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Would you trade Gronk for a 1st round pick, this offseason?

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No. I still love the guy. I don't think anyone's giving us one anyway, with his health history.
 
No. I still love the guy. I don't think anyone's giving us one anyway, with his health history.

The fact that he's such an incredibly precious character is just icing on the cake with Gronk. He's the most dominant player ever too.
 
Depends on the pick. If top 3 then yes.

At this point Gronk he what he is. When healthy he is the best TE to ever play the game but you can't ask him to play a full season. It just won't work. You either need to pay him a bunch (after this year) and keep him on a snap count or you except you are paying 10+ M for 10 or so games and hope they are in the playoffs which seems less likely than likely.

I think Gronk takes this offense to another level when in there and healthy. He is the most unstoppable player i have ever seen play and maybe the best football player ever when 100% healthy from a positional domination stand point.

I believe games played is a highly underrated stat. You need to take risk to get top talent when you are the Patriots and i would hate to let one of the guys who worked out go. However I don't like the idea of trading Gronk for 1 guy. You take that high pick and get a bunch of first round picks out of it. That is more likely to be sure you get value back.

Also if you do it you need to sign Bennett and someone else at TE or use a high draft pick on a TE.

Here is whay i'd do with Gronk... Trade Gronk to say Chicago for the #3 pick. Trade that for this years #10 and next years #10 (give or take) then trade this years #10 for #22 and #54 this year and #54 next year (give or take)

That would be trading Gronk for #22 #54 and next year #10 (you can deal or use it) and #54 next year. If I trade Gronk I try to hold on to the capital cause i know we will need to replace Brady sooner or later and we are better off being able to pick a QB high when we have to. Gronk gives you the draft capital to do that.
 
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So you want to trade:
The greatest TE to ever play,
who's the best receiving TE,
maybe the biggest Redzone threat in all of the NFL,
one of the best blocking TE,
who's in his prime,
who's on a very team friendly contract,
for just a first round pick?


I would start with a 1st and 2nd, minimum, just to pick up the phone. Or a 1st and an impact player. I'm wanting an absolute haul if I'm about to trade a HOFer, in his prime, on a perfect contract. The injury concerns alone would be reason enough for teams to make low-ball offers. You won't get what he is worth.

It makes no sense to moving an injury concern when they aren't making a ton of money. You only do it if the contract is a burden. The contract isn't a burden, so a trade just doesn't make any sense. None.
 
So you want to trade:
The greatest TE to ever play,
who's the best receiving TE,
maybe the biggest Redzone threat in all of the NFL,
one of the best blocking TE,
who's in his prime,
who's on a very team friendly contract,
for just a first round pick?


I would start with a 1st and 2nd, minimum, just to pick up the phone. Or a 1st and an impact player. I'm wanting an absolute haul if I'm about to trade a HOFer, in his prime, on a perfect contract. The injury concerns alone would be reason enough for teams to make low-ball offers. You won't get what he is worth.

It makes no sense to moving an injury concern when they aren't making a ton of money. You only do it if the contract is a burden. The contract isn't a burden, so a trade just doesn't make any sense. None.

I agree I wouldn't trade him for a 1st round pick and yes I know #32 and #1 are very different. Lets be reasonable and say its the 10th pick in the 1st round.

I still wouldn't trade him. The reason I started the thread is because I just saw Troy Brown and Felger and whats that trolls name.. Breer? Anyway they both said they WOULD trade Gronk for a 1st round pick.

You can't replace the Gronk.
 
Only if Were getting Oj howard in the draft. And even then I really wouldnt even want to
 
I would not trade Gronk for a 1st round pick. Next year we have him for a good deal and he has no leverage to ask for more money. I know he has trouble staying healthy but when he is healthy is one of the most destructive forces on the offensive side of the ball. I would keep him until his current deal is up.

Would you trade Gronk for a 1st?

The bidding starts at 2 1sts, 2 mid rounders and we get the other team's TE plus we need Marty locked up.

Gronk is the greatest TE in history. A single first rounder is an insult.

If the other team has a concern about his durability then they shouldn't do the deal.
 
We have a playoff bye week this year so trade Gronk threads are more acceptable, even if the thought of dumping the best player ever is crazy talk.

I meant moreso the answer could be more clear after our playoff run. If we won the SB with our current offense looking great then the possibility of trading Gronk would make more sense than it does now.
 
The bidding starts at 2 1sts, 2 mid rounders and we get the other team's TE plus we need Marty locked up.

Gronk is the greatest TE in history. A single first rounder is an insult.

If the other team has a concern about his durability then they shouldn't do the deal.
I have far too much of a sentimental attachment to Gronk to even begin to look at trading him objectively.
 
FYI, having Gronkowski on the team next year will be a $7M cap hit, or $6M cap hit by trading him. So you'd rather save that $1M for a 1st round pick that will potentially cost you $3-5M and not be guaranteed to be anywhere near the player Gronk is.

Whisky. Tango. Foxtrot.
 
I have far too much of a sentimental attachment to Gronk to even begin to look at trading him objectively.

I hear you. I'm in the same boat but in pro sports everyone can be had for the right price.
 
FYI, having Gronkowski on the team next year will be a $7M cap hit, or $6M cap hit by trading him. So you'd rather save that $1M for a 1st round pick that will potentially cost you $3-5M and not be guaranteed to be anywhere near the player Gronk is.

Whisky. Tango. Foxtrot.

If Gronk stays healthy and has a 2014 "Gronk" year he is a steal up to 2019.

Money and cap space are not a concern.
 
If Gronk stays healthy and has a 2014 "Gronk" year he is a steal up to 2019.

Money and cap space are not a concern.

Agreed, I just don't see the point in trading him next year for a potential 1st. You're effectively trading $1M in cap space and a risk of Gronk getting injured for a 1st round draft pick and the risk of Gronk having a full HOF season.

I get that people are frustrated about Gronk's injuries, but I'd imagine most teams would gladly take the Patriots up on that offer if they were stupid enough to make that deal.
 
Agreed, I just don't see the point in trading him next year for a potential 1st. You're effectively trading $1M in cap space and a risk of Gronk getting injured for a 1st round draft pick and the risk of Gronk having a full HOF season.

I get that people are frustrated about Gronk's injuries, but I'd imagine most teams would gladly take the Patriots up on that offer if they were stupid enough to make that deal.

Yep.

You don't trade Gronk in his prime. Period.

Players like him come along every 30 years.

Even over the next 3 years if he plays 75% but you win a SB or 2 and lessens the load for Tom who will be in his early 40s its a steal.
 
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2 things folks are missing in my opinion:

1. Gronk is 1 moderate hit away from being out of football.

2. His camp was already making noise about his contract LAST offseason. I don't think his injury will make additional noise less likely.

This is moot because due to #1 no one is giving up a first round pick for him. If they did I would trade him in a heartbeat. TB12 is the only player I really have an emotional attachment to anymore.
 
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