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Kinda funny that the jets, the team with the worst cap space and the most holes in their roster of the teams left courting Hightower, are offering him the most money

Every time I start to think that
sad-ass franchise might finally be getting smarter, they go and prove me wrong
 
No snow near Pitt? I got royally f***ed with snow here in Scranton. 2+ feet.
No, man. None whatsoever. Well, I mean, you can see a change of color to white on the lawn, but I really wouldn't even consider it "a dusting." Just windy.
 
That's how you talk about a player who has given his all, behaved, and made big plays (one of which was with a torn shoulder labrum) to help win 2 super bowls?

I want him back in the worse way but idk how much bill will be willing to budge when it comes to the offer on the table. I can understand if the other team's where giving him way more but i don't think it's not as far off as the contract the pats probably have in hand.
 
Wow. I knew you weren't really a Pats fan but wtf?
Was a fan before you were born most likely.

At some point the pats have to move on. Other free agents will be gone soon.
 
Kinda funny that the jets, the team with the worst cap space and the most holes in their roster of the teams left courting Hightower, are offering him the most money

Every time I start to think that
sad-ass franchise might finally be getting snarter, they go and prove me wrong
Reminds me of that thread on the Jets board that is apparently now deleted. Some guy wanted the Jets to sign all of the Pats practice squad players, found this old quote from someone in that thread:

so the master plan to bring the Pats to their knees is by signing players that they don't want anymore?

Its unorthodox I'll give you that.

Do you think it's a good idea for me to eat out of my neighbor's trash can and then tell him to pay me money or else I'll keep eating his garbage?
 
add a few mil to the deal, bill!!

shea, van noy, and elandon roberts. so shaky..
 
Would bill be willing to give him 11 million instead of 10?
 
Dude is about to sign a 10m + contract that will set him and his family up for the rest of their lives and possibly move them to another city for the next 3-5 years.. there is no rush to get something done so that Pats fans can have piece of mind. He's doing the right thing and hopefully enjoys winning enough to come back to NE, even if it's not the highest offer.
 
add a few mil to the deal, bill!!

shea, van noy, and elandon roberts. so shaky..

That's very scary. Maybe there could be a good linebacker at number 32 if we get that pick back but he will be a rookie. I like levy but he hasn't been healthy the last two years and brown idk.
 
Would bill be willing to give him 11 million instead of 10?

If no one else is offering $10million, no.

And the Jets don't count. There's no way Belichick should scramble and panic because the Jets are willing to overpay.
 
Dude is about to sign a 10m + contract that will set him and his family up for the rest of their lives and possibly move them to another city for the next 3-5 years.. there is no rush to get something done so that Pats fans can have piece of mind. He's doing the right thing and hopefully enjoys winning enough to come back to NE, even if it's not the highest offer.

The problem here's that he ain't getting an offer over 12 million. Tbe jests have been the team to offer 12 million i believe.
 
I'm quite sure he wants $2M more per year, not over the course of five seasons. By all accounts, he wants $12M annually and is seeing offers closer to $10M. It's important for teams to have a line they've drawn that they will not cross, because at that point it's a bad deal. Maybe the Patriots' number is somewhere over their initial offer, but they will not cross their line, even if it is by $5. All of the the player's potential risk:reward is built into that number, including the player's locker room presence, knack for big plays, fit in their system, etc. So, the Patriots have a number, below which is considered a positive value transaction and above which is considered a negative value transaction. They've let many players walk because they wouldn't go up just a little more, such as a million or two per year.

The Jets have apparently offered him "far and away" the most money, according to that La Confora article a few posts above. The on-field product speaks for itself between these two franchises. I guess they didn't learn from the Darrelle Revis fiasco that you don't go all-in at all costs in order to land a big-named player because instead of weakening your rival, you yourself will be weaker against them. The even better part is Hightower will be misused with the Jets, so it makes their offer even dumber. Then again, they are the dumbest organization in the league.
You are worried about $2 million?

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2017 New England Patriots
Base Salary
Amendola - $6 million
Gronkowski - $4.25 million
Edelman - $3 million
Allen - $2.5 million
Hogan - $2.5 million
 
There kind of is a rush to get something done. Thats why these contracts happen fast usually. Because if he signs elsewhere the pats have to move on to contingency plans.

I'd have more respect for him if he just signed with the jets or browns for the money and got it over with. Then the pats can move on. Zach brown will be gone soon. So will other players.

How do other FAs sign so quickly, ever think of that? No, too busy being sanctimonious.
 
There kind of is a rush to get something done. Thats why these contracts happen fast usually. Because if he signs elsewhere the pats have to move on to contingency plans.

I'd have more respect for him if he just signed with the jets or browns for the money and got it over with. Then the pats can move on. Zach brown will be gone soon. So will other players.

How do other FAs sign so quickly, ever think of that? No, too busy being sanctimonious.

Maybe they told him to find a better contract offer somewhere and then they'd decide. That would seem to fit the narrative.
 
That's how you talk about a player who has given his all, behaved, and made big plays (one of which was with a torn shoulder labrum) to help win 2 super bowls?
While I in no way share Kenny's viewpoint at all, I will admit to being a bit exasperated at this point. He is certainly welcomed to keep testing the market, but I don't see anyone resetting the market for him at this point... and part of me suspects that's what this is all about. I think he's disappointed, and maybe rightfully so, that he's not getting the kind of huge offers that everyone expected.

I want him back very badly and I think that's why I've gotten so frustrated. I'm going to feel uneasy as long as he remains unsigned. Our chances of repeating will improve by leaps and bounds once he signs the dotted line. But even if he does ultimately decide to walk, I will always appreciate him for his consistent play, leadership and Super Bowl changing plays. He was a great draft pick.

Interestingly, both he and Gronk were both so close to being Rats. Wow. Thanks BB and Caserio!
 
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While I in no way share Kenny's viewpoint at all, I will admit to being a bit exasperated at this point. He is certainly welcomed to keep testing the market, but I don't see anyone resetting the market for him at this point... and part of me suspects that's what this is all about. I think he's disappointed, and maybe rightfully so, that he's not getting the mind of huge offers that everyone expected.

I want him back very badly and I think that's why I've gotten so frustrated. I'm going to feel uneasy as long as he remains unsigned. Our chances of repeating will improve by leaps and bounds once he signs the dotted line. But even if he does ultimately decide to walk, I will always appreciate him for his consistent play, leadership and Super Bowl changing plays. He was a great draft pick.

Interestingly, both he and Gronk were both so close to being Rats. Wow. Thanks BB and Caserio!
Didn't Baltimore want Hightower pretty badly too in the draft?
 
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