Jets Cut Brett Favre; should the Patriots go after him?

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

BB's opinion, also, I'll wager. BB preferred Gute to every other available vet QB last year, and somehow I doubt he'll sign Favre. #3 will go to the winner of Gute/Hoyer.

That is only because Gute knew the playbook from camp. If Favre starts studying the playbook now......

he might have the title page down by the start of the season.

 

[spacecrime]

Nonsense: The Jets made a run at the playoffs last season, and would likely have been in by 2 games or more had Favre not gotten injured.

Corrected your post for you.

The Jets didn't make the playoffs last year. M Think of "making a run" as winning more than one playoff game, not watching the playoffs on TV after coming in third in the division.

Favre is the reason the Jets did not make the playoffs, and it is because even though for a while he contained himself and played smart, in the end he could not restrain himself and tossed the ball up for grabs time and again.

It wasn't an injury, it was Favre being Favre.

If some team signs Favre and he takes them to the playoffs, I'll admit he is better than I think. Otherwise, let's just acknowledge that he is junk, unwanted and incapable of playing decent ball.

 

[patsfan-1982]

haveing a vet back up is all ways a good thing but lets face it if any one but brady is not starting for us next yer we are not going to win a SB with the WR we have any QB can come in if the D is good this yer and get us 12 wins and a playoff spot but if its not brady then no SB

 

[shmessy]

Nonsense. The Jets made a run at the playoffs last season, and would likely have been in by 2 games or more had Favre not gotten injured.

Please, let me jump on the rephrasing bandwagon here and also try a correction of that statement:

"The Jets made a run AWAY FROM the playoffs last season, and would likely have been in by 2 games or more had THEY KEPT NOODLEARM"

Look, at the choke job they pulled off down the stretch. No team with a spine and a leader does that. Only a team with a QB afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder can take their eye off the ball to start gazing at seagulls.

Watching Favre last year was like watching Bledsoe in the 2001 AFCC against Pittsburgh. For the first five or six series (after subbing for Brady) he keeps within himself and concentrates and doesn't go al wicky wacky. However, you just know that it is building, building, building, until the top all but blows off and you get a behind the back hoook shot just begging for an interception.

Credit to Favre for keeping somewhat smart and within himself for 8 or 9 games last season than Bledsoe could in the end.

 

[Gunnails]

arent the jets hung out to dry if he signs with another team?

Favre is retired, until last night he was still under contract with the Jets for 1 more year at $12 mil, if he was to unretire the Jets would of had another $12 added to there pay roll and would be over the cap, by releasing Favre they eliminate the threat to there salary cap and all the drama that goes with a possible unretirement by Favre.

Favre is no longer under contract to the Jets and the Jets are in a no risk situation if he does come back, and Favre is free to sign with anyone he wants, most likely he would resign with Green Bay and do the Jersey retirement thing.

 

[Deus Irae]

Corrected your post for you.

The Jets didn't make the playoffs last year. M Think of "making a run" as winning more than one playoff game, not watching the playoffs on TV after coming in third in the division.

Favre is the reason the Jets did not make the playoffs, and it is because even though for a while he contained himself and played smart, in the end he could not restrain himself and tossed the ball up for grabs time and again.

It wasn't an injury, it was Favre being Favre.

If some team signs Favre and he takes them to the playoffs, I'll admit he is better than I think. Otherwise, let's just acknowledge that he is junk, unwanted and incapable of playing decent ball.

You made a silly statement. You said a Favre led team would not make a run at the playoffs. They made a run at the playoffs last year. Hell, they were 8-3 before Favre got hurt.

Just admit your mistake and move on. Why make yourself look the fool by continuing further down the road?

 

[aurakilla]

farve could be a leader in the secondary since we lost hobbs


( im kidding)

 

[Deus Irae]

Please, let me jump on the rephrasing bandwagon here and also try a correction of that statement:

"The Jets made a run AWAY FROM the playoffs last season, and would likely have been in by 2 games or more had THEY KEPT NOODLEARM"

Look, at the choke job they pulled off down the stretch. No team with a spine and a leader does that. Only a team with a QB afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder can take their eye off the ball to start gazing at seagulls.

Watching Favre last year was like watching Bledsoe in the 2001 AFCC against Pittsburgh. For the first five or six series (after subbing for Brady) he keeps within himself and concentrates and doesn't go al wicky wacky. However, you just know that it is building, building, building, until the top all but blows off and you get a behind the back hoook shot just begging for an interception.

Credit to Favre for keeping somewhat smart and within himself for 8 or 9 games last season than Bledsoe could in the end.

I'm not going to go into this for page after page again. I'll just say this. When a QB hurts his throwing arm, it should come as no surprise that he struggles. The injury was bad enough that the team wanted him to get surgery on it right after the season.

If the same thing happens to Brady this season, about 85% of Patriots fans will use his arm as an excuse, 10% will blame it on his knee, 4% will say that he's washed up and should be traded for 15 first round picks before other teams figure it out, and 1% will insist that they never liked Brady and always thought he was a system quarterback who'd come crashing down to earth.

People should note that Favre's move last season improved both the Jets and the Dolphins. The one team that was not improved was Favre's old team, and all the rationalizing and scapegoating in the world isn't going to change that fact.

 

[Gwedd]

Please, let me jump on the rephrasing bandwagon here and also try a correction of that statement:

"The Jets made a run AWAY FROM the playoffs last season, and would likely have been in by 2 games or more had THEY KEPT NOODLEARM"

Look, at the choke job they pulled off down the stretch. No team with a spine and a leader does that. Only a team with a QB afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder can take their eye off the ball to start gazing at seagulls.

Watching Favre last year was like watching Bledsoe in the 2001 AFCC against Pittsburgh. For the first five or six series (after subbing for Brady) he keeps within himself and concentrates and doesn't go al wicky wacky. However, you just know that it is building, building, building, until the top all but blows off and you get a behind the back hoook shot just begging for an interception.

Credit to Favre for keeping somewhat smart and within himself for 8 or 9 games last season than Bledsoe could in the end.

Hell, all of that was predicted by Nostradamus..

IV century
45 quatrain:
----------------------------------------------
Through conflict a King will abandon his realm:
The greatest chief will fail in time of need:
Dead, ruined few will escape it,
All cut up, one will be a witness to it.
---------------------------------------------

I mean, really, how predictable is Favre if a guy who died 600 years ago can foresee his career?

 

[shmessy]

If the same thing happens to Brady this season, about 85% of Patriots fans will use his arm as an excuse, 10% will blame it on his knee, 4% will say that he's washed up and should be traded for 15 first round picks before other teams figure it out, and 1% will insist that they never liked Brady and always thought he was a system quarterback who'd come crashing down to earth.

How many would blame it on his brain and his decision-making?

 

[Brettlax3434]

Why not just trade a first round pick next year for P. Manning? hes a better backup then Favre!!!!!!!!!

 

[shmessy]

I'm not going to go into this for page after page again. I'll just say this. When a QB hurts his throwing arm, it should come as no surprise that he struggles. The injury was bad enough that the team wanted him to get surgery on it right after the season.

If the same thing happens to Brady this season, about 85% of Patriots fans will use his arm as an excuse, 10% will blame it on his knee, 4% will say that he's washed up and should be traded for 15 first round picks before other teams figure it out, and 1% will insist that they never liked Brady and always thought he was a system quarterback who'd come crashing down to earth.

People should note that Favre's move last season improved both the Jets and the Dolphins. The one team that was not improved was Favre's old team, and all the rationalizing and scapegoating in the world isn't going to change that fact.

Further, he is not a fit for the Patriots.

he is a fit for a team where he can bully a head coach into keeping him on the field even when, in your opinion, his injury diminishes his performance.

Favre is all about Favre. He demolished the Green Bay organization for the previous 5 years with his selfish Hamlet performances every offseason and he demolished the Jets chances down the stretch last year because the gutless, spineless coach there couldn't stand up to benching him when YOU say his injury diminished his performance.

He needs to find a Herm Edwards or an a Dan Snyder to feed his ego while throwing his team under the Brett Bus.

The trash bin is filled with QBs that have million dollar arms and ten cent brains. For the middle ten years of his career, he made up for his ten cent brain with a BILLION dollar arm. Now it's just a MILLION dollar arm and the bad brain outweighs it.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

You made a silly statement. You said a Favre led team would not make a run at the playoffs. They made a run at the playoffs last year. Hell, they were 8-3 before Favre got hurt.

Just admit your mistake and move one. Why make yourself look the fool by continuing further down the road?

You're doing it again. Starting a pissing match because the majority of fans here don't see Favre as you do, as the great QB who is totally misunderstood underappreciated. They see him as the headstrong guy who could never run a system that wasn't predicated on his laser rocket arm and plays drawn up in the dirt or pulled out of his ass.

They were in fact making that run AWAY from the playoffs when Mangini was captured on classic NFL film repeatedly screaming into his mouthpiece on one of the last Sundays of his career as a HC of the NYJ..."Who is he throwing to??..."What is he doing??"... and my favorite "What the F*** was that??".

I watched most of his JETS games and they actually won a couple in spite of him. While the coaching staff was eviscerated for not handing the offense over to him in early losses. That is what he does to a franchise. Makes it impossible to run a sytem offense beyond one that improvises based on his performance. Which was why thet wanted to move on in GB even coming off a second round playoff season.

 

[Deus Irae]

Further, he is not a fit for the Patriots.

he is a fit for a team where he can bully a head coach into keeping him on the field even when, in your opinion, his injury diminishes his performance.

Favre is all about Favre. He demolished the Green Bay organization for the previous 5 years with his selfish Hamlet performances every offseason and he demolished the Jets chances down the stretch last year because the gutless, spineless coach there couldn't stand up to benching him when YOU say his injury diminished his performance.

He needs to find a Herm Edwards or an a Dan Snyder to feed his ego while throwing his team under the Brett Bus.

The trash bin is filled with QBs that have million dollar arms and ten cent brains. For the middle ten years of his career, he made up for his ten cent brain with a BILLION dollar arm. Now it's just a MILLION dollar arm and the bad brain outweighs it.

I never said that the Patriots should sign him, and I wasn't pimping Favre. I responded to a post by someone who wasn't being honest/fair about the guy. As has been the case all too often on this board in the past year, that's enough for people to attack the one making the correction rather than for people to simply say "true" and move on with the accurate information in the lexicon. The Favre stuff is the idiotic extreme, but it's happening on topic after topic.

Whether people like it or not, the Jets did make a playoff run. They missed out on the last week of the season.

 

[Deus Irae]

You're doing it again. Starting a pissing match because the majority of fans here don't see Favre as you do, as the great QB who is totally misunderstood underappreciated. They see him as the headstrong guy who could never run a system that wasn't predicated on his laser rocket arm and plays drawn up in the dirt or pulled out of his ass.

They were in fact making that run AWAY from the playoffs when Mangini was captured on classic NFL film repeatedly screaming into his mouthpiece on one of the last Sundays of his career as a HC of the NYJ..."Who is he throwing to??..."What is he doing??"... and my favorite "What the F*** was that??".

I watched most of his JETS games and they actually won a couple in spite of him. While the coaching staff was eviscerated for not handing the offense over to him in early losses. That is what he does to a franchise. Makes it impossible to run a sytem offense beyond one that improvises based on his performance. Which was why thet wanted to move on in GB even coming off a second round playoff season.

I hope things get better for you soon, because I miss the quality poster you used to be. You were one of the very best here, and I look forward to you becoming one of the very best again.

 

[Tunescribe]

Tom Brady would want to talk to a QB who actually watches game film, not some attention deficit disorder guy fixated on who is the going to be the network sideline reporter that day.

Or a guy who ponders whether God farts. Too bad Favre is no longer a Green Bean. He would've been an influence on Sanchez (to our benefit).

 

[dhamz]

And here I thought this thread was supposed to be a lighthearted joking kind of thread.

 

[Rob0729]

Nonsense. The Jets made a run at the playoffs last season, and would likely have been in by 2 games or more had Favre not gotten injured.

I'm sorry, I still think his injury is just an excuse for his poor play last year. Especially since Favre wrapped himself in his reputation that he could play at a high level no matter what injury he has had. He made a lot of stupid passes that had nothing to do with his injury.

Favre had a wildily up and down season last year and had as many bad games in the first half of the season as he had in the last month. He was able to pad his stats in a few like the Chargers game where he played like crap until the game was out of hand, but overall he wasn't all that good last year.

Favre was a HOF QB. Last year he was average at best and other than a few great games and couple of good ones, he wasn't even good enough to be average.

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

And here I thought this thread was supposed to be a lighthearted joking kind of thread.

that was the orginal intent.

 

[shmessy]

Whether people like it or not, the Jets did make a playoff run. They missed out on the last week of the season.

No. They took a DIVE the last week of the season.

They "missed out" on the West Coast in the few weeks before the end of the season.

That's a playoff "run" where the runner who is in the lead at Cleveland Circle takes a wrong turn, gives up the lead and then quits before reaching Hereford Street.