AFCE contract news: D'Bust signs D'extension

[Ring 6]

A LT doesn't have to help out a guard, but if a guard is weak, the left tackle receives less help (RB should help the inside rusher first). Also, six sacks + a lot of pressures + having to game plan around a very weak link in pass protection = a lot of rushed passes and reduced confidence in the passing game. If you don't realize that a bad pass-blocking LG doesn't do much help to a pass-blocking specialist at LT, you're delusional. And Faneca was adequate at drive-blocking, but the right side of the line got a more consistent push off the LOS, even without Faneca's pulling, from what I saw.

Ferguson wasn't Pro-Bowl caliber because of Faneca. He went to the Pro Bowl because he's an above-average to good pass blocking LT, and the starter was injured. He's deserving of the contract - it's not outrageous looking at comparable players who've signed recently.

Also, an example of my initial point: NFL Videos: Mark Sanchez Highlight, WK 01 vs. Texans 2009

This play was memorable for me because I was worried about Faneca last off-season, and it confirmed my fears - I didn't want him protecting Sanchez. He completely whiffs his assignment - the RB/Mangold have to block the interior rusher, leaving Ferguson on an island (as he was consistently that day). Luckily, Ferguson handles his assignment, Sanchez completes the pass. Also notable if you look up more from that game - They had Mario Williams lined up against D'Brick one on one a lot more in the first half, Willams never got close to Sanchez.

If Ferguson was cut and Faneca kept you would be saying the exact opposite today.

 

[Ring 6]

They wanted Ferguson done before any premium LT talent make any new deals - as of now, he's under contract for eight years for $73.6 million. Averages to a bit over 9 million per year, which is less than the top tier LT contracts are going to be over the next eight years.

It was the easiest contract of their top four young "stars," to get signed. They want to resign as much as possible as fast as possible so there aren't a lot of disgruntled players with dire need of new contracts at the same time, this move, coming at this time, gives more stability to an uncertain future.

That doesnt make any sense to me.

 

[Ring 6]

What you meant to say is hes on the Bills pratice squad and will be out of a job again come training camp.

The guy was cutting lawn somewhere last year and has had one catch since 07 and only 14 for his career.

He makes Gholston look like a hall of famer.

Someone who is in a wheelchair makes Gholston look like a bust and a stiff.
Chad Jackson is tied with Vernon Gholston in career sacks.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

That doesnt make any sense to me.

Try this. It's essentially the path of least resistance approach. Bill takes it often, albeit with lesser talents and contracts that reflect that.

The guys the JETS really want to extend have rookie contracts that preclude extensions at this time by virtue of the 30% rule short of handing them massive signing bonus which has to be fully funded up front. When your psl sales are lagging, that's not an easy thing to do. And of course doing it that way opens you up to more risk moving forward since signing bonus is largely unrecoverable.

Until the details of Ferguson's deal are leaked out, we won't really know what the JETS are on the hook for beyond $35M which may also not be as fully "guaranteed" as it would appear at first blush. If the guarantees revolve around injury and not skill, you can still part with the player and get off the hook on all or part of his remaining so called guaranteed money. The devil is in the details

And for the record you can't guesstimate cap hits the way you attempted to a while back. Only signing bonus is amortized and at present only for 5 years. And given his salary basis, he may not have received much bonus money (guarantees in lieu of). If we go back to a similar capped system in 2011 and beyond, high salaries incorporated into his deal to achieve guaranteed minimums can always be converted to signing bonus and prorated over the remainder of his contract (in the usual six year increments). So while he may not be worth the money, they may well be able to manage it on the cap for a while by simply pushing it forward. Then either they restructure or he's the next former JET out the door because longterm he wasn't worth his contract.

D'Brickashaw deal wasn't hampered by 30-percent rule | ProFootballTalk.com

 

[Kontradiction]

Fun fact: D'Bustashaw allowed the same amount of sacks (6) last season as Alan Faneca.

 

[Kontradiction]

Another fun fact: Matt Light allowed 2 QB sacks last season to Ferguson's 6 and Jake Long's 4. At 6 sacks allowed, Ferguson allowed more drive enders than the much maligned Nick Kaczur did last season.

 

[Rob0729]

Fun fact: D'Bustashaw allowed the same amount of sacks (6) last season as Alan Faneca.

But Ferguson's sacks were all coverage sacks.

 

[Rob0729]

Another fun fact: Matt Light allowed 2 QB sacks last season to Ferguson's 6 and Jake Long's 4. At 6 sacks allowed, Ferguson allowed more drive enders than the much maligned Nick Kaczur did last season.

Before any Jets fan attempts to dismiss this by saying that Light missed 5 games last year, don't forget that Brady averaged 35.3 attempts per game last year and passed 201 times more than Sanchez. Based on Brady's average, it would take him 5.69 games to pass 201 times. So Light and Ferguson blocked for a similiar amount of passing attempts last year. Kellen Clemens did have 26 passing attempts last year, so Ferguson might have blocked for about a dozen more or so times.

Ferguson may be a far better run blocker than Light, but Light is a far superior pass blocker than Ferguson.

 

[Joker]

this will all be very confusing to the gaa gaa,infantile green pom pom wavers...thanks for the input,Rob

 

[Joker]

I'm not sure but I think ONS is a shortened form of "onset of mental decrepitude".

 

[Too_Funny]

Fun fact: D'Bustashaw allowed the same amount of sacks (6) last season as Alan Faneca.

Equally fun fact.

He gave up the same amount of pressures as Vollmer & played over 400 more snaps.

He gave up 7 less pressures than Light and played over 500 more snaps.

He was the 4th best rated 16 game starter at LT last season.

 

[Kontradiction]

Equally fun fact.

He gave up the same amount of pressures as Vollmer & played over 400 more snaps.

He gave up 7 less pressures than Light and played over 500 more snaps.

He was the 4th best rated 16 game starter at LT last season.

What were the passing attempt amounts between Brady and Sachez last season? Pressures are one thing. Brady can handle pressures. Pressures also do not end drives. Sacks do. Ferguson gave up more of those drive enders than Matt Light and Jake Long combined.

 

[Deus Irae]

Equally fun fact.

He gave up the same amount of pressures as Vollmer & played over 400 more snaps.

He gave up 7 less pressures than Light and played over 500 more snaps.

He was the 4th best rated 16 game starter at LT last season.

He's no better than #3 LT in the AFCE.

Hell, just a quick look at the AFC in general:

Thomas
Clady
Long
Gaither
Oher
Light
Roos

Every one of those is better than D'Bust. McNeil may be better, depending upon the season. Vollmer may be better.

But the Jets just gave him an extension as if he's an elite LT. Good work!

 

[Too_Funny]

Brady can handle pressures. Pressures also do not end drives.

Thanks!

So an experienced QB can handle pressures?

An inexperienced one would probably not fare as well and they would turn into hits &/or sacks.

Gotcha!

 

[Too_Funny]

He's no better than #3 LT in the AFCE.

Hell, just a quick look at the AFC in general:

Thomas
Clady
Long
Gaither
Oher
Light
Roos

Every one of those is better than D'Bust. McNeil may be better, depending upon the season. Vollmer may be better.

But the Jets just gave him an extension as if he's an elite LT. Good work!

Stats disagree with you.

My eyes disagree with you. The few Jets games you may have tuned in to last season doesn't really mean much to me.

 

[Kontradiction]

Thanks!

So an experienced QB can handle pressures?

An inexperienced one would probably not fare as well and they would turn into hits &/or sacks.

Gotcha!

You claim to be a Jet fan? Sanchez didn't just sit back and take a whole lot of sacks last year that COULD have been pressures. Instead he forced the ball into tight or double coverage which often resulted in a pick. That was the reason behind the green light/red light system they had to install for him.

Ferguson gave up just as many sacks as Faneca (blown theory #1) and gave up more sacks than Matt Light and Jake Long combined (blown theory #2).

 

[Deus Irae]

Equally fun fact.

He gave up the same amount of pressures as Vollmer & played over 400 more snaps.

He gave up 7 less pressures than Light and played over 500 more snaps.

He was the 4th best rated 16 game starter at LT last season.

Fun fact


Brady had 565 pass attempts last season, compared to Sanchez' 364.

 

[Deus Irae]

Stats disagree with you.

No, they don't.

My eyes disagree with you. The few Jets games you may have tuned in to last season doesn't really mean much to me.

I probably saw as many Jets games last season as you did. I clearly paid more attention to the left tackle position during those games than did you.

 

[Rexorcism]

I probably saw as many Jets games last season as you did. I clearly paid more attention to the left tackle position during those games than did you.

Subjective.

 

[Rob0729]

Equally fun fact.

He gave up the same amount of pressures as Vollmer & played over 400 more snaps.

He gave up 7 less pressures than Light and played over 500 more snaps.

He was the 4th best rated 16 game starter at LT last season.

Hard to pressure the QB when he takes two steps and hands off the ball most of the game. Brady threw the ball 201 more times than Sanchez did. That's happen when a team doesn't trust their QB to win games (or not to lose games). They don't throw the ball.