Originally Posted by PATSNUTme

He's been dead to me for a long time. The only time I get to see his nonsense is when someone "quotes" him or in this case somone calling him out in a thread title. Starting a thread calling someone out is ususally frowned upon under the forum rules, but in this case it doesn't seem personal.

But a fast track to the Vistiing Locker Room flame forum could be in this threads future.

Originally Posted by NYCPatsFan

Please don't move this thread!! Dumbos like me can rely on such an excellent writeup that proves how the Pats shut up and play irrespective of the injuries whereas other teams moan and groan.

Maybe the thread title can be edited to remove the name and avoid any breaking of the forum rules?

Thanks,

Originally Posted by godef

Don't think I broke any rules. Anything that He Ban Me finds insulting is strictly contained within his own point of view. I posted in the main forum because all his remarks are found in responses to other threads in the main room.

Originally Posted by godef

Hey He Ban Me, how incredibly stubborn you are, insisting in various threads (this one in particular) that the Colts are still #1. Allow me to explain a few things to you.

You see, a few years ago the Patriots faced the Colts in the play-offs without two premier defenders at the time: Ty Law and Richard Seymour. Not to mention Tyrone Poole. The results? The Colts still could not win; the Pats held them to 3 measely points, totally dominated the 2nd half. Then they went on to win the championship in Pittsburgh, still without Law and Seymour.

During the regular season that same year, the Pats played stretches of games without their #1 receiver at the time, Deion Branch. How did they respond? They kept winning.

In fact, in 2003 and 2004, they Patriots broke records for "man games" lost due to injury while still managing winning records. And we're not talking about 9-7, we're talking about 14-2 each season. Including the longest winning streak in NFL history.

Last season in the AFCC, despite missing Rodney and Junior, and in a hostile stadium, we came up only a minute short of a return to the Super Bowl.

But now when the Colts lose some players to injuries, what happens to them? Besides all the whining, that is?

Sanders goes down last year, and suddenly the run defense SUCKS. The worse in NFL history.

They lose a couple of receivers this year, and suddenly Peyton Manning SUCKS. 6 interceptions IN ONE GAME!

Does a pattern begin to emerge here? On top of everything else, what makes the Patriots the better team is their DEPTH. On the other hand, the Colts have no DEPTH. We lose a few "key" players, but the machine rolls on; perhaps we lose a game, but we win many more. But the Colts, the flashy machine they are when they're healthy, if they lose a few key players, it all grinds to a screeching halt. Consecutive losses. The football world now sees what a fragile, shallow team the Colts really are.

Injuries are part of the game, get used to it. The better teams have the DEPTH to help absorb such injuries. Which makes the Patriots hands down the better team than the Colts. The Colts always wear down as the season goes on, starting their seasons undefeated, but crawling into the postseason. In contrast, the Patriots always gain steam as a season rolls on (which should really be scaring a few folks as this current season unfolds).

And two weeks ago, the Patriots marched into Indy, and despite the noise and the heat and the fouling officials, they beat the Colts. Yes, you're right, in a lot of ways, the Colts did beat themselves: by madly rushing Tom Brady and disrupting his game, they ultimately paid the price when they ran out of gas in the 4th quarter, at which time the Pats were able to assert their dominance. There's that depth thing again.

The Patriots are undisputed #1, not just because the Colts were riddled with injuries, but because they did not have the depth to cover for those injuries and defend their house (and eventually, their championship). For you to deny that the Pats are #1 is nothing but sheer obstinance.

Originally Posted by godef

Hey He Ban Me, how incredibly stubborn you are, insisting in various threads (this one in particular) that the Colts are still #1. Allow me to explain a few things to you.

You see, a few years ago the Patriots faced the Colts in the play-offs without two premier defenders at the time: Ty Law and Richard Seymour. Not to mention Tyrone Poole. The results? The Colts still could not win; the Pats held them to 3 measely points, totally dominated the 2nd half. Then they went on to win the championship in Pittsburgh, still without Law and Seymour.

During the regular season that same year, the Pats played stretches of games without their #1 receiver at the time, Deion Branch. How did they respond? They kept winning.

In fact, in 2003 and 2004, they Patriots broke records for "man games" lost due to injury while still managing winning records. And we're not talking about 9-7, we're talking about 14-2 each season. Including the longest winning streak in NFL history.

Last season in the AFCC, despite missing Rodney and Junior, and in a hostile stadium, we came up only a minute short of a return to the Super Bowl.

But now when the Colts lose some players to injuries, what happens to them? Besides all the whining, that is?

Sanders goes down last year, and suddenly the run defense SUCKS. The worse in NFL history.

They lose a couple of receivers this year, and suddenly Peyton Manning SUCKS. 6 interceptions IN ONE GAME!

Does a pattern begin to emerge here? On top of everything else, what makes the Patriots the better team is their DEPTH. On the other hand, the Colts have no DEPTH. We lose a few "key" players, but the machine rolls on; perhaps we lose a game, but we win many more. But the Colts, the flashy machine they are when they're healthy, if they lose a few key players, it all grinds to a screeching halt. Consecutive losses. The football world now sees what a fragile, shallow team the Colts really are.

Injuries are part of the game, get used to it. The better teams have the DEPTH to help absorb such injuries. Which makes the Patriots hands down the better team than the Colts. The Colts always wear down as the season goes on, starting their seasons undefeated, but crawling into the postseason. In contrast, the Patriots always gain steam as a season rolls on (which should really be scaring a few folks as this current season unfolds).

And two weeks ago, the Patriots marched into Indy, and despite the noise and the heat and the fouling officials, they beat the Colts. Yes, you're right, in a lot of ways, the Colts did beat themselves: by madly rushing Tom Brady and disrupting his game, they ultimately paid the price when they ran out of gas in the 4th quarter, at which time the Pats were able to assert their dominance. There's that depth thing again.

The Patriots are undisputed #1, not just because the Colts were riddled with injuries, but because they did not have the depth to cover for those injuries and defend their house (and eventually, their championship). For you to deny that the Pats are #1 is nothing but sheer obstinance.

Originally Posted by He Ban Me

Trick question


The Patriots are.

Originally Posted by Tunescribe

He Ban Me might be busy working with consultants and the Indianapolis Billboard Company on the new advertising campaign being developed for display on Peyton's forehead.

Originally Posted by NYCPatsFan

Please don't move this thread!! Dumbos like me can rely on such an excellent writeup that proves how the Pats shut up and play irrespective of the injuries whereas other teams moan and groan.

Maybe the thread title can be edited to remove the name and avoid any breaking of the forum rules?

Thanks,

Originally Posted by He Ban Me

No problem guys. It has already been made perfectly clear to me, IN WRITING, that the rules here are different for "Patsfans" versus opposing teams' fans.