Rob Gronkowski injury

[HeadHunter]

There's no way we can finish 4-1 without gronk. We need a bye

Which I why I'm kind of annoyed that it seems like he will sit. Dola will be out there Sunday and I promise he is not 100%. Same goes for Edelman and his foot, you know that kid is busting his ass to be back as soon as he can be, 100% or not. I love Gronk, I realllly do, once in a life time player, but is he putting his brand/name before the team? That's my question. Hopefully we are all over reacting, this is just insanely unusual for the Pats regarding and injury.

 

[Gronkowski123]

A months sound about right. He should be back for the jets game. Gonna be tough winning these next two games. I know the eagles have sucked but they will be a desperate team. They still alive in that division.

eagles have some weapons on offense. plus barwin so they have a decent rush. remember the giants have a terrible pass rush until they played us. the line is like pats + 9, way too high. top 4 receiving threats gone, this will be another grind.

Because he is tom brady. His mind and heart work differently. I doubt gronk really is making the call here. He loves to play too much to be not out there. His brand and people are being cautious. Which is fine too. Just me personally, I wouldnt have said anything. "Day to Day" is enough info for everyone. Maybe gronk's side thinks pats are leaking info that he will utmost miss a week so they went ahead and did that video message. Who knows. Just very unusual.

tom shouldn't play using gronkowski's logic then.

 

[Gronkowski123]

Which I why I'm kind of annoyed that it seems like he will sit. Dola will be out there Sunday and I promise he is not 100%. Same goes for Edelman and his foot, you know that kid is busting his ass to be back as soon as he can be, 100% or not. I love Gronk, I realllly do, once in a life time player, but is he putting his brand/name before the team? That's my question. Hopefully we are all over reacting, this is just insanely unusual for the Pats regarding and injury.

amendola shouldn't play either since he's not 100 percent.
edelman might break his foot again if he rushes but that doesn't stop him!

 

[HeadHunter]

amendola shouldn't play either since he's not 100 percent.
edelman might break his foot again if he rushes but that doesn't stop him!

Different strokes and such I'd guess, lol. I'm such a competitive ******* that's I'd be out there on crutches. But that's why they make the big bucks and I yell at my TV.

 

[SVN]

amendola shouldn't play either since he's not 100 percent.
edelman might break his foot again if he rushes but that doesn't stop him!

Iam not saying gronk's logic is right but thats how he is being managed . Gronk brand is bigger for them and they also know how much pats need gronk . I just hope it doesnt get annoying week after week like it did two yrs ago and it wouldnt have if they didnt do all this statement/video business.

 

[blackglass3]

I was at the Miami game in 2012 that ended the season. He essentially played that game with one arm he was nursing the repaired one so much. Then two weeks later he rebroke it. Hopefully this is him acknowledging and the team that he will get as close to 100% by playoff time.

 

[supafly]

Maybe I am missing something that the rest of you are seeing, but I wonder if you're not reading a bit too much into this? What's the big deal? All Belichick and the Pats care about is that the injury to Gronk wasn't nearly as severe as we thought on Sunday night. That's huge! Now you've got to properly manage the injury. He's one of the most important keys to our postseason chances, as Belichick has mentioned in the past. Why wouldn't they play it cautiously with him?

As I've mentioned before, since they ruled him out so early this week, one would have a hard time imagining how he'd suddenly be able to practice only 72 hours later on Wednesday; therefore, I think it's always been safe to assume that he's going to miss the Texans game as well. Once you get past the Texans game we have TEN...at home. Why not let him heal up yet another week and make sure that he's 100 percent? This seems like a no-brainer.

The only real question then becomes whether or not you'd want (or need, depending upon the seeding battle) to bring him back in one of the last 2 divisional games to end the season. We don't know what the situation will be in terms of where we stand, how much the starters will play, and all of those factors. That tells me that there may be a decent chance that we don't even bring him back for much before the playoffs, if at all. He doesn't need to knock the rust off as displayed by his 3 TDs in the season opener, but Belichick may want to get him some limited reps towards the end of the year.

 

[PatriotsPimp136]

Maybe I am missing something that the rest of you are seeing, but I wonder if you're not reading a bit too much into this? What's the big deal? All Belichick and the Pats care about is that the injury to Gronk wasn't nearly as severe as we thought on Sunday night. That's huge! Now you've got to properly manage the injury. He's one of the most important keys to our postseason chances, as Belichick has mentioned in the past. Why wouldn't they play it cautiously with him?

As I've mentioned before, since they ruled him out so early this week, one would have a hard time imagining how he'd suddenly be able to practice only 72 hours later on Wednesday; therefore, I think it's always been safe to assume that he's going to miss the Texans game as well. Once you get past the Texans game we have TEN...at home. Why not let him heal up yet another week and make sure that he's 100 percent? This seems like a no-brainer.

The only real question then becomes whether or not you'd want (or need, depending upon the seeding battle) to bring him back in one of the last 2 divisional games to end the season. We don't know what the situation will be in terms of where we stand, how much the starters will play, and all of those factors. That tells me that there may be a decent chance that we don't even bring him back for much before the playoffs, if at all. He doesn't need to knock the rust off as displayed by his 3 TDs in the season opener, but Belichick may want to get him some limited reps towards the end of the year.

I think we have to see what these other teams do as well. If we don't execute and play good football then we could be a 3rd seed. These games could be tight. Ughhh

 

[supafly]

There's no way we can finish 4-1 without gronk. We need a bye

I agree with most of your thoughts, but I'm not sure if this is true--especially if you're "just" talking about a bye and not the #1 seed. Consider that we're already up 1 game and that CIN/DEN play each other, meaning that one of them will have 3 losses, at least. I see no reason why we can't win 4/5 last games (or 3/4 if you're going to hold off on predicting what will happen in week 17) without Gronkowski.

2 of them are at home vs PHI and TEN, and we should definitely be able to win at least one of the last two divisional games on the road. That leaves the @Houston game as the matchup that may determine the difference between going 4-1 or 3-2, but either way, I think that's good enough for a bye. 13-3 will get the #2 seed in my opinion. I never bought into the "we could have a 15-1 team play on wild card weekend" talk. That was borderline ridiculous.

I suppose it will matter whether or not we lose to an NFC team like Philly, and/or how many losses will come in the other 4 AFC matchups, in terms of determining the tiebreaker between us and Cincy. We already know that we've lost it to Denver, should we have the exact same record as them, due to the head to head matchup.

 

[Joker]

We already know that we've lost it to Denver, should we have the exact same record as them, due to the head to head matchup.

 

[supafly]

Hope you're right, Joker, although it's hard to pin one's hopes to the back of that injury riddled and insanely underwhelming team. They completely suck, although I do agree that they should be able to have a traditional divisional battle, especially at home on Sunday.

Either way, I doubt that we're tied with Denver at the end since one would have to assume that one of CIN/PIT will beat them, if not both of them.

 

[Joker]

It's Brock Osweiler, Supa!!! Brock!!! He's the NEW Peytie!!! Brockie!!! The orange goon gang is going beserk...Elway is selling Yugos wrapped in Hyundai bumpers and fenders to all the yahoos west of the Pecos...THEY BELIEVE!!

C'mon man...when Rivers gets up by 2 TD's, head of Brockoli isn't going to have any crooked refs to pull his azz out of the steamer.Yes, I'm saying the Donkos lose this game.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Maybe I am missing something that the rest of you are seeing, but I wonder if you're not reading a bit too much into this? What's the big deal? All Belichick and the Pats care about is that the injury to Gronk wasn't nearly as severe as we thought on Sunday night. That's huge! Now you've got to properly manage the injury. He's one of the most important keys to our postseason chances, as Belichick has mentioned in the past. Why wouldn't they play it cautiously with him?

The big deal is:
(a) the team issued a joint statement with the player on the player's injury -- when has that ever happened before? Totally at odds with the team's standard operating procedure. So that's a big deal.
(b) the player put out a video where he stressed several times that he's not playing until he's 100%. No matter how you spin that, it's putting himself ahead of the team. Especially since no-one's 100% at this point and plenty of the team's stars have played at less than 100% many times. You can believe that's justified or you can believe otherwise, but it's still putting himself ahead of the team. And he did so publicly, which is also rare and hence a big deal.
(c) the team only has a 0.5 game lead for HFA. And (say) 80% of the player is still a huge help to the team.

That said, I'm on board with staying out until playing won't mean a meaningfully higher risk of reinjuring it than the "normal" playing football injury risk, but after that I do have a problem, especially with the team in a dogfight for HFA and a bye.

 

[mosslost]

amendola shouldn't play either since he's not 100 percent.
edelman might break his foot again if he rushes but that doesn't stop him!

The reality of the situation is that Gronk messed up with his public service announcement. It does not scream toughness or dedication, no matter how hard he says he will be working in the rehab. He should have just kept it all to himself.

The fact is he has been in the league 6 years. Five (5) of those years a team other than the Patriots won the Super Bowl. So having him on any team is clearly not a requirement for a Super Bowl championship. Pats will just have to tough it out. I hope all this is just overreaction, etc, but regardless if he is back playing in not too long he has put a bad taste in my mouth compared to the other greats of this team and the coach. It is actually a rather striking contrast. And the external control of the Gronk family almost reminds me of the Manning family circus at this point. Next thing you know ESPN reporters will have "insider" stories from sources.

If for whatever reason he remains unavailable because he is not 100%, I will be happy to have the Patriots continue to use his skills in future regular seasosns, keep him off any other rosters for several years anyway until he is dried up. And we will be able to lay claim to the greatest regular season Tight End of all time. Because if he truly is too hurt to play at all, and not wanting to "risk" injury without being 100%..... (which is stupid because he was 100% when that hit occurred, so 100% will not mean anything for injury prevention) if he truly won't play out of fear then that will make 4 our of 6 of his seasons ended or majorly affected by injury. You hear it all the time... It does not really matter how good you are if you don't stay on the field most of the time.

We won three Super Bowls, should have been 4 without Gronk. I think Belichick does need to think about making sure the team is built to win without him at this point. (And furture contributions from him are a bonus but should not be relied upon for championships) I actually think they will win the Super Bowl this year whether he plays or not.

 

[dannydyn]

Let's not forget that Gronk didn't break or tear anything. As far as this particular injury goes, being 100% means pain free. That's all. he doesn't have limited range of mobility, plates/screwed inserted, stapled ligaments repaired, etc. etc..... we got super lucky with his injury.

Essentially, with strong enough pain killers, he could play tomorrow. I think both Gronk and the team are just playing smoke and mirrors, and we'll see him back sooner than we anticipate. I wouldn't be shocked to see him practice (limited) this week, questionable for the Eagles, and active for Houston.

 

[luuked]

The big deal is:
(a) the team issued a joint statement with the player on the player's injury -- when has that ever happened before? Totally at odds with the team's standard operating procedure. So that's a big deal.
(b) the player put out a video where he stressed several times that he's not playing until he's 100%. No matter how you spin that, it's putting himself ahead of the team. Especially since no-one's 100% at this point and plenty of the team's stars have played at less than 100% many times. You can believe that's justified or you can believe otherwise, but it's still putting himself ahead of the team. And he did so publicly, which is also rare and hence a big deal.
(c) the team only has a 0.5 game lead for HFA. And (say) 80% of the player is still a huge help to the team.

That said, I'm on board with staying out until playing won't mean a meaningfully higher risk of reinjuring it than the "normal" playing football injury risk, but after that I do have a problem, especially with the team in a dogfight for HFA and a bye.

It doesn't matter if it is not standard operating procedure as long as both sides are on the same page and a joint press release suggests to me that they came together talked about the entire situation. Also, Belichick put Gronk into a special category by saying his unavailability was part of the reason why we couldn't get it done in the past so it is not like Gronk decided to put himself over the team.

Also you are taking the talk about being 100% way to literal. Of course everyone has their bumps and bruises due to the past 11 weeks, but Gronk is talking specifically about the knee issue. By taking the 100% so literally you essentially say that you think he will sit out until there is not a single scrape on his body anywhere. Based on everything I have seen from him since 2010 I doubt that there are many more players who are tougher and love the game more than Rob Gronkowski. So I find your implication that he doesn't care about the team pretty ridiculous.

And, finally, you presume to know that BB & co. value HFA over player's health. Are you sitting in on meetings and heard them say that ?

I can easily say that I rather play on the road with our key players back because they had enough time to overcome lingering issues than having HFA with the same squad that finished the Denver game.

A few days ago we thought Gronk was out for the season + next pre-season. Everyone would have given anything to have him back for the playoffs. Miraculously this wish was granted, and immediately some people become more greedy and want him back right away. It's ridiculous. Have some ****ing trust in the team.. they know what they are doing.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

amendola shouldn't play either since he's not 100 percent.
edelman might break his foot again if he rushes but that doesn't stop him!

so without amendola, edelman or gronk v. the eagles, just who is brady supposed to throw to? only chandler and lafell are left. we'd better hope amendola is 100% this week.

 

[mosslost]

Let's not forget that Gronk didn't break or tear anything. As far as this particular injury goes, being 100% means pain free. That's all. he doesn't have limited range of mobility, plates/screwed inserted, stapled ligaments repaired, etc. etc..... we got super lucky with his injury.

Essentially, with strong enough pain killers, he could play tomorrow. I think both Gronk and the team are just playing smoke and mirrors, and we'll see him back sooner than we anticipate. I wouldn't be shocked to see him practice (limited) this week, questionable for the Eagles, and active for Houston.

I think you are kind of making everyone who is upset's point for them here. Who needs to be pain free to play for a Super Bowl chance?

 

[mosslost]

It doesn't matter if it is not standard operating procedure as long as both sides are on the same page and a joint press release suggests to me that they came together talked about the entire situation. Also, Belichick put Gronk into a special category by saying his unavailability was part of the reason why we couldn't get it done in the past so it is not like Gronk decided to put himself over the team.

Also you are taking the talk about being 100% way to literal. Of course everyone has their bumps and bruises due to the past 11 weeks, but Gronk is talking specifically about the knee issue. By taking the 100% so literally you essentially say that you think he will sit out until there is not a single scrape on his body anywhere. Based on everything I have seen from him since 2010 I doubt that there are many more players who are tougher and love the game more than Rob Gronkowski. So I find your implication that he doesn't care about the team pretty ridiculous.

And, finally, you presume to know that BB & co. value HFA over player's health. Are you sitting in on meetings and heard them say that ?

I can easily say that I rather play on the road with our key players back because they had enough time to overcome lingering issues than having HFA with the same squad that finished the Denver game.

A few days ago we thought Gronk was out for the season + next pre-season. Everyone would have given anything to have him back for the playoffs. Miraculously this wish was granted, and immediately some people become more greedy and want him back right away. It's ridiculous. Have some ****ing trust in the team.. they know what they are doing.

They need to get the bye.. HFA would just be a luxury at this point. I still think they get HFA though just because we still have a game on both, and manageable schedule, CIN and DEN play each other, and have at least another dropable game somewhere.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

from Gronk's facebook this morning