Brady: My medical (concussion) history isn't anyone's business

[PatriotsReign]

I think he's right.
He knows there's no way to know for certain, (or prove) one is concussed while playing in the middle of a game.

All players know getting your bell rung is part of the game. Geez, these guys will run into brick wall to get a TD!

Which is the reason I think Gomer was getting screwed by the media during the
HGH bullsheet.
Players are getting beat up bad. Steroids are part of the healing for all people.

I work in the Commercial Electrical construction industry, and it takes a toll on my body.
I had fluid taken out, and steroids put into my knee recently. And within minutes I felt no pain, after what was excruciating pain. To point I could barely walk.

My point is, it isn't anybody's business. And after all the league and the media put him through the last few years, he is saying "Take a hike you leaches".

And as a few posters have said, it's ultimately the leagues responsibility.
They made that claim themselves.

I played division 1 in high school. There were some very large psychos roaming those fields (played against Fred Smerlas) and I got my bell rung a few times.

Did I have any concussion? Maybe, maybe not. But I'd rather not discuss my past.

Seriously though, I may have had a concussion or 2 but nobody did anything about that stuff. We just showed up for practice on Monday

 

[patman52]

I bet you there is a team rule against deliberately hiding injuries - not to mention that I don't believe for a second Brady hid any of this from the team. Belichick knows exactly what went on.

I bet you there is not a team rule about hiding injuries. BB does not want to know about your problems, tell them to the doctor- they are the doctor's problem. It is in your best interest, If your play on the field is impacted, then you should let him know as it will affect his professional judgement of your performance. But he has said in the past he stays out of that.

Players all the time recount stories where they don't get treatment for injuries by the trainers, they just pick up supplies- Ice bags- bandages etc for just that purpose. Coaches say all the time you can't make the club from the tub.

 

[Jackson 2]

I played division 1 in high school. There were some very large psychos roaming those fields (played against Fred Smerlas) and I got my bell rung a few times.

Did I have any concussion? Maybe, maybe not. But I'd rather not discuss my past.

Seriously though, I may have had a concussion or 2 but nobody did anything about that stuff. We just showed up for practice on Monday

When I was a sophomore in high school, our team played a preseason practice game against Marlborough HS. They had a senior named Kenny Reynolds who later pitched in the major leagues. Anyway, he could really bring it and, of course, he beaned me with the first and only pitch he threw me. I had double vision and vomiting for about a day and severe headaches for a week. My treatment consisted of rest, ice packs and aspirin. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind I was severely concussed. That was decades ago and I still remember it as if in happened yesterday. That was one episode. I can't imagine what repeated incidents must be like.

 

[Simpelton]

Not sure why anyone would think there is anything wrong with Brady telling a reporter his medical history is none of his business.

Nothing wrong per se, but if he wanted to get the media to stop talking about him concealing concussions... that was definitely not the way to accomplish the goal. Just seems bizarre for a guy who's usually pretty media-savvy to play the media so poorly on this issue.

 

[patman52]

Nothing wrong per se, but if he wanted to get the media to stop talking about him concealing concussions... that was definitely not the way to accomplish the goal. Just seems bizarre for a guy who's usually pretty media-savvy to play the media so poorly on this issue.

So let the media talk about it, who cares. the fans don't, the player don't and the team don't neither does the league who already said months ago nothing was done wrong. There is nothing the team can do to stop the media from talking crap in order to get readers/hits whatever.

Sports radio has pretty much given up on criticizing BB as they lament on the air that the fans just say they believe in BB no matter what they try to stir up.

 

[1960Pats]

I played division 1 in high school. There were some very large psychos roaming those fields (played against Fred Smerlas) and I got my bell rung a few times.

Did I have any concussion? Maybe, maybe not. But I'd rather not discuss my past.

Seriously though, I may have had a concussion or 2 but nobody did anything about that stuff. We just showed up for practice on Monday

Since you played against Smerlas you were definitely hit by a large psycho. I've played in his golf tourney and he's monstrous. He's in great shape though.

As for Brady, as in all of his other interviews, he politely answered all questions and moved on. He's as amazing at doing interviews as he is at QBing. The mediots are no match for him.

 

[patfanken]

WTF - This entire thread is pretty much deja vu all over again. Didn't we have a huge multipage thread that talked about the same stuff already. It seems to me that the only new thing is whether the Pats "cheated" by not reporting the so called concussion? The answer seems pretty clear and unambiguous to me.

1. It is completely unclear whether Brady had a concussion or not. To date not a single mediot can point to a play where Brady seemed to have been concussed. Nor can this be backed up by any noticable disorientation in any of the many media spots Brady does during the week including the ones he has to do for the team during the week, plus the WEEI and Monday Night Football gigs he does on his own. While I bring up this point over and over again, it has been completely ignored in the discussion. BTW- The hardest I saw Brady hit this year was in the Superbowl

2. On th so called "rules": NONE of the myriad of professionals who watch Brady over the season ever came close to putting him in any concussion protocols. So CLEARLY no rule was broken, bent or gone around. IF Brady ever suffered any ramifications from a hit during last season, it wasn't bad enough to affect him to the point he even missed a practice or meeting.

3. So why hasn't he simply denied having a concussion? The answer here is easy, and anyone who is in a happy marriage (or not ) knows the answer. He isn't going to throw his wife under the bus.

To me what most likely happened was Brady came home after a game and said to is wife. "Babe I got a wicked headache, lets just stay in tonight". And that was it. Months later when she is on TV and the discussion turns to concussions. She remembers the headache and "concussiongate" is born.

BTW- I played football for 10 years and the only concussion I know I had was when I got hit by a car on my way to Hebrew school when I was about 11 or 12. The migraine headaches that I got from that point have stayed with me iight up to this time, though now I only get it about once a year....if that. Maybe we should not let people ride bikes because they MAY get a concussion.

BOTTOM LINE - This was a mildly interesting discussion when it happened back in March or April. It's a non-story now. The mediots are just looking for any kind of content, so they just recreated the story to fill time. Nothing to see here.

 

[borg]

On one hand....this forum ridicules the NFL and Goodell for their mishandling/lack of awareness/lack of proactivity/purposeful neglect of all things concussion related

On the other hand, this forum cheers Brady's position of 'mind your own business" when the concussion focal point is one of their own. Brady's response is eerily similar to Manning's HGH response.......a response that was completely rejected by his detractors.

Just saying.....

Yoko really put her man in an awkward position

 

[XLIX]

Do you think there was ever a point during his career when Brady took a big hit, was seeing stars and never told BB for fear he would take him out of the game?

I think all football players do that all the time.

Maybe he should tell BB and not Gisele. At least BB can keep his yap shut.

 

[Ring 6]

Nothing wrong per se, but if he wanted to get the media to stop talking about him concealing concussions... that was definitely not the way to accomplish the goal. Just seems bizarre for a guy who's usually pretty media-savvy to play the media so poorly on this issue.

I think it was the perfect answer.
They asked, he told them it's none of their business. End of story.

 

[Ring 6]

I think all football players do that all the time.

Maybe he should tell BB and not Gisele. At least BB can keep his yap shut.

Other than people on this board getting their drawers in a bunch there was absolutely zero consequence from her comments.

 

[XLIX]

Other than people on this board getting their drawers in a bunch there was absolutely zero consequence from her comments.

It became a media story which people are talking about when it should never have been a media story in the first place. She volunteered the info completely out of the blue when there was absolutely no reason to.

Tom Brady should not be answering questions about concussions in 2016 during the 2017 training camp.

 

[XLIX]

I think it was the perfect answer.
They asked, he told them it's none of their business. End of story.

He didn't say it was none of their business, he said it was none of *anyone's* business (besides family). The problem with his statement is that it's simply not true according to concussion protocol and the injury reporting rules of the NFL.

Given the league office's obsessive vendetta against all things Patriot, that wasn't the wisest way to handle it. He should simply have said "we are looking forward to 2017, not looking back to 2016." That would have been the perfect non-denial way to avoid the question.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Since you played against Smerlas you were definitely hit by a large psycho. I've played in his golf tourney and he's monstrous. He's in great shape though.

As for Brady, as in all of his other interviews, he politely answered all questions and moved on. He's as amazing at doing interviews as he is at QBing. The mediots are no match for him.

Ok, truth be told I was a sophomore when Smerlas was a senior. I only played on the kickoff and return teams that year. So it wasn't like I was lined up across from Fred.

I played in what was called "the Suburban League" which consisted of Weyoumouth North, Waltham, Brookline, Quincy & North Quincy, Newton, Brockton and Cambridge Latin

 

[RayClay]

Brady you usually smart person, way to give a denial that might as well be a confirmation. If he's never been concussed I doubt he'd weasel-word it the way he did. He's the kind of guy that if he'd never had problems in that area, he'd straight up say so.

So why the weasel words? Probably because he has been concussed and hasn't reported it either because he and the team felt it was too minor to report or because reporting would have meant Brady had to sit out which is a thing he goes out of his way to not do. Either way, if this little soundbite was supposed to shut off this line of quesitoning, that just backfired.

He said his history is nobodies business. How is that weasel words? Seems pretty direct and final.

The idea of being guilty unless you talk about every area of your life seems somewhat new and stupid.

That's called a fishing expedition.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

The problem with his statement is that it's simply not true according to concussion protocol and the injury reporting rules of the NFL.

You keep saying this and it remains completely untrue.

Show us, in the NFL's policy for concussion protocols, where it says that a PLAYER is required to report a possible concussion to the team, and that if the player doesn't do that, then he is in violation of a rule and he will be punished by the NFL

You cannot, because such a rule does not exist.

Players are under no obligation to report a concussion. It truly is none of anyone's business to ask the player to self-report, to anyone, at least according to the NFL rules. Teams and team doctors may well have policies of their own, but that has nothing to do with the rules of the NFL that you keep talking about.

Independent observers, team trainers, and maybe to some extent the refs are responsible for noticing the symptoms and initiating the protocol, by the NFL's specific, written, and unambiguous guidelines.

The player is neither required nor expected to initiate concussion protocol.

 

[1960Pats]

Ok, truth be told I was a sophomore when Smerlas was a senior. I only played on the kickoff and return teams that year. So it wasn't like I was lined up across from Fred.

I played in what was called "the Suburban League" which consisted of Weyoumouth North, Waltham, Brookline, Quincy & North Quincy, Newton, Brockton and Cambridge Latin

You were lucky. He's a very large man.

 

[1960Pats]

Doesn't Brady have his own doctor that he sees?

 

[Ring 6]

It became a media story which people are talking about when it should never have been a media story in the first place. She volunteered the info completely out of the blue when there was absolutely no reason to.

Tom Brady should not be answering questions about concussions in 2016 during the 2017 training camp.

And 'becoming a media story' is not a consequence. It is meaningless.

 

[Ring 6]

He didn't say it was none of their business, he said it was none of *anyone's* business (besides family). The problem with his statement is that it's simply not true according to concussion protocol and the injury reporting rules of the NFL.

So this is about parsing words? Their is no requirement that he report anything.

Given the league office's obsessive vendetta against all things Patriot, that wasn't the wisest way to handle it. He should simply have said "we are looking forward to 2017, not looking back to 2016." That would have been the perfect non-denial way to avoid the question.

No, he should have said what he said, because he is the guy who was asked the question and he can answer it how he sees fit, and there was nothing wrong with his answer. Perhaps he wasn't avoiding the question, perhaps he really wanted to communicate that it is no ones business. Are you seriously saying you know how to answer for Tom Brady better than Tom Brady does?