Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 [mergedx3]

[solman]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

Throw the cap out the window. Teams find a way to sign anybody they want. How come nobody is questioning how the Redskins were able to afford the ridiculous contracts they threw at Haynsworth and Hall? They didn't have that much more cap space than the Pats at the start of free agency.

I've long been an advocate of the view that cap money is fungible. But the Patriots don't have infinite maneuvering room. Several of our moves (The Randy Moss restructuring in particular) were sub optimal in terms of moving cap space into future years.

As far as Haynesworth goes, the biggest component of his compensation is an option bonus which will be paid out of 2010 dollars. This technique will work well for reducing the size of new contracts, but it won't manufacture additional cap space.

 

[tombonneau]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

I just cant see how this can work cap wise...unless we plan on trading seymour or green. speaking of which we just re signed Tank WIlliams , Ray Ventrone and Wesley Britt and also signed C Al Johnson according to patriots.com...what are we? 2.5 under the cap now?

Agreed. I'm sure they could make it work for 2009, but the short-term ramifications (2010-2012) would likely prohibit re-signing key internal FAs. Of course, BB & Kraft might have a good idea of what the uncapped 2010 season is going to do look like and are acting accordingly.

 

[JMarr]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

I still don't see Peppers happening for the Pats, and I hope BB proves me dead wrong sometime today.

The part of this story I have an easier time seeing is the Pats moving up to take Maualuga.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

I normally don't get my hopes this high up over a rumor but when I first saw this thread earlier I got pretty excited. Just now I saw the frontpage of patsfans.com and I currently have a full blown erection.

 

[OhExaulted1]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

I wouldnt like to have Faulk released but his ~3M cap savings potential gives the 0.00000000000000000001% chance that he may become a cap casualty to fit Peppers in.

We should have moved up and got you instead of Claridge.

 

[OhExaulted1]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

Per wikipedia:

"He currently plays defensive end for the New England Patriots, after a trade for a 7th round pick by the idiot GM of the panthers."

I'd say pull the trigger on that one.

 

[stevedogc]

Mike Lynch made it seem deal for Peppers is imminent

Going into a commercial break during the 6 o'clock news he basically said the Pats were getting Peppers. His quote was something like "If you thought what the Pats got for Cassel was not enough, wait til you see what they are turning that into. Dont miss the sportscast." Now I am sure he may embellish it a bit to get people to stick around, but he never said "may" or "could" he made it seem like it was going to happen.

 

[Disco Volante]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

Is there a reason people are still doubting this will happen? (Besides the obvious fact it's not yet official)

Top story on the official NFL page along with being on the NFL-N/ESPN(lol) ticker pretty much make this set in stone to happen.

 

[JSn]

Re: Mike Lynch made it seem deal for Peppers is imminent

Stay tuned and type it up for us, yo.

 

[eom]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

I've long been an advocate of the view that cap money is fungible. But the Patriots don't have infinite maneuvering room. Several of our moves (The Randy Moss restructuring in particular) were sub optimal in terms of moving cap space into future years.

As far as Haynesworth goes, the biggest component of his compensation is an option bonus which will be paid out of 2010 dollars. This technique will work well for reducing the size of new contracts, but it won't manufacture additional cap space.

ohhhh, I see --- so, they could essentially give peppers a low money '09 salary, and potential huge signing bonus in '10 that wouldn't count against the '09 cap?

but why would peppers take such a big pay cut in '09 when that '10 signing bonus isn't even locked in?
this would be similar to the stallworth deal, right?

also, would it be possible to abuse the cap w/10 mil in likely to be earned nltbe incentives that get pushed into an uncapped 2010?

 

[tb4u]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

I've already pre-order my jersey!

 

[makoute]

Re: Mike Lynch made it seem deal for Peppers is imminent

Going into a commercial break during the 6 o'clock news he basically said the Pats were getting Peppers. His quote was something like "If you thought what the Pats got for Cassel was not enough, wait til you see what they are turning that into. Dont miss the sportscast." Now I am sure he may embellish it a bit to get people to stick around, but he never said "may" or "could" he made it seem like it was going to happen.

He's just going to repeat what we've heard here. That's how those bastards do things, getting you all extra excited for nothing.

 

[JSn]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

I've already pre-order my jersey!

This one?

 

[tb4u]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

This one?

HAHA! I was kidding. But i should of thought of making a custom jersey haha

 

[JSn]

Re: Mike Lynch made it seem deal for Peppers is imminent

He's just going to repeat what we've heard here. That's how those bastards do things, getting you all extra excited for nothing.

True. I just wish someone would by Mike some frikkin' socks.

 

[JSn]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

HAHA! I was kidding. But i should of thought of making a custom jersey haha

Actually, NFL.com shop won't let you make that one.

 

[patriots pam]

Re: Mike Lynch made it seem deal for Peppers is imminent

and coming up later....14 things in your home that could kill your children RIGHT NOW! Stay tuned...




But yeah, keep us posted, please!




EDIT. Well my post doesn't make sense now as it's out of context from being merged. Just sayin' so I don't appear completely out there!

 

[tb4u]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

Actually, NFL.com shop won't let you make that one.

Photoshop?

 

[Adam Seward]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

I would prefer it to read "Peppuhz" on the back, pretty much that or "Seward".

 

[amazinPats]

re: Carucci: Peppers close to going to NE for #34 (merged 3x)

By the way -- this could also be a Pat leak to put pressure on Jason Taylor's asking price ...

Nah! Taylor would see that we think we can afford someone as pricey as Peppers, and he won't lower his price.