I hear you. Like I said, some of you guys are welcome to come back any time.

The way I approach football is that I am grateful for all of our team's success, and I don't try to mess with karma. I will never go and predict a Pats playoff victory here or elsewhere. I have so much respect for the teams we play, and I think this weekend will be a huge struggle for the Pats. I don't know enough about the Chargers to really say anything intelligent about them, so I ain't gonna do any bragging before the game.

Superficially, I can say that we are usually good against the run, and I think some of your back-up WRs will have a huge game since we will concentrate on Gates and LT.

I also believe we will pick up the pass rush better than some of the trolls here expect, because we are going to be playing 'scared' just a bit. The Pats do better when they 'fear' the opponent a little, it keeps them on their toes. It keeps them focused in practice.

The pats do well on the road this year.

But I honestly think the real key to the game is if Brady's skill players get open. All Brady's supposed struggles and turn overs this year have been due to his new group of skill players trying to get assimiliated.

Frankly, our defense is #2 in points allowed and solid against the run. That will count for something, I hope. Will Brady's skill players be able to make plays against your defense, which is not ranked as high in points allowed???? I don't honestly know the answer to that. And stats are only worth so much in a grudge match like this game. It will be tough for us to pull off.

Hey, I'm all for good trash talking, but you gotta draw the line at troll crap. Some jacka** in the other thread was spouting off racist diatribes. Sure, any fanbase is going to have their jackasses, it just feels like they all decided to register on patfans all at once.

It would never, ever even cross my mind to consider even thinking about the possibility of registering on a fan site for another team for the sole purpose of trolling. If you're coming for some good-natured trash talking, some debate, that's all good. But why sign up just to be a troll?

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That's exactly right. We talk about stats when it comes to the Chargers, because for a lot of us, that is all we see. And this game won't be about the stats at all. It will be a lot tougher than that.

I don't really know what to expect, because the stats book is likely to get thrown right out the window in this game. I think we will give up a lot of points, so I wonder how much we will score, and I think that will likely be the key to the game.

Speak of the devil!

And he has graced us with some more of his in depth analysis.

Apparently they are a dynasty now!

PatsFans.com was linked over at the Chargers official website's message forum immediately after the Jets game. They are censored over there if they criticize the Chargers organization/NFL because the SD org. runs the forum. How lame. God bless third party, independent, fan sites like PatsFans.

To troll them back, go here: http://forums.chargers.com/

i miss pittsburg, indy, ny, and miami fans. at least those guys don't think that sacks and pro bowls are more important than points allowed and superbowls. i'm starting to think it isn't even worth trying to figure out the decent ones.

no group will ever be more obnoxious than yankees fans though

*edit* i've started ignore-listing them left and right. i ask that you all do the same. or just exercise restraint and not respond

I never hear from them until this week. Were have they been the last 10 years or so?

I love all the Ron Burgundy quotes. But, I have witnessed the putrid display of San Diego fans. And they were the women, nonetheless. I went to the Pats game three years ago in San Diego. Drove down from Los Angeles county and brought my 70+ year old father in law with me (2 1/2 hour drive). He is born and raised in SoCal but a sports fan and roots for my teams as long as they are not playing his LA teams. Great guy. We were in a suite at the stadium. Good game. Great time. After the game it was completely different.

I had my #12 jersey on an my father in law borrowed a Pats hat. We were walking out after LT ran all over us. Saying nothing, we were yelled at, screamed at and physicall threatened...one skank even rushed my father in law...by some "classy" women San Diego Charger fans. I mean, they were threatening a 70 year old guy simply because he was supporting his son in law. It was a disgusting display.

Since that time I had lost all respect for San Diego fans. The past 36 hours have confirmed what pathetic ingrates they truly are. I have bounced around this board and seen racist remarks, sexist remarks and just plain idiotic posts from fans of "the greatest team ever". I am a huge Pats fan and thought this game would be a big challenge for us. I think it will be close but LT and Gates will be a bit too much. God, I hope I am wrong. The Charger fans show no respect and/or class on this site. All they can say is "Brady is a homo", "Patriots suck" and the Chargers are the "Greatest team ever assembled".

They are all just a bunch of children and I hope we can go in there and smack them in the mouth.

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Like I said... I get it.. I totally understand running to the stat sheets to explain when you have nothing else to go on.

Sometimes the stat sheet can explain a lot, sometimes it can hide deficiencies, and sometimes it can just straight up lie though.

Hopefully you can get a better understanding of the Chargers through some of the input from some of the logical Chargers fans posting here, just like we can get some valuable information from the logical Pats fans posting here.

One thing I do know right now, is it should be a great game. My heart is obviously with the Bolts, but I would have a hard time putting a ton of money on them.

Either way... we both can't win, so if your team pulls it off, good luck with the rest of your season. If you don't win, hopefully you can express the same.

As a bunch of others, seemingly classy Charger fans have posted before me, I ask you all not to judge us by (regrettably) many idiots that have shown up here since the end of the Jets game.

Nobody hopes more than I do that, as the game gets closer, those losers start to get bored with the trash talk and move on - leaving those who came her simply to talk football, like myself, to do what we intended.

If you guys are interested in what is probably the best Chargers board on the net, check out : http://www.thenflforum.com/vbulletin...splay.php?f=56

A lot of classy, knowledgable guys over there who'll be more respectful than some who've shown up here.

Here's to being able to talk football in a civil manner for the next week. Try to ignore the idiots, every fan base has their bunch.