Brady speaks

[Joker]

Me and my wife made an agreement to smoke a cigarette after sex....I have the same stale pack since 2001....she's up to 3 packs a day...something's fishy

 

[XLIX]

I'm hardly putting words in your mouth.

Well then you need to take a course in logical reasoning. The question you asked was:

"do you really expect Brady to come out and announce his actual retirement plans and date/age?"

Saying no, I "don't expect something" hardly equates to "you, yourself, think Brady has been less than honest when he's said in the past that he plans to play until 45." Saying he intends to play until at least age 45 hardly equates to "announcing his actual retirement plans."

Take a course in logic to understand how your deductions of what I said are epic fail.

 

[Kontradiction]

Well then you need to take a course in logical reasoning. The question you asked was:

"do you really expect Brady to come out and announce his actual retirement plans and date/age?"

Saying no, I "don't expect something" hardly equates to "you, yourself, think Brady has been less than honest when he's said in the past that he plans to play until 45." Saying he intends to play until at least age 45 hardly equates to "announcing his actual retirement plans."

Take a course in logic to understand how your deductions of what I said are epic fail.

I have taken multiple courses in the area which is probably why it's very easy for me to understand where you're having a total failure in applying it. This isn't that hard. I'll even number them in order to help you...

1. Brady says he plans to play until 45. Therefore, he plans to retire at that age.

2. You answer my question in the negative, that you don't believe he'll tell us before he truly plans to retire.

Therefore...

3. You are saying yourself that you believe Brady has been dishonest when he's given that age as the retirement age in the past.

It's really not that big of a deal. Brady himself is leaving a LOT of wiggle room for that age if the presser in the OP is to be believed. The Intro to Critical Thinking is still recommended. I'm also very happy to see that you're still butthurt over that throwaway line and that I hurt your feelings with it.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Holy f**** why don't we just sit back and wait and see what happens? It's not like all this stress we're putting ourselves through trying to read the tea leaves of sentence or two is going change anything. It is what it is or in this case what ever happens, happens.

 

[Kontradiction]

Holy f**** why don't we just sit back and wait and see what happens? It's not like all this stress we're putting ourselves through trying to read the tea leaves of sentence or two is going change anything. It is what it is or in this case what ever happens, happens.

That's what I'm doing. I've always been of the opinion that none of us will have any idea of when he's going to hang them up because he'll never say it up front. The team and their press conferences have always been all about relative amounts of subterfuge and that includes Brady. He could retire at 45, he could retire at 49, he could retire at the end of 2017. We don't know. That's why this is ultimately a pointless exercise in futility.

 

[Clonamery]

Holy f**** why don't we just sit back and wait and see what happens? It's not like all this stress we're putting ourselves through trying to read the tea leaves of sentence or two is going change anything. It is what it is or in this case what ever happens, happens.

Well, since Brady speaks I'd like some clarification on the whole "Holy ****" scenario. Is that different than say "Kosher ****" or "Agnostic ****" etc? Or is it conjured because you believe Brady walks on water? And since we are there with the "Holy" exclamatory, what about "Holy ****?"

By the way, I agree that whatever happens, happens (unless of course, a certain obsessive political tweeter says "it never happens" at which point, good luck dealing with that happenstance of ne'er do reality).

 

[PatsWSB47]

Ha, Exactly. You get it.
.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

That's what I'm doing. I've always been of the opinion that none of us will have any idea of when he's going to hang them up because he'll never say it up front. The team and their press conferences have always been all about relative amounts of subterfuge and that includes Brady. He could retire at 45, he could retire at 49, he could retire at the end of 2017. We don't know. That's why this is ultimately a pointless exercise in futility.

Since I find myself agreeing with you far more often than is comfortable in the football column, I will take this occasion to obnoxiously ask you what other kind of "exercise in futility" there is other than a pointless one. A fruitful exercise in futility?

I thought you might think something's up if you just got the green check mark. Carry on.

 

[Simpelton]

I'd say there's an exercise in futility that happens because you try something that would have been worthwhile if it were possible but it's not, and then there's a pointless exercise in futility, where even if what you were trying to achieve had been possible it would still have accomplished nothing at all.

 

[Kontradiction]

So does that make DISRESPECKING BRADY a worthwhile exercise in futility?

 

[Simpelton]

If it gets a rise out of AndyJohnson and Ivan and keeps the forum busy in the offseason, maybe it is.

 

[Jackson 2]

Anyone else just watch the segment on BST with Curran, Holley and Giles about Brady and concussion history? Interesting and revealing. According to Holley and Curran, it's certainly more substantial than I ever realized.

 

[supafly]

Anyone else just watch the segment on BST with Curran, Holley and Giles about Brady and concussion history? Interesting and revealing. According to Holley and Curran, it's certainly more substantial than I ever realized.

I'd be interested in watching if you happen to come across a link. I wonder how it would compare to the majority of other NFL QB's? I'd have to imagine that guys like Favre, Young, etc have had multiple concussions, as well, but I obviously don't know that for a fact.

 

[Jackson 2]

I'd be interested in watching if you happen to come across a link. I wonder how it would compare to the majority of other NFL QB's? I'd have to imagine that guys like Favre, Young, etc have had multiple concussions, as well, but I obviously don't know that for a fact.

I'll let you know if I see it. CSNNE runs a very early morning (5-6 am) highlights hour each morning of the prior night's show. They didn't focus on a particular number of episodes, but they spoke of some specific games where it was pretty clear, at least to them, that he likely suffered a concussion. I found it particularly interesting that Curran said he covered an event on athletic concussions at Boston University (where a very large part of the research has been, and continues to be, done) and Brady's father was there and told Curran he was there due to specific concerns about his son's concussion history.

 

[Joker]

HEADTRAUMAGATE!!!! Goondell will now suspend Brady for the next decade to uphold "integrity of the cranium!!!". Meanwhile, I'll be looking to smash a Louisville Slugger full force in Rog's ol' smarmy grinning cokksucker.....take me out to the ball game,
Buy me some snapjacks and billy clubs
I don't care if they're oaken stubs
Let me smash,smash, smash
on Goodell's skull
If he still breathes it's a shame
Aahh.
For it's one,
Two,
Three strikes you're out
At the ol' smash Roger game

 

[XLIX]

I have taken multiple courses in the area which is probably why it's very easy for me to understand where you're having a total failure in applying it. This isn't that hard. I'll even number them in order to help you...

1. Brady says he plans to play until 45. Therefore, he plans to retire at that age.

That's one of the places where your fundamental logical skills are lacking.

2. You answer my question in the negative, that you don't believe he'll tell us before he truly plans to retire.

Again, you're putting words in my mouth.

Therefore....

The only way you can continue this is to lie about what I said and make up things Brady never said. Which you usually do. You cannot debate what someone actually said so you make things up and respond to what you're pretending they said.

And now that I am calling you out, you're responding like the butthurt little ****y you are. Oh well, we've come to expect that from you. Sorry that I'm hurting your feelings and you can't do a damn thing about it (except put more words in my mouth).

 

[Huckleberry1]

I choose to believe what comes out of a woman's mouth; not what her Husband says she feels when the possible answer could disrupt the team and create doubt that Brady is there for the next few seasons.

I still go by my original thoughts we are in uncharted waters with Brady playing like the GOAT at his age.

Let's see this season, as the possible hits and fatigue set in and then when next offseason starts; what the Team does in context with possibly extending Brady or extending, trading, Franchising, or letting Jimmy walk.

Actions speak much louder than words.

You also choose to completely ignore what comes out of Brady s mouth as well as he actions. He says he wants to keep playing into his mid forties and works his ass off year round every year to be able to do just that. You also ignore his play, which keeps getting better each season. And you also ignore his durability, as Brady endured a hit from Kam Chancellor that would have ended most player's seasons, whereas Garrapolo couldn't make it through one hit and two games when was needed for four. Basically you ignore everything and anything that doesn't line up with your desire to see the Patriots dump Brady for Garrapolo.

 

[Ring 6]

You're constructing a straw man here. And a very flimsy one at that. Where did I say he's retiring? What I said was this was nothing more than a political statement in which he in no way made any guarantees about playing until 45 (although you seem to be taking it that way) and also left himself quite a bit of wiggle room in the process. As Deus said, he said nothing. I'll ask you again: do you really expect the guy to tell the world when he ACTUALLY plans to retire?

If I'm not mistaken you have made posts in other threads conjecturing he may retire after this year. If that's not what you are saying, what exactly are you saying.

Yes I take Brady 100% at his word that he intends as if now to try to play into his mid 40s. I'm not sure why (trading forward) you seem to think there are 2 choices
1) he has decided the exact date of his retirement or
2) he is being dishonest

this of course is wrong.
If you ask a player who is not ready to retire, when they think they will retire all they can give you is how long they would like to play or how long they think they can. There is no dishonesty involved.

What we have learned from his comments is that as of today he WOULD LIKE to play until his mid 40s, contrary to the hysteria on this board his wife supports him playing as long as he wants to, and as anyone with a brain recognizes due to injury, health and potential decline in ability this is merely an estimate that is a moving target.

 

[Ring 6]

I'm hardly putting words in your mouth. You answered my question in the resounding negative. That means that you, yourself, think Brady has been less than honest when he's said in the past that he plans to play until 45. He himself, at that point, was effectively giving the world a retirement date. He's now almost begun to walk that back as even in the quote he doesn't sound as sure anymore. And no, this is not a man that will announce his retirement before it happens. The team will know it and his family will know it. We will have no idea.

This is where you get crazy.

This is your logic.
I would like to play into my mid 40s is far from announcing a retirement date to the world.
It's answering a question honestly.
You double down here by saying since your opinion is he wouldn't announce a retirement date (which supposedly was because he didn't want a retirement tour and I don't know how you plan one for his "mid 40s) he therefore is dishonest because your opinion of what he would do makes what he does do dishonest. That's crazy talk.

 

[Love The Drake]

You also choose to completely ignore what comes out of Brady s mouth as well as he actions. He says he wants to keep playing into his mid forties and works his ass off year round every year to be able to do just that. You also ignore his play, which keeps getting better each season. And you also ignore his durability, as Brady endured a hit from Kam Chancellor that would have ended most player's seasons, whereas Garrapolo couldn't make it through one hit and two games when was needed for four. Basically you ignore everything and anything that doesn't line up with your desire to see the Patriots dump Brady for Garrapolo.

Not true my comment was we don't know it is uncharted waters with Brady.
It's uncharted waters with Grap at the end of the day BB will make the decision that is best for the football team.
Not what is best for Tom or Jimmy.