Eagles trade DT Isaac Sopoaga to Patriots

[PatsBoy12]

Re: Eagles trade Isaac sopoaga and a 6th to patriots for a fifth rounder

He will definitely help in the run game. I see that as a move to pair him with Kelly eventually and use Vellano and C. Jones more in passing situations, where they've both proven to be very disruptive.

 

[DaBruinz]

Uh, yeah, when a team unloads a player to move up 10 to 15 spots, he must be a real gem.

Or he's just not working out for the team that has him. Gotta love when the negative trolls come out of the woodwork and claim they know something.

 

[DaBruinz]

Depth? Sopoaga should be starting, especially on run downs. One of Vellano or Jones (both when Kelly returns) will be the depth.

You do realize that you just made his case for him, right? Adding Sopoaga creates depth that the Pats didn't have before.

 

[ausbacker]

Precisely the type of player at Defensive Tackle that the Patriots needed. I guess that makes the combination of Belichick and Caserio OK.

 

[DaBruinz]

His career averages per year. 27 tackles, .9 sacks, 1.9 run stuffs

Almost on pace this year 10 tackles, 0 sacks, 1 run stuff

Woo hoo... going to the SUPER BOWL NOW....

That is about as BLUE CHIP as you can get, right?

Only idiots look at stats and think that they tell the whole story. You clearly have no clue what a NT is supposed to do. Sopoaga was a starting NT for the 49ers for 6 years and they had excellent run defenses. Why? Because he's a space eater. Space eaters aren't supposed to get tackles. They are supposed to take up space and O-Linemen so that the people around them can make plays.

No one is saying that he's another Vince Wilfork. He's not. He's not a Ted Washington either. He's more of a Keith Traylor type player.

Do everyone a favor and learn something about the game..

 

[Kontradiction]

You do realize that you just made his case for him, right? Adding Sopoaga creates depth that the Pats didn't have before.

I took it to mean that Sopoaga was only traded for for depth purposes, meaning Jones and Vellano will retain their starting roles, even on run downs, and he would be a back-up. That should have been appallingly obvious by my post.

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: Eagles traded Isaac Sopoaga to Patriots

I'm wondering if this signing also had something to do with Armstead's readiness and availability.

It's not a signing. It's a trade.. Why do people not understand the difference?

 

[Kontradiction]

Only idiots look at stats and think that they tell the whole story. You clearly have no clue what a NT is supposed to do. Sopoaga was a starting NT for the 49ers for 6 years and they had excellent run defenses. Why? Because he's a space eater. Space eaters aren't supposed to get tackles. They are supposed to take up space and O-Linemen so that the people around them can make plays.

No one is saying that he's another Vince Wilfork. He's not. He's not a Ted Washington either. He's more of a Keith Traylor type player.

Do everyone a favor and learn something about the game..

Dude's a troll. Pay him no mind.

 

[Observer]

I was convinced we were getting Jared Allen, Larry Fitzgerald, and Tony Gonzalez... and all I get is this .

 

[Ring 6]

His career averages per year. 27 tackles, .9 sacks, 1.9 run stuffs

Almost on pace this year 10 tackles, 0 sacks, 1 run stuff

Woo hoo... going to the SUPER BOWL NOW....

That is about as BLUE CHIP as you can get, right?

Vince Wilforks career average per year. 36 tackles 1.8 sacks

Stats on a DT are useless to evaluate.

 

[ausbacker]

Only idiots look at stats and think that they tell the whole story. You clearly have no clue what a NT is supposed to do. Sopoaga was a starting NT for the 49ers for 6 years and they had excellent run defenses. Why? Because he's a space eater. Space eaters aren't supposed to get tackles. They are supposed to take up space and O-Linemen so that the people around them can make plays.

No one is saying that he's another Vince Wilfork. He's not. He's not a Ted Washington either. He's more of a Keith Traylor type player.

Do everyone a favor and learn something about the game..

How many years were we forced to sit through Vince Wilfork is overrated and/or Vince Wilfork isn't that important types of arguments because he wasn't putting up gaudy stats and instead was the "unsexy" anchor point for the D? Fantasy, gaming and media conditioning toward numbers have ruined aspects of football appreciation.

Sopoaga needs to replace the role. He's proven he can do it for the 49ers and Eagles. All he needs to do is have a hand in limiting 1-2 possessions a game for the Patriots opponents (especially in the Red Zone) and this trade would have been worthwhile. Keeping teams to 3 instead of 7 will prove important as the season continues to develop.

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: Eagles traded Isaac Sopoaga to Patriots

49ers let him go because Harbaugh and the 49ers brought in Glenn Dorsey in as the starting NT at half the price.

Umm.. How could the 49ers have "let him go" because the "49ers brought Glenn Dorsey in" when Sopoaga actually signed with the Eagles 3 days prior to the 49ers signing Dorsey. It's more like 49ers had to sign Dorsey because he walked and signed with the Eagles.

Also, the difference was about 1M per year..
Dorsey is costing them 3M per year while Sopoaga's contract was $4 mill per year.

 

[DaBruinz]

He's taking Vollmer's spot.

Was Vollmer officially IRed?

EDIT: Just saw that they did.. Pats need to add an OT now.. Wonder if they bring back Matt Kopa..

 

[reflexblue]

i feel much better about the interior d-line now, after watching it get run over sunday against miami

 

[SHOWTIME15]

i feel much better about the interior d-line now, after watching it get run over sunday against miami

Yeah but it's also mayo and kelly not being there, not just wilfork.

 

[simpletruth]

Vince Wilforks career average per year. 36 tackles 1.8 sacks

Stats on a DT are useless to evaluate.

Uh, his average is 51 tackles. Also he has had 2.5 pd and about 2.5 run stuffs. The last 4 years being 5 run stuffs.

Anyway, I know the value of a NT is more than just stats, but the really good ones like Vince do actually get more stats and are less "invisible" than this guy. Vince had to be double teamed a lot. Does this guy have to be?

I understand everyone hoping he makes a difference, but there has been tons of misplaced hope before.

 

[simpletruth]

Or he's just not working out for the team that has him. Gotta love when the negative trolls come out of the woodwork and claim they know something.

It is comical when any sort of ho-hum reaction to something everyone else believes is a really great move, is considered "negative" and must be from a troll. *rolls eyes*

I don't think the guy is all that good. I will take no issue admitting I am wrong if I am. Big deal.

My opinion not mirroring yours does not make me a troll, however.

 

[ausbacker]

Uh, his average is 51 tackles. Also he has had 2.5 pd and about 2.5 run stuffs. The last 4 years being 5 run stuffs.

Anyway, I know the value of a NT is more than just stats, but the really good ones like Vince do actually get more stats and are less "invisible" than this guy. Vince had to be double teamed a lot. Does this guy have to be?

I understand everyone hoping he makes a difference, but there has been tons of misplaced hope before.

There's also been tonnes of pleasant, unexpected surprises. To act as if one is more prevalent than the other isn't particularly bright.

I'm expecting Sopoaga to come in and do his job as part of the DT rotation with Kelly, Vellano and Jones. The addition of a season veteran to a rotation currently starting two rookies should not be underestimated.

 

[andrewgarrr]

Uh, his average is 51 tackles. Also he has had 2.5 pd and about 2.5 run stuffs. The last 4 years being 5 run stuffs.

Anyway, I know the value of a NT is more than just stats, but the really good ones like Vince do actually get more stats and are less "invisible" than this guy. Vince had to be double teamed a lot. Does this guy have to be?

I understand everyone hoping he makes a difference, but there has been tons of misplaced hope before.

Where are you getting the 51 number? Pro-football reference has it at 36...

 

[andrewgarrr]

It is comical when any sort of ho-hum reaction to something everyone else believes is a really great move, is considered "negative" and must be from a troll. *rolls eyes*

I don't think the guy is all that good. I will take no issue admitting I am wrong if I am. Big deal.

My opinion not mirroring yours does not make me a troll, however.

You think the guy is not good because you look at tackle and sack stats for a 3-4 NT?

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