Who the hell Boos their own team in a key 4th quarter moment?

[signbabybrady]

you are crossing contexts........ and no.....voicing displeasure is not being an Azzole.......calling people azzoles for booing is being an azzole

Not sure how I am crossing contexts? You said there is nothing wrong with saying you don't like a meal and I merely pointed out its not ok to boo him.

In what way is booing your hometeam a nice thing to do? Do you think the 53 players and 20 or so coaches enjoy being booed? Not sure how you can argue that doing it is not a jerk thing to do? There are other things done in front of crowds like concerts where we cheer and clearly someone's being a jerk to do anything else I would say the best anology would be heckling a comedian I think we all agree that guys a jerk.

 

[The Boston Patriot]

Giving up 13 straights points and punting on offense, giving the ball back to the Jets with a chance to win warrants boos in my opinion. This was looking like another epic colossal Patriots 4th Q. failure and the crowd knew that.

Something needs to be done. Pats can't keep doing this. The crowd was letting them know. Find by me.

Excellent answer. I wholeheartedly agree.

 

[Sporin]

I'm against booing the home team ever, personally. That's me.

But if that's what honest, paying fans were feeling then they are allowed to feel it and express it. No one is above the scorn of their fan base and they need to take their lumps along with the accolades.

That said... I agree with what Brady said, NE fans are spoiled (and this goes for other area sports as well). "We've" had so much success the last decade that we've lost our scrappy underdog vibe. They've forgotten what it was like to stink (and believe me, my father and grandfather would love to have winning the AFC East be "stink.").

I think it's the direct result of the media and many, many fans on this very forum thinking that we would break records, go undefeated, and offensively decimate every team we played this year. Seriously, go back and read some of the thread titles from a few months ago. Crazytown.

Folks set very unrealistic expectations on a team that, while very talented, has a lot of puzzle pieces that heave to snap together just right to be successful.

Honest assessment of "our" flaws as a team, tempered with more realistic expectations, will go a long way towards a better season for all of us.

 

[signbabybrady]

Here is George Carlins opinion on your rights (to boo)

Personally, when it comes to rights, I think one of two things is true: I think either we have unlimited rights, or we have no rights at all. Personally, I lean toward unlimited rights - I feel, for instance, I have the right to do anything I please. But, if I do something you don't like, I think you have the right to kill me. So where you gonna find a fairer ******* deal than that? So the next time some ******* says to you, "I have a right to my opinion," you say, "Oh yeah? Well, I have a right to my opinion, and my opinion is that you have no right to your opinion." Then shoot the **** and walk away!

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I offer this as a 20% serious 80% tongue-in-cheek suggestion.

While cheering and booing are as much a part of a sports' arena's "ambiance" as shouting "Bravo" and "hissing" are a part of the atmosphere at the Opera or theater, the point is well taken that "booing" your home team when it's leaving its blood and sweat on the field can come across as a tad ungrateful or even downright rude.

So, why not wire Gillette or any stadium and then make available a free App that enables attendees to register their mood during the game on their Smart Phones? Better yet, let Home Viewers buy the App and give their feedback during the game.

It would be a simple thing with a scale from one to ten, to register emotions ranging from "I'm disgusted" to "I'm ecstatic." The responses could be gathered electronically and then displayed on a continuous basis in the stadium with the average score of the thousands of fans showing up in a color coded display.

 

[BrickPat]

I offer this as a 20% serious 80% tongue-in-cheek suggestion.

While cheering and booing are as much a part of a sports' arena's "ambiance" as shouting "Bravo" and "hissing" are a part of the atmosphere at the Opera or theater, the point is well taken that "booing" your home team when it's leaving its blood and sweat on the field can come across as a tad ungrateful or even downright rude.

So, why not wire Gillette or any stadium and then make available a free App that enables attendees to register their mood during the game on their Smart Phones? Better yet, let Home Viewers buy the App and give their feedback during the game.

It would be a simple thing with a scale from one to ten, to register emotions ranging from "I'm disgusted" to "I'm ecstatic." The responses could be gathered electronically and then displayed on a continuous basis in the stadium with the average score of the thousands of fans showing up in a color coded display.

Taking a cue from you I'll be 20% serious in suggesting we build robots and have them attend the game in our place.

I could see if the booing was every five minutes or was excessively long but it wasn't. Some here are acting as if TB cried in his pillow that night and they have to stick up to bully fans who hurt his feelings.

I too suffered through the McPherson/Rust years and there are countless others here who go back much further than that. However there is a difference between blowhard booing when you don't see near perfection and booing to voice displeasure because the team has thus far not played up to their established potential for the 4th or 5th game in a row.

 

[Joker]

I offer this as a 20% serious 80% tongue-in-cheek suggestion.

While cheering and booing are as much a part of a sports' arena's "ambiance" as shouting "Bravo" and "hissing" are a part of the atmosphere at the Opera or theater, the point is well taken that "booing" your home team when it's leaving its blood and sweat on the field can come across as a tad ungrateful or even downright rude.

So, why not wire Gillette or any stadium and then make available a free App that enables attendees to register their mood during the game on their Smart Phones? Better yet, let Home Viewers buy the App and give their feedback during the game.

It would be a simple thing with a scale from one to ten, to register emotions ranging from "I'm disgusted" to "I'm ecstatic." The responses could be gathered electronically and then displayed on a continuous basis in the stadium with the average score of the thousands of fans showing up in a color coded display.

well...if this is an example of hyperbole then I think YOU will be one of the teams playing in the Hyper Bowl....(this post from "Bo" Lee who also says "Hy!!")

 

[pherein]

Not sure how I am crossing contexts? You said there is nothing wrong with saying you don't like a meal and I merely pointed out its not ok to boo him.

In what way is booing your hometeam a nice thing to do? Do you think the 53 players and 20 or so coaches enjoy being booed? Not sure how you can argue that doing it is not a jerk thing to do? There are other things done in front of crowds like concerts where we cheer and clearly someone's being a jerk to do anything else I would say the best anology would be heckling a comedian I think we all agree that guys a jerk.

I do agree, and think the fans that believe this is ok, and want to allow it, have to understand how quickly this can get out of hand, unless standards or traditions are created.
If NE fans let this happen and just blow it off. It will happen more frequently, and then become the norm,
and then players will start to loose the connection with the fans wondering why they were Booed on their 1st or 2nd 3 and out. At that point, it becomes very hard to change the culture of what is allowed.Try getting a fan movement at Jets stadium, its never going to happen.

 

[BrickPat]

I do agree, and think the fans that believe this is ok, and want to allow it, have to understand how quickly this can get out of hand, unless standards or traditions are created.
If NE fans let this happen and just blow it off. It will happen more frequently, and then become the norm,
and then players will start to loose the connection with the fans wondering why they were Booed on their 1st or 2nd 3 and out. At that point, it becomes very hard to change the culture of what is allowed.Try getting a fan movement at Jets stadium, its never going to happen.

Say what you want about the Jets but their fans are rabidly supportive and love to break out those obnoxiously deafening J-E-T-S chants. They only boo when things go south in a hurry which happens quite frequently as the team they root for is comically inept. That aside the Pats never have to worry about that (as if they even care about booing) as long they don't play let the Jets.

As noted two former Pat players had no problem with it and basically stated that it was deserved at that point, so I don't know why this is such a troublesome issue for some fans.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Taking a cue from you I'll be 20% serious in suggesting we build robots and have them attend the game in our place.

I could see if the booing was every five minutes or was excessively long but it wasn't. Some here are acting as if TB cried in his pillow that night and they have to stick up to bully fans who hurt his feelings.

I too suffered through the McPherson/Rust years and there are countless others here who go back much further than that. However there is a difference between blowhard booing when you don't see near perfection and booing to voice displeasure because the team has thus far not played up to their established potential for the 4th or 5th game in a row.

Well, I'll be 80% tongue in cheek when I say "lighten up."

I grew up in Philly and, believe me, I know how to boo at a Sports event...even empathized with the fans at the old Veterans stadium when they booed Santa Clause (the guy was too thin and if you can't bring real reindeer stay at the goddam north pole).

 

[PatsFanSince74]

well...if this is an example of hyperbole then I think YOU will be one of the teams playing in the Hyper Bowl....(this post from "Bo" Lee who also says "Hy!!")

"Hyperbole!" Now that's a word with way too many syllables for the stadium App.

Q: "How do you feel about how the Pats are playing?"

A: "Uh, I think I have a hyperbole but the doctor told me I could still have children."

 

[Major **********]

They only boo when things go south in a hurry

Or when their QB gets injured...

 

[pherein]

As noted two former Pat players had no problem with it and basically stated that it was deserved at that point, so I don't know why this is such a troublesome issue for some fans.

What did you think they would say? That they hated it ? Are disappointed in the fans? Thought you were jerks for doing so?
You think they will say that in a press conference?
Ill bet good money they say way different about you in the locker room,lol.

Might go like " who the F@@ do these people think they are and pretended they know Sh@t, we are busting our ass out there."
just an observation.

 

[Major **********]

What did you think they would say? That they hated it ? were disappointed in the fans? Thought you were jerks for doing so?
You think they will say that in a press conference?

Former players! They are in the media now and can say anything they want. One of them is the color guy on the Teams radio broadcast and if you hear the sound clip it sounded genuine not the "fans have the right to boo" PC line. The other one (Wiggy) is dumber than a bag of hammers so anything he says should be taken with a truck full of salt.

 

[Kontradiction]

You guys that were booing are big jerks!

 

[BSR]

Might go like " who the F@@ do these people think they are and pretended they know Sh@t, we are busting our ass out there."
just an observation.

...and then they would realize its the people that buy the tickets, watch the games and basically are the reason why they get paid millions to play a game.

You have to remember that different cities have different relationships with their teams/players. Northeast cities like NY, Philly and Boston all have their reputations as tough places to play. The fan bases are rabid but the criticisms are sharp and quick to come and the vulture media plays it up fiercely. The Patriots over the last 10 years have been shielded from this attitude mostly because of their winning and Belichick masterfully putting the media on ignore. But its a tenuous shield at best and the vulture media are currently poking looking for weak spots. The reality is that for a Boston team, the Patriots get a relative free pass, even with the occasional booing. I think Pats players look at respective teamates on the Redsox, Celtics and Bruins and realize they have nothing to complain about.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

You guys that were booing are big jerks!

Boooooooooo!

 

[BrickPat]

Former players! They are in the media now and can say anything they want. One of them is the color guy on the Teams radio broadcast and if you hear the sound clip it sounded genuine not the "fans have the right to boo" PC line. The other one (Wiggy) is dumber than a bag of hammers so anything he says should be taken with a truck full of salt.

Does anyone doubt that if these same former players thought the booing was horrible it'd been plastered all over this thread? How dare they not think like the fans? I guess it's easy to instantly label them as biased media rather than to ackowledge the veracity of what they said as former players. Using that logic no one should quote any "former" Patriot players as credible about anything if they work in the media. No quoting Ty Law, Troy Brown, Tedy Bruschi, etc...



Must-drink- the- kool- aid.

 

[Major **********]

Does anyone doubt that if these same former players thought the booing was horrible it'd been plastered all over this thread? How dare they not think like the fans? I guess it's easy to instantly label them as biased media rather than to ackowledge the veracity of what they said as former players. Using that logic no one should quote any "former" Patriot players as credible about anything if they work in the media. No quoting Ty Law, Troy Brown, Tedy Bruschi, etc...



Must-drink- the- kool- aid.

I'm not sure who you're arguing with...

 

[aluminum seats]

Does anyone doubt that if these same former players thought the booing was horrible it'd been plastered all over this thread? How dare they not think like the fans? I guess it's easy to instantly label them as biased media rather than to ackowledge the veracity of what they said as former players. Using that logic no one should quote any "former" Patriot players as credible about anything if they work in the media. No quoting Ty Law, Troy Brown, Tedy Bruschi, etc...



Must-drink- the- kool- aid.

Exactly. Football is an emotional game. You'd think the crowd was booing some momentary lack of perfection by reading this thread--it was at a point where everyone in that stadium should have been frustrated.

I see crowd noise--good and bad--as am amplification of what the players are feeling. The vast majority of the time, the crowd is cheering, and the players will feed off of that. In a rare instance like Sunday? Yeah, I think the players knew it wasn't going well. And I don't think the booing made them go whimper in the tunnel. I think they were equally ticked off, and the booing amplified that--creating a feeling of "Enough is right! Let's do this! GRRRRRAARGGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Or something like that.