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DaBruinz

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If he does come back in that fashion I think we're a few pieces away up front from a good defense. Wino, HT, Uche, Jennings, Simon, Wise, Butler and a few big boys up front have the makings of a decent looking 3-4 / 2-5. Esp if we ever let Hightower rush the passer full-time (Please Bill just one year. I've only seen good things happen when 54 rushes the QB) Wino, Hightower, Uche & Simon isn't bad at all with Butler, Guy and additional help on the line.
I always like your insight. So, based on this above, you believe the Pats will bring back Simon, Wise, Butler, and Guy??
 

Hammer of Thor

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Idk I think he's played pretty well all things considering. I'm not crowning him, Dugger or Onwenu yet but I thought each proved their worth right away. Walsh used to want guys to show their worth by year two or it was make or break after that. I'm happy with them so far.

I think Hightower coming back, in shape, ready to rock is the best thing for this group. Gives everyone else a little breathing room and really allows them to play their role.

If he does come back in that fashion I think we're a few pieces away up front from a good defense. Wino, HT, Uche, Jennings, Simon, Wise, Butler and a few big boys up front have the makings of a decent looking 3-4 / 2-5. Esp if we ever let Hightower rush the passer full-time (Please Bill just one year. I've only seen good things happen when 54 rushes the QB) Wino, Hightower, Uche & Simon isn't bad at all with Butler, Guy and additional help on the line.
The key to everything is getting a nose tackle. As you said, I believe we have a lot of the pieces already. A quality nose tackle opens up so much flexibility with the defense and will go a long way towards fixing the running problems. Hightower setting the edge (and rushing the passer otherwise) solves the other big problem.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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I always like your insight. So, based on this above, you believe the Pats will bring back Simon, Wise, Butler, and Guy??
I think Wise might get more $ elsewhere. I could see a few teams use him in a more traditional role-more snaps, so again he might get a few decent offers.

I'd bet a lot of money Bill wants Guy & Butler back, for sure. I doubt either gets a offer that is that much better than others although both will command the most out of the bunch.

Simon is the least valuable of the group imo so I could see Bill setting a minimum and saying we'd love to have you but have a lot of other concerns that are more pressing.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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The key to everything is getting a nose tackle. As you said, I believe we have a lot of the pieces already. A quality nose tackle opens up so much flexibility with the defense and will go a long way towards fixing the running problems. Hightower setting the edge (and rushing the passer otherwise) solves the other big problem.
I'm very interested in which way Bill goes on defense. It's a bare group in a lot of ways so w/e moves he makes should give us a little insight into where he's going. I love the flexibility we have in the secondary and a few others but we need reinforcements in the worst way. A legit NT we could count on would be welcomed for sure.
 

Mike the Brit

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I could be convinced otherwise, but I’d say their QB is one of the few likeable players on KC... (also have soft spot for Tardif, who’s opted out for 2020)

I have no view on the QB, but I have huge respect for Duvernay-Tardif who has been working as a medical orderly back in Montreal while "opted out".

 

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I have no view on the QB, but I have huge respect for Duvernay-Tardif who has been working as a medical orderly back in Montreal while "opted out".

How Billy & Nicky & Lombardi thought that Jonny Halapio was a better prospect than LDT just blows my mind.
 

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