Your season grade for Maye

[BobDigital]

OK on the first 11, although Herbert with good coaching will likely find his way up the list. He is indeed a superstar.

So, Maye was the best of all the rookie QB's? and presumably is expected to be better than all but these 11 next year?
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I find it extremely patriot-centric to believe that Maye was or will be better than all the QB's from the last two years, in 2024 or 2025.
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To be clear, I wanted us to draft Maye (no-brainer) and I believe that he will lead us to Super Bowls. However, to believe that he is close to say Jaden in 2024 or 2025 makes little sense to me.

CONGRATS to AVP, McCarthy and McAdoo!!! Maye wasn't nearly ready to start the season, and certainly not with our OL and WR's. Where Maye is today is a minor miracle given the situation during 2024. That being said, Maye has a long way to go. A top mentor in 2025 will help a lot over the next several months going into Game One of the 2025 season. Coaching is critical. Poor coaching leads, well we know what it leads to.

I don't think I'll said he'll be better than these 11 guys. I hope he surpasses a few and doesn't regress. Yes I think all things considered he was the best rookie QB this year. I just didn't list the other rookies. Some where close to him, some not so much.

My hope was next year Maye goes from the 3rd tier where he is right now to the 2nd tier. If he goes to the 1st tier that be amazing but it is a lot to ask considering how raw he is.

As for Herbert he is floating by on hype right now and his results early with a incredibly good cast. I put him at the top of the 2nd tier for a reason, but I think his entire body of work has not been impressive enough to put him with the bigger dogs in the league. Even the lower end of them. There is lots of reasons for The Charges to be concerned of where he is at this point in his development.

 

[mgteich]

I don't think I'll said he'll be better than these 11 guys. I hope he surpasses a few and doesn't regress. Yes I think all things considered he was the best rookie QB this year. I just didn't list the other rookies. Some where close to him, some not so much.

My hope was next year Maye goes from the 3rd tier where he is right now to the 2nd tier. If he goes to the 1st tier that be amazing but it is a lot to ask considering how raw he is.

As for Herbert he is floating by on hype right now and his results early with a incredibly good cast. I put him at the top of the 2nd tier for a reason, but I think his entire body of work has not been impressive enough to put him with the bigger dogs in the league. Even the lower end of them. There is lots of reasons for The Charges to be concerned of where he is at this point in his development.

I disagree with your assertion that Maye was better this year than all the other rookie quarterbacks.

 

[jdlboot14]

Maye needs to work on accuracy - consistent accuracy.
And reducing the bad turnovers - some easy INT's and sack/fumbles.

If he does that, and improves on assumed 2nd year stuff, he can be every bit as good as Daniels & Nix...
who excelled due to FAAAAAR better coaching and surrounding talent.

 

[yukon cornelius]

I disagree with your assertion that Maye was better this year than all the other rookie quarterbacks.

i'd say he showed the highest upside out of all the rookie QBs.....he has the best skillset to be an elite QB in this league.......with a couple (nix, daniels) - while they should/could improve with experience, they have a lot less distance between what they are and what they will/could be.......there's a lot of what you see is what you get.......i think with a year of tape on them, you won't see anywhere near as steep an improvement curve with them next year as you'll see with maye......in fact, i wouldn't be surprised to see one or both of them take a step back next year, a la cj stroud

maye did the most with the least out of all the rookies, and showed the greatest upside imho

redraft 2024 today and maye is the 2 pick, is QB2

redraft after next year and moving forward, I think maye ends up being the best QB taken in 2024*








*as long as this org doesn't mac jones him

 

[mgteich]

Maye needs to work on accuracy - consistent accuracy.
And reducing the bad turnovers - some easy INT's and sack/fumbles.

If he does that, and improves on assumed 2nd year stuff, he can be every bit as good as Daniels & Nix...
who excelled due to FAAAAAR better coaching and surrounding talent.

And Daniels and Nix will continue to improve.

I strongly disagree with you implication that Maye had poor quarterback coaching. QB development was the major success story of the 2024 team. The team hired three coaches to work with Maye and Milton. AVP, McCarthy and McAdoo did that job very well. Both Maye and Milton improved greatly from how they performed in Training Camp.

 

[mgteich]

*as long as this org doesn't mac jones him

this!!!

 

[yukon cornelius]

And Daniels and Nix will continue to improve.

I strongly disagree with you implication that Maye had poor quarterback coaching. QB development was the major success story of the 2024 team. The team hired three coaches to work with Maye and Milton. AVP, McCarthy and McAdoo did that job very well. Both Maye and Milton improved greatly from how they performed in Training Camp.

they will continue to improve, yes.......but like i said above, i think their curve is shallower, and their ceiling lower......honestly i expect one of them at least to stagnate in 2025, maybe even a little step back

 

[archstanton543]

C.

Too many game losing INT's. Is allergic to throwing the ball away. Doesn't slide early enough.

Has some jaw-dropping throws for sure but needs more seasoning.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

While it is fair that he needs to refine his accuracy and learn to throw the ball away sooner, Maye's #1 area for improvement is learning to protect himself better.

 

[p8ryts]

While it is fair that he needs to refine his accuracy and learn to throw the ball away sooner, Maye's #1 area for improvement is learning to protect himself better.

I think his #1 is to overcome hurrying the throw in the second half, primarily 4th quarter, when he has been under duress. He wastes plays and catches as a result, he needs to take the extra tic or two.

 

[yukon cornelius]

B for his performance - the things he did well looked very good, and the improvement he showed over college and camp was impressive - some of the throws he made this year place him in the upper tier talent wise in the league

A if we grade on a curve, relative to his situation


I think some of what we saw, throwing into some questionable coverages, some of his TO's, were simply due to the lack of talent around him........more than the Bledsoe-ian hubris of always thinking he can make the throw, the more I hear the kid speak, the more I think he just at times tried too hard, because he felt he was out there alone, so to speak, and HAD to make things happen simply because no one else was going to.....surround him with some more people he has confidence in, i think some of those go away - he was victimized by what, 3-4 INTs that were tipped balls that were decent throws, too

the sack/fumbles are likely some of the same......again, if they can actually block a little better, and have some more playmakers, than the weight of the world isn't on the kid, and he's more comfortable throwing the ball away or even eating a sack......some of it was likely due to being a rookie without the vet pocket awareness, but that kid was on an island within this offense, and with that defense, he knew if they didn't score every possession it was likely an L

turnovers weren't a concern simply because there's not enough real and actual evidence to point to it being a valid issue; just like you can't place much stock into Milton's performance against mostly Buffalo 3rd stringers, I am not sure I can place much stock into Maye's turnovers with the team that surrounded him on both sides of the ball

 

[TommyD4207]

B, most of that is considering he had 5 traffic cones for an offensive line.

10 INT and 9 fumbles in parts of 13 games is Mac Jones territory, that needs fixing.
Also won all of one game he started and finished.
There's a lot to like, but it's fair to be realistic as well.

 

[FCB02062]

It was funny listening to that ****ing hunchback weirdo James Stewart on 98.5 trying to set the narrative, basically, that Maye sucks. That schtick (**** on the starting qb) worked for years on that ****ing channel - remember "Brady in decline"? Remember Tony Mazz wanting to stick with Jimmy G? I know this is a Maye thread, but the idiots on 98.5 are fading into irrelevancy, just like the local football franchise.

 

[mgteich]

BOTTOM LINE
I think that Maye was a below average QB this season in terms of performance. I think that more QB's were better than were worse than Maye. And I'm 100% OK with that. He did his job. The coaches did their job. With more improvement before Game 1, Maye will be ready to be a competitive QB in 2025.
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I suspect that the grade depends a lot on the poster's age.

For example, I suspect that for many, C is a terrible grade. For others, it is average.

Also, are we rating performance, or stats compared to what we think would be good given the situation, you know, like giving an B to student to encourage him because he has deficiencies of some sort.

If Maye was the 14th best QB in the NFL this year, what should he get? Someone listed the top 11 easily. I would add at least Nix and Jaden.
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Should he be only judged against rookies?
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Personally, I don't think that Maye's performance was equal to that of any average QB. I don't think that his performance was better than say 15-17 QB's.

And, personally, I think that if he played as much as Nix and Jaden, he would have a much higher percentage of interceptions, fumbles and sacks than if we waited, as we did.
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Another question for the playoff teams, would you want your QB or someone with Maye's CURRENT skill set? We might add this question to those teams who were knocked out in the past two weeks.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Never scored more than 24 points in a game, didn’t get to 20 points in most of them!

Two concussions already in 11 games.

I’m just not seeing “it”

 

[mgteich]

B, most of that is considering he had 5 traffic cones for an offensive line.

10 INT and 9 fumbles in parts of 13 games is Mac Jones territory, that needs fixing.
Also won all of one game he started and finished.
There's a lot to like, but it's fair to be realistic as well.

Mac Jones territory?

What rating would you give a rookie QB with a passer rating of 92.5, 22 TS's and 13 INT's?

What rating would you give a rookie QB with a passer rating of 88.1, 15 TD's, and 10 INT's?

 

[VJCPatriot]

What grade would you give Drake Maye for his rookie season? Since the last game is irrelevant we can probably do this poll now.

I gave him a B. He showed flashes of promise and high end talent. He obviously doesn't have a lot to work with. Give him a good OL and decent weapons and then hopefully we see him really shine.

Our new choice of HC and OC will greatly influence his future.

Still hoping for a new GM hire, not convinced Wolf should be the one picking groceries after he came up goose egg in rounds 2 and later of the 2024 draft.

 

[PatMan]

15 TDs
10 Ints
9 Fumbles
Record... 1-9

I actually like Maye a lot... But I don't know how you give him a passing grade for this season. For all his talent, Jacobi freaking Brisset won more games than him.

Maybe it's the fault of the o-line, receivers, running backs, head coach, defense, owners, media, fans, coordinators, whoever...

But if you cough the ball up twice a game you're going to have a hard time winning in the NFL.

I hope to God I'm giving him an A+ this time next year.

 

[sb1]

15 TDs
10 Ints
9 Fumbles
Record... 1-9

I actually like Maye a lot... But I don't know how you give him a passing grade for this season. For all his talent, Jacobi freaking Brisset won more games than him.

Maybe it's the fault of the o-line, receivers, running backs, head coach, defense, owners, media, fans, coordinators, whoever...

But if you cough the ball up twice a game you're going to have a hard time winning in the NFL.

I hope to God I'm giving him an A+ this time next year.

I’m not that concerned about ints as a rookie. Peyton Manning threw a ton of them when he was a rookie. It’s all about learning what you can and can’t get away with as an NFL passer. With that said he should know when to take the L on the play rather than playing hero ball.

The fumbles are a different story I think there’s a flaw on his tape being exploited by teams that he’s not protecting the ball when he gets sacked or tackled. A good coach next year will hopefully work with him to fix it.

 

[mgteich]

15 TDs
10 Ints
9 Fumbles
Record... 1-9

I actually like Maye a lot... But I don't know how you give him a passing grade for this season. For all his talent, Jacobi freaking Brisset won more games than him.

Maybe it's the fault of the o-line, receivers, running backs, head coach, defense, owners, media, fans, coordinators, whoever...

But if you cough the ball up twice a game you're going to have a hard time winning in the NFL.

I hope to God I'm giving him an A+ this time next year.

Stats mean nothing. It is all about hope we feel.