AFCE contract news: D'Bust signs D'extension

[DaBruinz]

USATODAY.com

Looks like D Brick is getting top 5 money.

D'Brick was scheduled to make 3.123 million this year with a 1.5 million roster bonus (which has already been paid). And a salary next year of 10 million.

With the addition 60 million, that works out to be 74.62 million over the next 8 years. But, it's clear that the EXTENSION didn't affect the remaining 2 years except to possibly give him an additional signing bonus as part of the extension. We do know that is a LOT of money for him. Probably more than should have been paid, all things considered. The 34.8 million (I erroneously said 34.6 earlier) is the most guaranteed money of any O-line contract.

It remains to be seen how the money will be broken up, but the Jets are clearly on the hook for at least $50 million over the next five years for a guy who was horrible before Alan Faneca showed up and who will be a question mark going forward with Vlad Ducasse next to him.

 

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D'Brick was scheduled to make 3.123 million this year with a 1.5 million roster bonus (which has already been paid). And a salary next year of 10 million.

With the addition 60 million, that works out to be 74.62 million over the next 8 years. But, it's clear that the EXTENSION didn't affect the remaining 2 years except to possibly give him an additional signing bonus as part of the extension. We do know that is a LOT of money for him. Probably more than should have been paid, all things considered. The 34.8 million (I erroneously said 34.6 earlier) is the most guaranteed money of any O-line contract.

It remains to be seen how the money will be broken up, but the Jets are clearly on the hook for at least $50 million over the next five years for a guy who was horrible before Alan Faneca showed up and who will be a question mark going forward with Vlad Ducasse next to him.

WOW. If all of that is accurate then his 2011 cap number will be 14.35 mill (34.8 divdied by 8 plus 10mill salary) Good luck to all those guys with expiring contracts.

 

[Rexorcism]

So does Jackson.

Well he would have to be on a team to play football.

 

[Joker]

Jackson signed with Buffalo on March 31st

 

[Rexorcism]

Jackson signed with Buffalo on March 31st

My statement still stands.

 

[AzPatsFan]

"All Jets picks are the BEST!!!!"..*cough*..Goatston..*hack*...*cough
"All Jets picks are the BEST!!!!"..*cough*..Robertson..*hack*...*cough*

 

[Rexorcism]

Not only is this thread longer than the D'Brick threads on the Jet boards I read, it also shockingly contains some level headed talk and hard analysis.


What is going on here?

 

[Ring 6]

Not only is this thread longer than the D'Brick threads on the Jet boards I read, it also shockingly contains some level headed talk and hard analysis.


What is going on here?

Are yo sure you read it all

 

[Gunnails]

Well those are 09 figures.
New contracts always make up the top, by the time its over it wont be close to top 5.
The danger is they gave him a RECORD guaranteed money with no clue what next years cap will be. On top of that, the Jets have a lot of their better players with expiring contracts. Perhaps it will work out, but I don't understand the logic of extending a player and bumping up his cap numnber when he has 2 years left on his contract, and you don't know what cap level it will fall under.
On top of the fact its a lot of money for an average LT.

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Revis has 3 years left, given your post above, what should the Jets do about extending Revis?

"All Jets picks are the BEST!!!!"..*cough*..Goatston..*hack*...*cough
"All Jets picks are the BEST!!!!"..*cough*..Robertson..*hack*...*cough*

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Revis, Mangold, D Brick, Harris.

Ghoulston has been an utter flop, D Robertson looks all world compared to him.

 

[Deus Irae]

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Revis has 3 years left, given your post above, what should the Jets do about extending Revis?

Reportedly, the Jets approached Revis, as opposed to Revis approaching the Jets. That, therefore, is a monster of the team's own creation, and they'll now have to pay the man.

 

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Revis has 3 years left, given your post above, what should the Jets do about extending Revis?


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I think thats a big problem for them.
The Jets have a serious cap dilemma coming. By my count they have now expended 103mill on 40 players including 14 starters, using a 2mill # for Revis.
That does not include Harris, Mangold, Holmes, Edwards, Cromartie, all guys who are going to be looking for top dollars.
If Revis gets the 15 mill a year he is asking for that bumps your cap cost up to 116mill with 8 starters to go and many reserves. (A lot of the 26 non-starters that are signed for 2011 won't make the team in 2010 or2011 and are at minimum dollars)
Its a big dilemma, and when you mae a habit of extending guys early you are asking for problems, because every good player in a rookie contract will have problems that it isnt them. What will Greene do if he runs for 1200 yards this year and is due to make $480,000 next year?
I have a hard time answerin what to do about Revis.
My personal approach would be that you have a contract, and we dont do extensions until the final year, bu the Jets can't take that approach any longer.

 

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Revis has 3 years left, given your post above, what should the Jets do about extending Revis?

By the way. what is the urgency to extend Ferguson when he has 2 years left on his contract and is set to make $10,000,000 in 2011?????
That makes no sense to me.
I guess if you are going to do it anyway you save 4.5 mill of cap space by having it count this year, but you add the same amount to next year when its going to be a problem.
A real head-scratcher to me, and a disasterous move if he has a debilitating injury this season, not that I would wish that on anyone.

 

[Gunnails]

Reportedly, the Jets approached Revis, as opposed to Revis approaching the Jets. That, therefore, is a monster of the team's own creation, and they'll now have to pay the man.

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Maybe the Jets created a monster, I would argue no.

Jets did approach Revis and tell him they would extend him and then they made an offer ($10 mil + per year), Revis did not accept. At any rate the Jets did follow through as promised.

Still the Jets own Revis for the next 3 years ($20 mil+ if he plays out the last 3 years on his contract), I feel the Jets are in a very good posistion regarding Revis and should receive some sort of discount for extending him now.

 

[Rexorcism]

By the way. what is the urgency to extend Ferguson when he has 2 years left on his contract and is set to make $10,000,000 in 2011?????
That makes no sense to me.
I guess if you are going to do it anyway you save 4.5 mill of cap space by having it count this year, but you add the same amount to next year when its going to be a problem.
A real head-scratcher to me, and a disasterous move if he has a debilitating injury this season, not that I would wish that on anyone.

Tannenbaum broke into this league as a cap expert under Parcells. I would like to think he knows what he's doing here but you never know. Anyhow, the Jets were supposed to be in cap hell for the past three years and still haven't arrived there yet.

 

[Gunnails]

By the way. what is the urgency to extend Ferguson when he has 2 years left on his contract and is set to make $10,000,000 in 2011?????
That makes no sense to me.
I guess if you are going to do it anyway you save 4.5 mill of cap space by having it count this year, but you add the same amount to next year when its going to be a problem.
A real head-scratcher to me, and a disasterous move if he has a debilitating injury this season, not that I would wish that on anyone.

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My best guess is it is a salary cap move, a gesture of goodwill, and to ensure they have him long term at a price they feel they can afford. You can't put the FA tag on everyone.

Risk of Injuries are part of the game and a risk that teams/players are forced to take yet are unable to predict, it is what it is

 

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Maybe the Jets created a monster, I would argue no.

Jets did approach Revis and tell him they would extend him and then they made an offer ($10 mil + per year), Revis did not accept. At any rate the Jets did follow through as promised.

Still the Jets own Revis for the next 3 years ($20 mil+ if he plays out the last 3 years on his contract), I feel the Jets are in a very good posistion regarding Revis and should receive some sort of discount for extending him now.

But does the player see it that way? History says that when a team tells a player it wants to extend him, then offers something less than what the player thinks he should be offer, it creates a lot of bad blood and problems.
The Mankins story is a great example. He came out and said that the Patriots screwed him because they told him they wanted to wait for the CBA to be resolved then they would deal with his contract, then offered him a contract THIS YEAR before the CBA was even resolved but because it was for less than he thinks it should be he says they lied.
Sure the Pats stand in great shape toward Mankins negotiations because he is due only the tender this year, and they can tag him next year, but the very fact that they hold those cards has created a problem with the player blaming them for holding the cards.

 

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My best guess is it is a salary cap move, a gesture of goodwill, and to ensure they have him long term at a price they feel they can afford. You can't put the FA tag on everyone.

Risk of Injuries are part of the game and a risk that teams/players are forced to take yet are unable to predict, it is what it is

It cant be a cap thing because it was an extension so it only added more $$ to the cap number for 2011.
Thats the puzzle to me, there are still 2 years left, he couldn't complain about what he was due to make those 2, and they don't know the cap status of those years.

As far as the injury risk, sure, but you are asking to take on a ton of injury risk by guaranteeing 34 mill 2 years sooner than you need to. Its a violent game, I wold imagine there will be a number of OTs who's injury statuses 2 years from today would be vastly different than today.

I'm not trying to rip the Jets for the move as much as I am trying to list the reasons it doesnt make sense because there has to be reasons why it would???????

 

[Ring 6]

Tannenbaum broke into this league as a cap expert under Parcells. I would like to think he knows what he's doing here but you never know. Anyhow, the Jets were supposed to be in cap hell for the past three years and still haven't arrived there yet.

I dont know how the fact that the guy worked on the cap early in his career has anything to do with whether the Jets have a cap problem coming. Every team that has had cap problems had expereinced cap people making the decisions.
I don't know where you get 'supposed to be in cap hell for the past 3 years' but I am looking at the actual current numnbers, players signed, cap room expended and players and starters that have expiring contracts.
Unless the NFLPA destroys the owners in negotiations, the Jets will not be able to keep all of thier players under next years cap. Its really a math problem.

 

[Gunnails]

It cant be a cap thing because it was an extension so it only added more $$ to the cap number for 2011.
Thats the puzzle to me, there are still 2 years left, he couldn't complain about what he was due to make those 2, and they don't know the cap status of those years.

As far as the injury risk, sure, but you are asking to take on a ton of injury risk by guaranteeing 34 mill 2 years sooner than you need to. Its a violent game, I wold imagine there will be a number of OTs who's injury statuses 2 years from today would be vastly different than today.

I'm not trying to rip the Jets for the move as much as I am trying to list the reasons it doesnt make sense because there has to be reasons why it would???????

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What it does is set a salary that the Jets find workable for future cap.

 

[ausbacker]

Not only is this thread longer than the D'Brick threads on the Jet boards I read, it also shockingly contains some level headed talk and hard analysis.


What is going on here?

It's a well known fact that Patriots Nation is far more intelligent, reasonable and rational than Jesterland. C'mon man.. you know this