Auburn-Alabama game ends on missed FG return for TD

[nabwong]

OT: Auburn-Alabama game ends on missed FG return

How many nfl team owners you think took out their cell and called nick Saban after that last play?

 

[Ring 6]

OT: Auburn-Alabama game ends on missed FG return

Actually I do. I follow college ball probably more then the NFL. You thinking OSU is a lock tells me more about your knowledge of college ball.

But You are never wrong about anything right Andy?

Got it. You are right because you say you are

How about we resolve this without the need to act like a dlck? Wait a week and it will be answered. Think you can do that?

 

[JDot]

Yeah, sorry if I'm attempting to sound like a know it all. I'm just getting sick and tired of hearing about the "controversy" every time Ohio State moves up.

As of last Saturday, they needed to win and have 2 teams (Baylor--who probably was going to overtake them if they won out, and one of ALA/FSU) lose. That happened. If you look at the BCS standings, Auburn was behind pretty significantly. There was no one I heard or know who thought there was even a remote possibility that Auburn would beat out Ohio State if they upset Alabama, and I watched every single possible TV show and podcast about it.

Their problem is that they not only lost a game, they got blown out by almost 50 points. They aren't going to be able to make up the difference, but as you said--we will see. Ohio State needs to win next Saturday first, or the whole thing is moot.

I am with you my man. I have just been watching CFB for to long not to see the BS SEC bias. I hope to god I am wrong. But I am so jaded on the BCS my default is always a 1 loss SEC will get the benefit of the doubt.

I honestly hope the SEC is shut out of the NCG.

 

[supafly]

They lost 35-21.

What should also be taken into account is that auburn needed that crazy hail mary to beat a bad Georgia team at home two weeks ago. auburn is OK but not special enough to jump an undefeated team from a major, though flawed, conference.

I'm sorry. I greatly apologize. I couldn't remember if it was this year or last, but you're right--it was last year.

Either way, I do agree with your logic. There's no way in my mind that a one loss team to a rather weak them beats out an unbeaten from a major conference, so that's the point.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

This is all very logical and on point. But the BCS is non of those things.

I'm not going to pretend I know. I don't. I have no clue. But I can't see it happening. auburn should have lost to Georgia. They would have lost to A&M if JFF hadn't missed 2-3 series. Would've, could've, should've, I know but the point is auburn has been largely squeaking through a mediocre (by conference standards) SEC this year.

 

[JDot]

Got it. You are right because you say you are

How about we resolve this without the need to act like a dlck? Wait a week and it will be answered. Think you can do that?

Sounds good.

Once again, I am not trying to be a ****, sorry if I come across that way. Like I said above, I have been watching CFB a long time. And I am really jaded on the whole BCS process. I think there is a inherently SEC Bias. I hope I am wrong, but history tells me the SEC will get in.

I am not trying to downplay OSU.

 

[supafly]

Hey at least we have a good race and some debates going into the last week of the season anyway.

The funny thing is that I wonder how much adding in their "playoff system" next year will change things. I am envisioning similar problems in trying to determine the #4th ranked team next season just the same

 

[wolverinejoe80]

That's absolute insanity.

Auburn not only lost a game this year, but they lost 49-0. There's no controversy between #2 and #3 on any level.

The scenarios have all been played out. If Ohio State beats Michigan St next Saturday, they'll definitely be playing Florida St for the national title.

People can hate on Ohio State all they want, but their strength of schedule was actually harder than Florida State's was. When you win 24 games in a row (25 would have to get them in), you probably deserve to play in the title game even if you only played a few top 25 teams (Wisconsin, AT Northwestern who was ranked #16 at the time, Michigan St). Let's not act like Florida State had any more of a difficult schedule, because they didn't. That's a fact that can't be disputed.

49-0 happened last year. i could careless who wins, but bucknuts did struggle against lowly michigan. trust me we are not that good. we struggled against every decent big ten team.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

Hey at least we have a good race and some debates going into the last week of the season anyway.

The funny thing is that I wonder how much adding in their "playoff system" next year will change things. I am envisioning similar problems in trying to determine the #4th ranked team next season just the same

8 would be much better.

Conference winner from :

SEC
PAC 12
BIG 10
BIG 12
ACC
------- that's 5
3 Wildcards

Done.

 

[supafly]

49-0 happened last year.

Yes, thank you. I corrected my response and apologize for the error. I was thinking of last season.

i could careless who wins, but bucknuts did struggle against lowly michigan. trust me we are not that good. we struggled against every decent big ten team.

I did not feel confident going into Ann Arbor today, nor do I ever.

I have seen UM teams ruin OSU's chances in back to back yrs in '95 and '96, so I don't take anything for granted. In a rivalry like that, you can throw records right out the window. I don't agree with you that UM's team this year was that bad though. They certainly weren't good, but they certainly had the capacity to play tough and even pull of an upset for sure.

If Ohio State has a flaw, it's certainly in their pass defense, and I think that has been exposed from time to time. The good thing is that they'd have a month to prepare for FSU should they win in Indy next Saturday, and they'll have a nice home field advantage as Indy is only 2.5 hrs from Columbus.

 

[JDot]

8 would be much better.

Conference winner from :

SEC
PAC 12
BIG 10
BIG 12
ACC
------- that's 5
3 Wildcards

Done.

It will get to 8 within the next 10 years.

 

[supafly]

8 would be much better.

Conference winner from :

SEC
PAC 12
BIG 10
BIG 12
ACC
------- that's 5
3 Wildcards

Done.

Yeah, in my opinion this may work out better, but then you'd have the potential for a team ranked 7 or 8 to win the whole thing. Personally I don't care for that, although some will disagree. I'd rather see it whittled down to a small handful of deserving teams.

The only concern that I have is that we may be having the same debate next season over who is that 4th team, just the same as we are this year about the 2nd team. All they really did was add 2 teams. I do like the fact that if you are one of those four teams you'll have to play 2 games though.

 

[patsinthesnow]

I give kudos to Alabama for their reign of dominance over the years. They were so close to the three peat.

I just want the most entertaining national championship game. No offense to your team Andy, but I fear OSU would be another punching bag for a national champion. I can't see them competing vs. FSU. They deserve to face them though if they beat the Spartans.

 

[supafly]

I give kudos to Alabama for their reign of dominance over the years. They were so close to the three peat.

I just want the most entertaining national championship game. No offense to your team Andy, but I fear OSU would be another punching bag for a national champion. I can't see them competing vs. FSU. They deserve to face them though if they beat the Spartans.

I have a feeling that things may be a lot closer than some feel if a FSU/OSU matchup should occur. Both teams have offenses that can run the ball, and QB's with versatility who can pose problems by running and passing.

Florida State has a better defense though, but I think that OSU can score with a lot of teams.

If Winston ends up being charged (and I don't really know too much about the case itself) that may change a lot of perspectives though. Last I heard the D.A. stated that they wouldn't have a decision by Thanksgiving, but that was 5-7 days or so ago. I'm assuming that a decision will be coming rather soon, if they haven't paid someone off to keep their mouths shut, which is always possible. If Winston is charged, he almost certainly doesn't play, and since their backup is already out for the year, they'd be down to their 3rd string QB.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Also, just for laughs,

If Duke beats FSU (Ik, lol)
MSU beats OSU
Auburn beats Missouri

Alabama vs. Auburn national title?

 

[supafly]

I give kudos to Alabama for their reign of dominance over the years. They were so close to the three peat.

I know many will disagree, but I'd love to have Saban as a coach in about 5+ yrs when Belichick eventually retires. I know he didn't do well with Miami in the NFL, but I think the situation is a bit different here in NE.

 

[JDot]

I give kudos to Alabama for their reign of dominance over the years. They were so close to the three peat.

I just want the most entertaining national championship game. No offense to your team Andy, but I fear OSU would be another punching bag for a national champion. I can't see them competing vs. FSU. They deserve to face them though if they beat the Spartans.

FSU will win by at least 15 against OSU. OSU's D is a year away from being good.

 

[JDot]

I know many will disagree, but I'd love to have Saban as a coach in about 5+ yrs when Belichick eventually retires. I know he didn't do well with Miami in the NFL, but I think the situation is a bit different here in NE.

Lol, Saban will be in Texas...

(troll post)

 

[supafly]

Also, just for laughs,

If Duke beats FSU (Ik, lol)
MSU beats OSU
Auburn beats Missouri

Alabama vs. Auburn national title?

I hear you, and I assume that's what many will be hoping for. One way or another they'll be wanting to see Auburn since Auburn is going to be considered some great team now.

The truth of the matter is that I honestly don't see Auburn as any better than OSU. Both teams have QB's who will run on you, and Braxton Miller's passing is leagues above the Auburn QB (as it should be). OSU runs just as well as Auburn, if not even better, and both defenses are on the same par--and that's being kind to Auburn.

I think they were able to create the perfect storm this weekend vs ALA, and I also think they got a bunch of somewhat lucky breaks in the past 2 weeks in order to be playing in that SEC Championship too.

 

[patsinthesnow]

I know many will disagree, but I'd love to have Saban as a coach in about 5+ yrs when Belichick eventually retires. I know he didn't do well with Miami in the NFL, but I think the situation is a bit different here in NE.

I respect the hell out of Saban and agree. The problem is he'd be 67 by then; I'll pass on a new coach of that age.