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This is a tough one and it's not made any easier because the Poll question (would you like to see...) is different than the Thread question (would you be opposed...).
Several posters have pointed out the risks associated with going all-in to draft a QB. Need we put in evidence to support that perspective any more names than Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russel, Alex Smith and Vince Young? We seem to have done just fine with a sixth round pick and managed to win 11 games in a recent season with a guy who hadn't started a game since High School.
So, I guess if I believe that lightening can strike three times in the same club house in a 15 year period, I'd say that I wouldn't "like to see" them moving up to get Luck or anybody. But, I'm not sure I see it that way.
So, I don't think it's unreasonable to start looking three or four years down the pike.
Steve Young sat four seasons behind Montana (after two years in Tampa) and Aaron Rogers sat behind Favre for three seasons. Both of those guys worked out OK, one in Canton and the other starting to look like an elite QB. If any franchise could succeed with that formula again, I'd put my money on a franchise managed in the clubhouse by Belichick and from the Front Office by the Krafts. So, I'm not as worried by the "disgruntled sub" scenario.
The history of teams that have great success with a HOF QB is generally that they wander around in the desert for a long time before they find his replacement. The exceptions seem to be the two teams that had premium backups waiting to move up, Young and Rogers for Montana and Favre.
The Cowboys went 13 seasons, including a few with a very solid Danny White at QB, waiting to get to and win a Super Bowl between Staubach's last appearance and Aikman's first win. The Steelers went 16 seasons before getting back to the big game after Bradshaw's last win and 26 years (that's a quarter of a century) before they won again. It's been 16 years and counting since the niners last won with Steve young. It was 29 years after Lombardi and Starr won SB's I and II before Favre took the Packers back to the promised land. It's been 27 years since Shula and Marino took the Fins to their last Super Bowl.
So, no, I wouldn't "be opposed" to trading up and going after a Luck, if Belichick and the Krafts think that there's a high degree of probability that he is "the one" to take up where Tommy leaves off. The average retirement age for an SB era HOF QB is 37, or where Brady will be three years from now. That would be two seasons after next year's draft for Luck on the sidelines, maybe a third.
None of us can know when TB will decide to call it quits, but the one thing we know about him for sure is that he has more class in his little finger than Brett Favre and won't hang around and become a distraction when his time has come. He's said he wants to play until he's 40, like Favre. But, he takes a lot more hits than Brett and has lost an entire season to injury as well, plus going through another off season this year in rehab. So, who knows how it will all play out.
Terrible idea. Too much risk in a first round quarterback.
Unfortunately I accidentally voted yes in the poll...
Absolutely. Would you be willing to spend it for another (potential) 15 years of elite QB play?
That's what the Practice Squad is for.
Steve Young sat four seasons behind Montana (after two years in Tampa) and Aaron Rogers sat behind Favre for three seasons. Both of those guys worked out OK, one in Canton and the other starting to look like an elite QB. If any franchise could succeed with that formula again, I'd put my money on a franchise managed in the clubhouse by Belichick and from the Front Office by the Krafts. So, I'm not as worried by the "disgruntled sub" scenario.
The history of teams that have great success with a HOF QB is generally that they wander around in the desert for a long time before they find his replacement. The exceptions seem to be the two teams that had premium backups waiting to move up, Young and Rogers for Montana and Favre.
The Cowboys went 13 seasons, including a few with a very solid Danny White at QB, waiting to get to and win a Super Bowl between Staubach's last appearance and Aikman's first win. The Steelers went 16 seasons before getting back to the big game after Bradshaw's last win and 26 years (that's a quarter of a century) before they won again. It's been 16 years and counting since the niners last won with Steve young. It was 29 years after Lombardi and Starr won SB's I and II before Favre took the Packers back to the promised land. It's been 27 years since Shula and Marino took the Fins to their last Super Bowl.
So, no, I wouldn't "be opposed" to trading up and going after a Luck, if Belichick and the Krafts think that there's a high degree of probability that he is "the one" to take up where Tommy leaves off. The average retirement age for an SB era HOF QB is 37, or where Brady will be three years from now. That would be two seasons after next year's draft for Luck on the sidelines, maybe a third.
None of us can know when TB will decide to call it quits, but the one thing we know about him for sure is that he has more class in his little finger than Brett Favre and won't hang around and become a distraction when his time has come. He's said he wants to play until he's 40, like Favre. But, he takes a lot more hits than Brett and has lost an entire season to injury as well, plus going through another off season this year in rehab. So, who knows how it will all play out.
He could turn out to be the next Ryan Leaf, too.
That and I don't see BB doing this anyway. It's exactly the kind of thing he never does.
True that. I'm new to this posting stuff as well so I try to be careful what i say.
Terrible idea. Too much risk in a first round quarterback.
Unfortunately I accidentally voted yes in the poll...
I think we should look at the incoming NCAA freshman class of QBs as potential replacemets for Brady. 4 years of college and 2 years internship in the pros should be about right. I think we are looking at 6 years before Brady retires.
Barring injury, and assuming his career trajectory continues in the way most scouts expect.
sure...trade our 2010 2nd rounder to Carolina for their 2011 first. DO IT!
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