Tiquan released; Ocho active?

[seven]

NESN click trolling for all it is worth.

What Do You Think of Patriots' Decision to Release Tiquan Underwood on Eve of Super Bowl XLVI?

Underwood's release is shocking, mostly because of its timing. The 24-year-old wideout saw limited action with the Pats this season, but it's bizarre to see a player let go on the eve of the biggest game of the year, no matter what that player's role is on the team.

The Patriots have let go of players on the night before games in the past, but none of those transactions garnered the attention that Underwood's release has. The cut even led to speculation as to whether the move was disciplinary, although that doesn't seem to be the case.

Underwood's agent, Ethan Lock, told NESN.com's Jeff Howe that New England didn't provide an explanation as to why his client was cut


Even though football is a business, though, it's tough to see a player who's worked so hard to help get the team to where it is get cut before the biggest game in all of sports -- even if that player only caught three passes all year.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Even BB could not be this heartless; there has to be more to this story. I suspect that Underwood could not resist some of the temptations during the last week of insane hoopla and parties etc. I can only speculate; maybe a missed meeting or a crushing hangover or something worse. I am not saying he pulled a Stanley Wilson (who was too drugged up to play for the Bengal in the Super Bowl) but I suspect it was some sort of infraction of team policy.

 

[THELAWFIRM226]

Just saw a tweet Tiquan recently posted....he wished the best of luck to the pats and his teammates. Stand up guy, its really an unfortunate situation but as someone was talking numbers before, I don't feel too bad for him considering his wallet is a hell of a lot fatter than mine....

 

[THELAWFIRM226]

Even BB could not be this heartless; there has to be more to this story. I suspect that Underwood could not resist some of the temptations during the last week of insane hoopla and parties etc. I can only speculate; maybe a missed meeting or a crushing hangover or something worse. I am not saying he pulled a Stanley Wilson (who was too drugged up to play for the Bengal in the Super Bowl) but I suspect it was some sort of infraction of team policy.

Good point, I hadn't thought about that aspect of this situation. The more I think about it the more I tend to agree with you. At the end of the day however, we will probably never know exactly what went on.

 

[eom]

Good point, I hadn't thought about that aspect of this situation. The more I think about it the more I tend to agree with you. At the end of the day however, we will probably never know exactly what went on.

I'm sure that won't stop anybody from spewing about it.

 

[Blizzzard]

XLVII and XLVIII (48).

THEN he's screwed.

Nope.
He made the mistake of putting those black flame things around the roman numerals. There is no way he can add an "I" to that without it looking incredibly bad.

He's screwed now

 

[shmessy]

Even BB could not be this heartless; there has to be more to this story. I suspect that Underwood could not resist some of the temptations during the last week of insane hoopla and parties etc. I can only speculate; maybe a missed meeting or a crushing hangover or something worse. I am not saying he pulled a Stanley Wilson (who was too drugged up to play for the Bengal in the Super Bowl) but I suspect it was some sort of infraction of team policy.

That's pathetic.

There have been 5-6 good reasons put out here and in the press about why this makes sense on a football level.

The Patriot sources have told the media that it had nothing to do with any infraction.

Tiquan Underwood has handled this with grace and class on his Twitter account and thanked the organization and coaches.

Then some anonymous poster typing away in his basement puts out unfounded speculation that the kid did something nefarious.

Why don't you go torture the neighborhood cats?

 

[Ring 6]

Even BB could not be this heartless; there has to be more to this story. I suspect that Underwood could not resist some of the temptations during the last week of insane hoopla and parties etc. I can only speculate; maybe a missed meeting or a crushing hangover or something worse. I am not saying he pulled a Stanley Wilson (who was too drugged up to play for the Bengal in the Super Bowl) but I suspect it was some sort of infraction of team policy.

Why?
He wasn't going to be active and Silvestro was. A spot was needed. Why do you need to imply a tarnish on the player, just because he wasn't one of the 45 best for this game?
Understand there HAD TO BE A CUT to activate Silvestro.
If it were not for that, Underwood would just have been inactive instead.

 

[Ring 6]

Good point, I hadn't thought about that aspect of this situation. The more I think about it the more I tend to agree with you. At the end of the day however, we will probably never know exactly what went on.

At the end of THIS day you do. Nothing went on. He was cut because a spot was needed to promote Silvestro from the practice sqaud. End of story.

 

[PATSNUTme]

It's really simple. BB is doing what he thinks gives the Patriots the best chance to win. Which is why they are making the trip in the first place.

How many times do people have to hear BB say that?

Its' a tough break for Underwood and I wish him well. But if releasing him gives the Patriots a better chance to win the game, then it's fine with this Patriots fan.

BTW, Troy Brown was put on inactive for the GB SB and things turned out well for him going forward. I hope the same for Underwood.

 

[Ring 6]

It's really simple. BB is doing what he thinks gives the Patriots the best chance to win. Which is why they are making the trip in the first place.

How many times do people have to hear BB say that?

Its' a tough break for Underwood and I wish him well. But if releasing him gives the Patriots a better chance to win the game, then it's fine with this Patriots fan.

BTW, Troy Brown was put on inactive for the GB SB and things turned out well for him going forward. I hope the same for Underwood.

Right. Really he is just being inactivated, but technically he had to be released because they needed the roster spot, and he wasn't going to be using it.

 

[reflexblue]

Bottom line while it may be good for the team it sucks for Underwood.

 

[Ring 6]

Bottom line while it may be good for the team it sucks for Underwood.

Meh, only on a technicality. He wasn't playing anyway.

 

[THELAWFIRM226]

At the end of THIS day you do. Nothing went on. He was cut because a spot was needed to promote Silvestro from the practice sqaud. End of story.

I'm curious as to how you have all of this completely figured out?

 

[PatriotSeven]

They don't declare the inactives until something like 1 hour before kickoff.

In that case, at this point, I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if that guy's Gronk. It's gonna most likely be one of the game time decision guys.

And if it is then you are right. It does suck even more for Gronk if he's that guy considering, unlike Underwood, he did a whole hell of a lot for us to be here.

And just like Underwood, he too, would probably understand.

 

[Ring 6]

I'm curious as to how you have all of this completely figured out?

Kind of simple.
They promoted Silvestro to the 53. There is no reason to do that unless he is going to be active.
By promoting him, they needed to release a player. It is only common sense that the one released was not going to be active.
Thats it.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

That dude is gonna rat us out to someone on the Giants. What's stopping this man from doing it? Imagine being taken all the way to Indy, made personal videos for himself and his family to remember the occasion for a lifetime just to get axed THE DAY BEFORE.

I don't like it one bit and i'm not even a guy that goes along with conspiracy rumours but for some reason my gut says bad move.

On the plus side it means Gronk is 100% good to go and Ocho is ready to prove a point.

This is not Jr. High....... TiQ has a career to think about. The only ones to show interest in him since his release from the Jax TC is the Patriots. There is about a 90% chance that he'll be back with the team in 72 hours on the PC. He'll be in camp next year, fighting for another roster spot. Tom has spoken highly of the kid so the only place he looks to have a future in the NLF right now is with the Pats. He's not going to do anything stupid to jeopardize that.

As for Gronk..... I say quite the opposite. This could likely mean that Gronk is going to be taken off ST duties to keep him as effective as possible in his primary roll. By definition, that means he not 100%. Though, he's probably healthy enough to be very effective where we need him to be.

Good point, I hadn't thought about that aspect of this situation. The more I think about it the more I tend to agree with you. At the end of the day however, we will probably never know exactly what went on.

No, it's actually a terrible point. It's baseless speculation about a players personal character that indicates he did something wrong when we have no idea if thats the case.

There are some very logical football reasons for this. The Gronk situation is most likely. It's a decision that basically required them to wait till the last possible moment to pull the trigger on. They probably got word that He's okay to play, but that he may have to reduce his secondary roll (STs) in order to maximize his primary one.

Look, the team already knows who their inactives are going to be. At the 11th hour, they decided they needed a reserve DL guy that can play STs (in Gronk's spot)..... The one they have available is on the PS and not the active roster. Simple solution...... release the inactive player that you feel most confident will clear waivers and will still be available to you next year. Now you have room to bring in the player that you determined you need for the game. Good chance Guyton or Brace are gonna be inactive too, but they don't want to expose them to the waiver wire if they don't have too. Someone could scoop them right out from under us. TiQ, as has been demonstrated several times this year already (much like Ventrone), is a pretty safe "roster pawn".

This has just about NOTHING to do with TiQ personally, or his character. He's just the guy they decided among their inactives that they felt had the best chance of clearing waivers. They are probably right about that.

If you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras (unless your in Africa ).

 

[Ring 6]

In that case, at this point, I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if that guy's Gronk. It's gonna most likely be one of the game time decision guys.

And if it is then you are right. It does suck even more for Gronk if he's that guy considering, unlike Underwood, he did a whole hell of a lot for us to be here.

And just like Underwood, he too, would probably understand.

What in the world are you talking about?
This move has nothing to do with Gronk, however, considering that we would only have 1 TE, it would follow that if Gronk were not going to be active, Underwood would have been, just so there were enough bodies at recevier in case of injury.
I think your logic is backward.

 

[blackglass3]

When Troy Brown was inactivated for 42 I felt that was bad karma and the team was headed down the wrong path. This move, otoh, is not a huge deal. Was Tiquan Underwood going to keep the D on their heels? Doubtful.

Now, get back to me karma wise if Kevin Faulk is inactive tomorrow...

 

[seven]

Gronkowski will play | ProFootballTalk