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I have no clue. Seems like the dorks at PFF see a pressure as something derived from a standard rush.

www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-the-importance-of-pressure-its-not-all-about-sacks

Here is another one

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Quarterbacks and Pressure, 2016

When I Google QB hurry it says it is when the rusher forces the QB to "hurry" their throw.

www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/defensive-hurries/2016/
But those stats are from Espn so only espns definition would matter in this case. (Of course Espn may have gotten the stats from pff or eksrwhere)
 
But those stats are from Espn so only espns definition would matter in this case. (Of course Espn may have gotten the stats from pff or eksrwhere)

Yep. Its all I could find....
 
Yep. Its all I could find....

I just threw away some time on it too. It's surprisingly hard to find stats on % blitzes, % QB hurries, etc.

Speaking of percentages, when we look at the raw number of QB hits/sacks the Patriots OL allows, we should keep in mind that they play far more downs than any other offense in the league. NE is averaging an impressive 25.0 first downs per game -- the next best is New Orleans at 21.7.
 
I have no clue. Seems like the dorks at PFF see a pressure as something derived from a standard rush.

www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-the-importance-of-pressure-its-not-all-about-sacks

Here is another one

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Quarterbacks and Pressure, 2016

When I Google QB hurry it says it is when the rusher forces the QB to "hurry" their throw.

www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/defensive-hurries/2016/

First of all, thanks for the links! Great stuff there!

I'm thinking that maybe "Pressure" is more a measure of the resources/effort a defense is expending on attacking the QB on a given play. "Hurry" is maybe more properly a measure of the QB's reaction to Pressure. I mean, if the defense is rushing five or blitzing (pressure), but the QB doesn't react to it negatively, is it a "hurry"?

Also, it seems to me that a sack is maybe more or less a "hurry" that got home. So, "hurries" + "Sacks" is then maybe a measure of effective pass-rush pressure.

Also, this is not a thing for which having an "elite" sack-getter is necessarily helpful.

In analyzing the hurries/sacks of individuals and teams from 2016 (you third link), I found a very strong correlation between (A) the number of different players on a team who recorded hurries and (B) the team total hurries. I also found a somewhat weaker correlation with team sack totals, AND fairly little correlation between effective pressure totals and "elite" sack-getters.

Teams in the Top 1/3 of the league in total hurries (90+) averaged ...
... 7+ different players who recorded hurries (Pats had 7)
... 4+ different players with double-digit hurries (Pats had 5)
... 37 sacks & 98 hurries (Pats had 34 sacks & 94 hurries - in the Top-8)
Less than half these teams had an individual player with more than 9 sacks (the Pats were among the majority of those who didn't), and only 4 of the league's top-12 sack-getters were on these teams.

Teams in the Bottom 1/3 of the league in total hurries (<74) averaged ...
... only 5 different players who recorded hurries
... <3 different players with double-digit hurries
... 31 sacks & 57 hurries

Pass-rush schemes and effectiveness of the various secondaries are the variables, then.
 
Are Malcolm Mitchell and Vincent Valentine practicing?? Isn't it time for us to use the last IR designation??
 
Are Malcolm Mitchell and Vincent Valentine practicing?? Isn't it time for us to use the last IR designation??

From what I've read from Reiss, both guys have been around the facility on a regular basis rehabbing and working out.

Sometime in mid-October (around the time McClellin was designated and began practicing with the team), Reiss' opinion was that Valentine was much closer to being able to return than Mitchell, health-wise. He also reported 3-4 weeks ago that Mitchell had just then started running again - straight line, no cuts. Mitchell may be doing some cuts by now, though.

Again, there's no requirement for either of them to practice with the team (on the roster exemption) before being activated to the 53-man roster. AFAIK, one of them can be activated any time up thru the week before the final game. The Pats may simply be waiting until they're sure which one is most ready and most needed.
 


Pretty amazing given the casualty list from the Miami game. Every player but Ebner practiced, if limited, starting Wednesday so presumably have a fair shot at playing.

It sucks that Ebner is done but other than that I feel like a bullet was dodged in terms of the significant potential of games missed that it seemed like Sunday.
 
Are Malcolm Mitchell and Vincent Valentine practicing?? Isn't it time for us to use the last IR designation??

I think we have until week 17 to make the decision.

I should include the fact that credit goes to @TheBostonStraggler for tracking down this info, as I don’t mean to sound like I ever knew in the first place. I was actually under the impression that we had to make a decision fairly quickly in a small window like in past years.
 
At least waddle has a chance to play...
 
considering what happened with the mclellan makes sense to wait until you are absolutely sure mitchell or valentine can actually play

great to see brady/amendola off the report. also good to see waddle practicing even if limited. hopefully he can play this week.
 


Cannon has been on the injury report for his ankle for 10 out of the 12 practice weeks so far. He missed wk-3 and has now missed four more in a row. Must be pretty messed up. High-ankle sprain?

Hogan was injured back in wk-8, so he's now had the BYE plus four game-weeks of a "4-6 week" recovery. Reports are that he's been out of the sling for two weeks now.

This Rowe's 4th consecutive week of being "limited" but practicing (after four weeks of "DNP"). I guess he's likely pretty close to a return by now.

Slater was "limited" last week (and kept OUT) and limited again this week, so he might be active for Sunday. He's been on the report with this hamstring nine times (which started during Camp), and he's missed 6 games. Even when active, he's been averaging only about 12 ST snaps per game - down from 17/game last season, which was down from 20/game in 2015. [Slater turns 33 next September 9th.]

I think they'll be okay with Fleming at RT (with help), but they're down to Croston if he gets injured. Waddle was in a waddling boot until yesterday's walkthru, so I'm thinking he probably sits. OTOH, if he's close, maybe he's active but on the bench unless there's an emergency with Fleming. If Andrews is back, that would allow them to deactivate Karras and keep Croston active.

Reilly (concussion) may be a game-time decision, since he wasn't taking contact today.

Marquis Flowers came back in and finished the game last week, IIRC, so he may be good.

Van Noy & Trey Flowers being "questionable" is scary, though.
 
considering what happened with the mclellan makes sense to wait until you are absolutely sure mitchell or valentine can actually play

great to see brady/amendola off the report. also good to see waddle practicing even if limited. hopefully he can play this week.

McClellin practiced with the team for almost the full three weeks on his roster exemption. It was only the day before he needed to be reactivated that he was injured or re-injured. I seriously doubt that the Pats would have had him even start practicing if they hadn't been absolutely certain he could play. I think it was a case of s**t happens.
 
McCoy is half their offense. I'm more worried about him.

Yeah, Benjamin hasn't really done much for them yet this season, anyway.

Tolbert, their 3rd-leading rusher behind McCoy and Taylor is OUT (hammy).

TE Clay and WR Matthews, their #2 and #3 pass-catchers (behind McCoy), are both Questionable with knee injuries, although Zay Jones, Nick O'Leary (TE) and Deonte Thompson have been as productive as Matthews.
 
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