Felger: 2016 Patriots not an "all-time Pats team", just winning during a "bad year for league"

[PlanB]

one could make the argument that the only reason The Sports Hub is the ratings leader is that WEEI sucks

 

[Danger Zone]

... Why does this guy rip the Pats constantly? Is he like this on all Boston teams? Must be trying to get ratings...

I'm positive 60% of it is a gimmick -a schtick to get ratings.

Don't ask me why negativity sells, but it does.

That said, Felger also seems like he is a contrarian at heart and one of those guys that always has to be the smartest guy in the room.

And based on people I've known with similar personalities to his, being the smartest guy in the room equates to the act of being a contrarian for no more better reason than you are in the minority and the majority (whatever that is) is stupid by default.

 

[XLIX]

I hate to admit it, but Felger is kinda right. This year, the NFL has sucked in terms of quality. I don't think this team is as good as some of the past teams that have made it to the Super Bowl.

This is the sort of thing I see regularly, but no one ever provides any actual evidence to support the statement - not to mention that there's no real agreement or definition of what it means to say the league "sucked in terms of quality."

So what makes you say the above? (Please give something more substantial than just a modified version of the "eye test")

 

[PatsBoy12]

I'm positive 60% of it is a gimmick -a schtick to get ratings.

Don't ask me why negativity sells, but it does.

That said, Felger also seems like he is a contrarian at heart and one of those guys that always has to be the smartest guy in the room.

And based on people I've known with similar personalities to Felgers, being the smartest guy in the room means, being a contrarian...

...because like a lot of that ilk, they falsely equate being a contrarian with being smarter than everybody else.

I have two friends of mine like this and it's made me want to hang out with them less. Talking to them starts to feel like work because everything, even simple things, becomes a debate. It's so annoying.

 

[XLIX]

I'm positive 60% of it is a gimmick and a schtick to get ratings.

Don't ask me why negativity sells, but it does.

Here's why it works:

For these talentless mediots, there's no such thing as bad publicity. It is far, far better to have people talking about you than ignore you - even if they're talking about what an idiot you are.

This thread is proof. Felger makes a stupid statement so someone comes in here to start a thread which is essentially "hey, everyone, look at what that moron Felger said!!!" And that's the exact reaction he wants.

It is a great way for people with no talent to get attention and a great way to have a successful career in the modern day sports-talk industry.

 

[EddardSnow67]

Another media guy I would punch in the face as soon as I got close enough to do so.

 

[The Brandon Five]

One can make the argument that the on-air talent in Boston is just there because the available pool sucks so bad.

 

[yukon cornelius]

Boston fans, despite the drunken, ex-frat boy type reputation, tend to be well educated sport fans......to succeed in this market, one has to either be also intelligent and put their time in and actually have a legit clue.....or one has to be Felger, or any of the Felger-like loud mouthed mediots we have

unfortunately the mediots outnumber the good by a large, large margin



even the big jab here in maine, last i checked in, were headed down this same road

 

[BobDigital]

What qualifies you to be one of the greatest patriots teams of all time? Do you need to be top 2? top 3? top 5? top 10?

Right now the only super bowl winning team i think is worse than this one in 01'. The only non-superbowl teams I'd take over it is probably 07.

So that would make this imo a top 5 Patriots team. I would qualify that as one of the greatest of all time. Doesn't mean the NFL is not having a down year but it doesn't take away from this team.

 

[scott99]

He's the Stephen A Smiff of Boston. He probably said the same thing in 2003, a lot of people were dissing Carolina that year as not such a good team.

 

[Deus Irae]

Patriots not an "all-time Pats team", just winning during a "bad year for league"

Sounds right, with 01, 03, 04, 07 and 14 being better teams. So what?

 

[nabwong]

Wait, does that make the collective us the girl?

It's a family site so I can't say. Let's just say it involves 53 men.

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

 

[Minitron]

Bla, Bla, Bla... Without the Pats this turd wouldn't even have a job.

 

[AtomicDawg]

I don't get it. Why give this crap any attention? It's like listening to yourself while you slit your own wrists. Seriously. Change the channel or turn it off.

 

[mosey threetupu]

One of the advantages of living outside the metro Boston area is that I don't have to listen to the drivel of some of the media Mensa members....

Totally agree. I'm not 100% sure but I don't think I've ever heard or seen Felger.

 

[AzPatsFan]

The Redskins won the SB in 1987. Guess how many people remember that was the year of the strike? Not a whole lot.

Plus, I reject the ******** premise. If the Patriots beat the Falcons (and that's a big IF--they are a great team), it would be a huge feat. The NFC had great teams this year. The Cowboys, Packers, Seahawks, etc.. And the AFC, admittedly a lot weaker, had some strong teams (Texans, Chiefs, Steelers). Just because we made it look easy doesn't mean it was easy. It's because we are that good. The Seahawks game was a wake-up call, and we've run the table since then. We just did it without calling attention to ourselves like family-man Rodgers or walking-boot-berger.

He's a f'ing tomato can writer.

I do not accept the premise that the NFC had any great teams this season. The NFC was a conference of mediocracy, beating up each other. Led by a one sided, all Offense, team in Atlanta; and a team winning with a rookie QB and over-hyped, until exposed.

 

[neuronet]

I do not accept the premise that the NFC had any great teams this season. The NFC was a conference of mediocracy, beating up each other. Led by a one sided, all Offense, team in Atlanta; and a team winning with a rookie QB and over-hyped, until exposed.

Naw. Cowboys were legit and got caught off guard by the Packers but still almost won. Seattle was legit and beat us in Foxboro us when we still had Gronk (though admittedly he got injured during the game). Giants defense was playing really well in the second half of the season.

I agree Atlanta clearly stood up and took care of business, but they are standing high in a field that is higher than the AFC, and this SB will be a great challenge for the Patriots. Certainly bigger challenge than the Squealers.

 

[Rob0729]

This is the sort of thing I see regularly, but no one ever provides any actual evidence to support the statement - not to mention that there's no real agreement or definition of what it means to say the league "sucked in terms of quality."

So what makes you say the above? (Please give something more substantial than just a modified version of the "eye test")

Unfortunately, there is no real way to quantify it. The quality of play on the field has steadily gone down hill in the last few years. Even the top teams have major flaws other than maybe the defense. You can look at every team other Pats that made the playoffs and point to at least one major weakness they have. You can go down the list (Steelers defense is mediocre, Dallas had no defense, the Seahawk's o-line is awful, the Falcons' defense is mediocre, etc.). In past years, there would be at least two or three teams in the league without a major weakness.

Also, name all the good head coaches. If Bill Belichick retired, name the current head coaches you would want to replace him (or at least which coach you would consider a decent hire). I bet you can't name four or five current head coaches. Look at the two Conference Championship losing head coaches (Tomlin and McCarthy). Both are gloried cheerleaders with HOF caliber QBs. There is no coaching in this league. Most of the head coaches in this league, I wouldn't trust with my nephew's Pop Warner team.

Also, teams don't know how to tackle anymore. I blame the revised practice rules in the CBA for that.

If the Pats win, they are the best of the current crop and that is all that matters. But if you are comparing this team and the current league to historical teams and years, both are not up there.

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

Unfortunately, there is no real way to quantify it. The quality of play on the field has steadily gone down hill in the last few years. Even the top teams have major flaws other than maybe the defense. You can look at every team other Pats that made the playoffs and point to at least one major weakness they have. You can go down the list (Steelers defense is mediocre, Dallas had no defense, the Seahawk's o-line is awful, the Falcons' defense is mediocre, etc.). In past years, there would be at least two or three teams in the league without a major weakness.

Also, name all the good head coaches. If Bill Belichick retired, name the current head coaches you would want to replace him (or at least which coach you would consider a decent hire). I bet you can't name four or five current head coaches. There is no coaching in this league. Most of the head coaches in this league, I wouldn't trust with my nephew's Pop Warner team.

Also, teams don't know how to tackle anymore. I blame the revised practice rules in the CBA for that.

Good point on the tackling... Nowadays everyone is looking for the ZOMG BIG HIT SPORTSCENTER HIGHLIGHT and fundamentals have gone out the window for most players/teams... except for NE thank god.