ESPN hitpiece on Patriots (Rift with Brady/Belichick/Kraft) - Merged

[AtomicDawg]

I mean look at this...would BB really take the time to say all this if he were forced to trade Garoppolo?

Wouldn’t it be more like “Best for the team...” "On to __________"?

 

[farn]

If BB ever decides to write a tell-all it is going to be insane...

 

[QuantumMechanic]

So why the emotional need for the article to be false? So what if it were true? What would be the skin off your nose if it actually were true?

Their past stuff about Deflategate, etc. I totally understand -- they were accusing the team of cheating.

But here they're (presumably) saying there's a significant rift between Brady and BB (and BB and Kraft?). Sure, unusual news for NE, but it's a dime-a-dozen thing in sports.

 

[AtomicDawg]

 

[RIpats88]

We'll find out if this is a hit piece or not, as soon as the seasons over, because if the trio is breaking up, we know Kraft & Brady aren't going anywhere. Honestly, I've been losing sleep over this exact scenario since the minute JG was traded because the only logical explanation for the trade was that Kraft forced BB to make it.

How big of a disaster would it be if BB leaves after Matty P & McDaniels depart? It'll be 1997 all over again...

Please tell me how you keep Jimmy without

A. Trading Tom Brady in the midst of an MVP season

B. Pay 45-50$million to one position.

that is the logical explanation right there. Jimmy wanted to play and they had to choose between the two. I still dont get how people think we were keeping both. Logistically it didnt make sense once Jimmy turned down their bridge deal offer. They kept him this season to see how Brady looked, and once it looked like there was no decline they shipped Jimmy off.

 

[Froob]

If BB ever decides to write a tell-all it is going to be insane...

Looking forward to reading about how he warmed the Gatorade.

 

[Love The Drake]

At the end of the day I don't care.
Brady is the Goat as long as he plays 3 more seasons I don't care.
If we get eliminated from the playoffs due to poor Brady play then Brady retires.
Followed by watching Jimmy G holding up multiple Lombardi's would suggest would suck though.

 

[Kdo5]

Even if much of this is true, it's extremely difficult to believe Belichick is going to leave. It would be a stupid decision on his part. He would really want to go and try to start all over?

 

[farn]

Even if much of this is true, it's extremely difficult to believe Belichick is going to leave. It would be a stupid decision on his part. He would really want to go and try to start all over?

Devil’s advocate : he decides it is as good a time as any to walk away and be the captain of a boat named after rings won. (Don’t think he will leave because of this, but he COULD leave & not « start over »)

 

[AtomicDawg]

So why the emotional need for the article to be false? So what if it were true? What would be the skin off your nose if it actually were true?

Their past stuff about Deflategate, etc. I totally understand -- they were accusing the team of cheating.

But here they're (presumably) saying there's a significant rift between Brady and BB (and BB and Kraft?). Sure, unusual news for NE, but it's a dime-a-dozen thing in sports.

I don’t think people will be (or are) riled up about whether or not the story is “true” (some elements probably are) as much as the fact that ESPN is taking a pretty tame story and sensationalizing it in order to deliver their annual anti-Patriots propaganda just in time for the playoffs. Especially in wake of the numerous sexual assault allegations that have been unearthed about their workplace.

 

[Ring 6]

Unquestionably exaggerated, but they were going to be at a crossroads with Garropolo/Brady no matter what - and even if Jimmy winds up being THE next Brady, Brady has done enough for this organization to be able to run out his final years on HIS terms

That certainly flies in the face of Belichick making all "football" decisions but this transcends "football" and it seems plausible to me that Kraft may have asserted himself in backing Brady, who may have been insulted that despite playing at MVP level at age 40 was still having to fend off the young QB with "potential" in the wings

Long term was it the right decision? We shall see. But Kraft likely saw the fan reaction to benching Eli Manning and wanted to avoid such strife among the fan base and in the locker room

If you ask me that's an appropriate role for the owner, to look at the true "Big" picture beyond the Xs and Os of football.

My gut says Belichick might have wanted a few more years post Brady to show that he could win with another QB however - so yeah, he might retire sooner than later now - and I won't rule him out going to another team to show he can be a success with another team as well.

It's what Parcells always said - a good coach can take his and beat yours, but a truly great coach can take yours and beat his! Belichick may want to prove that.

Still the right call by Kraft - the GOAT gets to finish his career with the Patriots - period.

Why would anyone assume that kraft would have to inform belichick that he had the best QB in the NFL and he is about to lose the backup to free agency so he should tajebehat he can get in a trade?
Do we think kraft made all of the other smart decisions for belichick?

 

[sportnik]

Please tell me how you keep Jimmy without

A. Trading Tom Brady in the midst of an MVP season

B. Pay 45-50$million to one position.

that is the logical explanation right there. Jimmy wanted to play and they had to choose between the two. I still dont get how people think we were keeping both. Logistically it didnt make sense once Jimmy turned down their bridge deal offer. They kept him this season to see how Brady looked, and once it looked like there was no decline they shipped Jimmy off.

Given BB's track record, there's no doubt in my mind that BB was planning on option A & that if he got Kraft's support, the Patriot dynasty would have run another 10 years and Tom Brady's teenage fangirls would have completely gotten over it within two years.

 

[Uncle Rico]

So why the emotional need for the article to be false? So what if it were true? What would be the skin off your nose if it actually were true?

Their past stuff about Deflategate, etc. I totally understand -- they were accusing the team of cheating.

But here they're (presumably) saying there's a significant rift between Brady and BB (and BB and Kraft?). Sure, unusual news for NE, but it's a dime-a-dozen thing in sports.

Yup. Soap opera Crap for pink hat ‘Good Morning Football’ fans who are desperate for any sign of the Patriots’ imminent demise.

Meanwhile there will be four big playoff games this weekend and, as always, all anyone will want to talk about will be the Patriots.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

I know right? All the Patriots beat writers that pry inside information out piece by piece every single day... and I’m to believe that ESPN... public enemy #1 to the most tight lipped franchise in sports history...somehow, some way has top secret credible information? Give me a damn break.

and its always conveniently released when the Patriots are in a playoff run or about to play in the Super Bowl

They probably plan on hammering this story the entire off-season to keep their ratings up during the dreaded NFL Blackout period... Deflategate had the NFL, ESPN and everyone else in the news cycle 24/7.. from the build up to the Superbowl, through the entire off-season, training camp and into the regular season

I feel like I live in a fantasy world sometimes.. these pieces are just so obvious, TMZ level ******** and they just recycle the same methods/tactics every single time... like the walking dead plotline...

People saying "should be a fascinating article" lolol.. are you ****ing serious? Anyone who thinks that will be or is a fascinating article must be one of the dumbest carbon lifeforms on planet earth

When I first read the tweet, I thought it was supposed to be sarcastic, sort of like theonion.com.. then I quickly realized that he was 100% serious and all the media slugs are peeing their panties over the thought of being able to open that hole in their face and make noises about the Patriots to get attention/ratings.. as if the media slugs worthless existence has any meaning or value whatsoever... Hint: They dont.



Its just getting so old.. its so crazy that this is the norm now, and its because the drooling masses eat it up by the gallon.. which makes it that much more frustrating that these CLOWNS are actually getting people's attention and making lots of money doing it.

Total twilight zone level stuff at play here.. dont worry ESPN, Brady's fame and publicity will keep your **** hole company afloat for 1 more off-season

 

[farn]

Why would anyone assume that kraft would have to inform belichick that he had the best QB in the NFL and he is about to lose the backup to free agency so he should tajebehat he can get in a trade?
Do we think kraft made all of the other smart decisions for belichick?

While I don’t believe this to be the truth, one could argue that BB felt it was time to go with Jimmy in 2018 and that trading Brady to a team that thinks they are one piece away would bring back the haul of a lifetime.

Again, I don’t personally think that scenario is true, but it isn’t as far fetched as some theories.

 

[JJC]

 

[Ring 6]

We'll find out if this is a hit piece or not, as soon as the seasons over, because if the trio is breaking up, we know Kraft & Brady aren't going anywhere. Honestly, I've been losing sleep over this exact scenario since the minute JG was traded because the only logical explanation for the trade was that Kraft forced BB to make it.

How big of a disaster would it be if BB leaves after Matty P & McDaniels depart? It'll be 1997 all over again...

How do you get kraft ordering it is a logical explanation?
B.B. kept the 40 years olds backup, who he liked, as long as he could, right up to the trading deadline. Then since he was going to be a FA and wouldn’t stay as a backup he traded him to get as much as he could. There is no conspiracy at work here

 

[gronksmash]

Are you kidding me? My hit piece on how much ESPN blows was supposed to drop tomorrow too. Well this is awkward..

But for real, as has been discussed ad nauseam, I can guarantee there have been many disagreements between three perfectionists like BB, Brady and Kraft. Is this one a little more serious? Sure. But BB and Brady care about one thing...winning. And I can't see something like this getting in the way of winning another Super Bowl. If the hit piece is that Brady banged BB's girlfriend? Okay that might change things...

 

[Ring 6]

While I don’t believe this to be the truth, one could argue that BB felt it was time to go with Jimmy in 2018 and that trading Brady to a team that thinks they are one piece away would bring back the haul of a lifetime.

Again, I don’t personally think that scenario is true, but it isn’t as far fetched as some theories.

It’s ridiculous. You don’t trade the GOAT playing at an MVP level to turn your team over to an unproven hopeful.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Hell, Jimmy wanted to be dealt - he wanted to play.

Garoppolo reached the point where he agreed with Milton: "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven."

Of course, Garoppolo is turning that Hell into his own Heaven.