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Game Day Thread Official Pre-season Gameday Thread. Bears @ Patriots (Week 2)

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Agreed, and the worst part (for Seattle) is that Unger wasn't even the worst part of that trade. Giving up the first rounder was worse.

One of the most remarkable things about Seattle's run these last few years is that they've accomplished it in spite of making a couple historically bad trades. What other team is still giving up first round picks--aka 5 cost-controlled years of premium talent--for players who are among the highest paid at their positions? Moves like that just ruin your cap structure, and the Seahawks have survived doing it twice with Harvin and Graham, all because they fill out the back of their roster so well.

I do think this will be the year things really start to fall apart, though.

Heres an interesting thing on Seattle that doesn't really have to do with your post. When they played Green Bay, they took the lead and then let Green Bay go right down the field and send the game to OT. Then against us they blew a 10 point 4th quarter lead. And they let Minnesota go right down the field on them too. That defense has absolutely collapsed late in games in the playoffs the last 2 years. Not the same defense it was. I wonder why.
 
But other teams recognize that about him too. Why should they hand over a premium draft pick for a guy who a) isn't that good, and b) is going to be a FA after this season anyway, where someone will probably overpay him. Players lose a lot of value when there's only a year left on their deal, because you're getting any intermediate or long term control over the asset you're trading for. For perspective, when we traded for Talib in a contract year, we got him for a 7th.
Good points. But I would even just take a 5th for him just to open the roster spot. I don't want to cut any of the promising young defenders to keep Ryan, who I expect to regress big-time this year.
 
Heres an interesting thing on Seattle that doesn't really have to do with your post. When they played Green Bay, they took the lead and then let Green Bay go right down the field and send the game to OT. Then against us they blew a 10 point 4th quarter lead. And they let Minnesota go right down the field on them too. That defense has absolutely collapsed late in games in the playoffs the last 2 years. Not the same defense it was. I wonder why.

Depth, I think. We saw something similar with the Pats after 2004. On one side, all these other teams are willing to pay a premium for guys like Browner, Thurmond, Maxwell, Bryant, etc. On the other side, your own young talent is aging out of their rookie contracts and commanding top-of-the-market deals. Next thing you know, it's no longer the case that when a strong rotational player goes down you have someone 85% as good available to step up.
 
It's a nice win when so many players played well, and the only injury was Brady and no none cares.
 
It's a nice win when so many players played well, and the only injury was Brady and no none cares.

Thankfully Brady wasn't on the field during that injury...we'd all be singing a different tune if so...
 
Kind of getting excited about Anthony Johnson. If he can come close to that level in the regular season he's gonna be our best pickup of this offseason in terms of surprise value.
 
In preseason, you judge whether you won a game not by the final score, but by whether you suffered any major injuries. Game tonight is a big win! (Scissors notwithstanding).
 
Depth, I think. We saw something similar with the Pats after 2004. On one side, all these other teams are willing to pay a premium for guys like Browner, Thurmond, Maxwell, Bryant, etc. On the other side, your own young talent is aging out of their rookie contracts and commanding top-of-the-market deals. Next thing you know, it's no longer the case that when a strong rotational player goes down you have someone 85% as good available to step up.

Not to mention, they haven't drafted all that well over the past 3 seasons.
 
I want really badly to jump on the Trey Flowers bandwagon, and for this not to just be standard preseason hype. He looks like he should be good, although I dunno how he'll get on the field with the depth we have at DE.

Flowers will see a lot of time in the rotation. Especially with Ninkovich hurting currently. I feel confident in saying that the plan was to move Ninkovich to MLB slowly as the year progressed with the primary 3 or 4 being Long, McClellin, and Sheard.

Remember that Sheard is dinged up right now as well. So I won't be surprised to see Flowers get a ton of snaps early on.
 
I really feel like McCourty has regressed since 2014 and he got his pay day. He just plays way to soft to be called Elite

Comments like this from people are just laughable.. You want to be taken seriously but make comments like this when the team is playing a vanilla defense??
 
Good game for Anthony Johnson. After reading all the accolades for him on page 21-22 of the game thread, I did a bit of research.

Here's my summary:

Back in 2014, guy had the all the raw skills, but IMO came out for draft too early and was really unpolished. How early? Like age 21 early. That's really young for a NFL rookie these days. Especially at his position. Lots to know there at the NFL level. All his negatives seem of the lack of experience / lack of technique variety. With tons of raw talent positives. So maybe NE saw the talent, waited for him to mature a bit, snatched him up, coached him up, and now that raw talent -always present- is shining thru. And he's still only 23. Might be a legitimate find.

 
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