Zay Flowers to NE “worst kept secret in the league”

[PowerRunRevival]

I have subjected myself to BC football for years. Since Matt Ryan it’s been an endless string of bum QB’s and horrendous passing games. In twenty plus years I have never seen a receiver there do anything of value. In fact I couldn’t name any.

The fact that Flowers is so talented and succeeds with a bad QB, even at a college level is a good sign. I don’t love his size but the skill is there.

Alex Amidon wants a word! He’s the single season receiving yards record holder.

I do agree with your point though. BC has never had a good passing game. Last year the receivers might have been the best ever at BC but the line was the worst I can remember since I’ve been a fan and not once all season did Jurkevic throw with anticipation.

I can’t stress enough how impressive Zay was this season with trash players all around him.

 

[JMC00]

A smurf WR in the first…. god help us… no.

Same height as Tyreek Hill.

Trade back in the first…

Darnell Washington no matter what. Give me an offensive lineman who is also a WR. Gronk 2.0

People mentioning Gronk in the same sentence as Darnell Washington is absolutely laughable.

 

[JMC00]

People saying trade back to the 20s to take him. Flowers isn't making it out of the teens. Some team in the 20s with WR need will jump to get him.
Wouldn't surprise me if a decent amount of teams have him as the 1 or 2 WR on their board.

 

[Love The Drake]

I really like the middle rounds for grabbing 2 wrs

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

I really like the middle rounds for grabbing 2 wrs

Hopefully with better results than Dobson and Boyce.

 

[Love The Drake]

Ok here are my WRs for us

JSN
Flowers
Dell
Rice
Andrei
Mingo
Wheaton

My dream Would be to get 2 of JSN, Flowers, Dell.

Dell has shades of Steve Smith
Flowers reminds me a slightly slower Tyreek Hill
JSN has top 10 ability easily.

 

[StrawHatPatriot]

Hate to be a Debby downer, but I hope this isn't another AJ Brown/Deebo Samuel situation

 

[PowerRunRevival]

I really like the middle rounds for grabbing 2 wrs

If they don’t trade back in the first and can’t get downs in the second I completely agree. Two receivers (one outside one slot) in the third and 4th. Wouldn’t mind a TE in that range either.

 

[Grogan14]

Same height as Tyreek Hill.




People mentioning Gronk in the same sentence as Darnell Washington is absolutely laughable.

same height as Tyreek, but Tyreek is built like a tank and is much much faster.

I think 14 is way too high to choose Flowers

 

[Patsgofor4]

same height as Tyreek, but Tyreek is built like a tank and is much much faster.

I think 14 is way too high to choose Flowers

Tyreek is a tank for sure but he wasn’t as muscular as a rookie:


Flowers is already by no means skinny:

Looks like an NFL-ready body to me (traps upon traps) and looks very similar in terms of muscle mass to Hill in that 2017 photo above (drafted in 2016).

 

[Wozzy]

Same height as Tyreek Hill.

If I hold up Tyreek Hill’s measurables to Flowers you’ll see the stark difference. He’s a good little prospect but not the athlete that Tyreek is.

Oh yeah… and Tyreek was a 5th round pick.

People mentioning Gronk in the same sentence as Darnell Washington is absolutely laughable.

There’s zero guarantee involved in draft picks regardless of round or pedigree. Any one of them could bust for a number of reasons beyond athleticism. It doesn’t mean you stop drafting players. College is the only pool to draw young football talent from.

Washington is a similar size, weight and athlete to Gronk. He doesn’t have to match Gronk’s production to become a good player. This kid has unique size and athleticism, similar to Gronk or OJ Howard… so he could become either. It doesn’t mean you don’t try.

I trust the team that interviewed, drafted and developed Gronk to get it right.

 

[Steve102]

 

[Wozzy]

Zay Flowers
5-9 182 lbs
4.42 Forty
35.5” Vertical
127” Broad
No shuttle, no cone

Tyreek Hill
5-8 185 lbs
4.29 Forty
40.5” Vertical
129” Broad
4.06 Shuttle
6.53 Cone

Not the same…

Tyreek’s speed, explosion and agility are superhuman. If Flowers had similar athleticism I’d be banging the table to take him at 14… he doesn’t.

 

[Love The Drake]

Flowers
Dell
Would add a lot of toughness to this team.
I don’t care about their height.
Also don’t sleep on the wr from Princeton kid is athletic and makes very tough contested catches and uses his hands to pluck the ball.

 

[Love The Drake]

Rashee Rice they say his ceiling is a 2 but I see a less athletic version of AJ Brown.
Kid makes very tough catches and has incredible body control.
However JSN is different and if he is there at 14 you have to pull that trigger.
Kid is different.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

The way it usually goes is this:

1. 1) The Patriots trade down from 14 and hope that their guy is there at 20.
2. 2) Some other team jumps in and takes their guy.
3. 3) The Patriots are in a quandary since there is no one available that they rate as 20-worthy.
4. 4) The Patriots try to trade down again and cannot find any partners.
5. 5) The Patriots panic and make a reach for someone like Cole Strange.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Nagy knows what he's talking about. I always listen to him even though I usually have the same names. He's a character but great for football and is absolutely plugged in.

Listen to Bacon and uncle Jim.

 

[Wozzy]

The way it usually goes is this:

1. 1) The Patriots trade down from 14 and hope that their guy is there at 20.
2. 2) Some other team jumps in and takes their guy.
3. 3) The Patriots are in a quandary since there is no one available that they rate as 20-worthy.
4. 4) The Patriots try to trade down again and cannot find any partners.
5. 5) The Patriots panic and make a reach for someone like Cole Strange.

How do I get tickets into the Patriots draft war room so I can see their draft board and watch the inner workings with you?

Do they have a buffet, serve popcorn and beers or should I bring snacks?

Absurd…

 

[Love The Drake]

Listen to Bacon and uncle Jim.

I think Mid rounds is the sweet spot for WRs.

I am kind of thinking we can back to back corners with all the wr talent in the AFC East we need corners to keep them in check.

 

[Wozzy]

Listen to Bacon and uncle Jim.]

Give me Bryce Ford Wheaton in the 3rd or 4th instead. Kids got superstar potential and you don’t have to reach for him.