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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.So, if there's been a precedence previously set, (Lions/Chiefs 2011), then I don't see any real difference except the Patriots have yet to file a grievence. If they do the penalty should be even more significant. Why? Here's why:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/2/18/2001402/lions-tampering-chiefs-draft-picks
According to this story, Gunther Cunningham, former Chief and the Lions DC made these remarks:
"(Kansas City) keeps wanting to dump their players. I would like to be there to catch a lot of them because I know a couple of those guys."
Even with the Lions counter-charge involving former Chief Jarred Page and his agent, the Lions still got docked a 7th and had to swap 5ths for these remarks. (PS-Page never played for the Lions post-incident anyway).
Now this case involves an OWNER. A man who had previously been the one who wrote his former employee his paychecks and would be the one who has the ultimate decision to make his former employee who is employed by another team a financial offer.
Gunther Cunningham had no authority to make any formal offers to any players his former employer may have been considering parting ways with. Is this not significantly a higher form of tampering as it was perpetrated at the highest level of an orginization?
Something to chew on there for anyone who thinks this should be swept under the rug. If consistency is what the league office strives for, this is a blatent reversal of thier former rulings. Just voicing interest in unnamed former players was considered enough of an impropriety to dock draft picks. Fine? What fine?
Now we have an OWNER naming a SPECIFIC player he would be interested in. Precedence? Consistency?
We shall see.
Link to this second warning in 2007 please...
Except, in the recent cases of tampering, teams have been forced to swap picks. So the Jets can have the Pats' first-round pick, and we can call it a day.The Jets received no compensation from the Patriots for Cameragate.
Except, in the recent cases of tampering, teams have been forced to swap picks. So the Jets can have the Pats' first-round pick, and we can call it a day.
They were sent a memo in late August right before the season started reminding teams they could no longer put their cameras in certain areas of stadiums. Belichick blew off the memo and Mangini let the jets know the Patriots were not following the new protocol.
Revis said he tried to go to the jest first.
Swapping 3rds would mean we would get #70 and they would get #96 (I know, I'm an optimist).Even if it were as little as a third or a fourth rounder, the resulting JESTenfreude would be so, so delicious.
I hope you're right.While I do agree that Kraft is a consensus builder and less confrontational than many owners, remember Cameragate. Mr. Kraft was *personally* fined several 100s of thousands of dollars (I think it was half a mil but I could be wrong) because the Jets pushed a real ticky-tack violation over the Pats filming from the *wrong part of the field*. It doesn't get much more disproportional than that.
I think Kraft wants blood as much as BB does. He's just going to be a bit more more low key about it.
Absolutely correct, I am especially amused by the" holier than thou" donk fans who conveniently ignore that they were punished twice by a real commissioner for violating the salary cap rules when they won their superbowls.I'm getting a chuckle from reading the morons in the PFT comments who think this wasn't tampering at all and outraged that the Pats are pursuing this because spygate.
Absolutely correct, I am especially amused by the" holier than thou" donk fans who conveniently ignore that they were punished twice by a real commissioner for violating the salary cap rules when they won their superbowls.
Yep. Shanny learned from Mr. Salary Cap Circumventer himself- Carmen Policy. CEO of the 49ers.Absolutely correct, I am especially amused by the" holier than thou" donk fans who conveniently ignore that they were punished twice by a real commissioner for violating the salary cap rules when they won their superbowls.
Yep. Shanny learned from Mr. Salary Cap Circumventer himself- Carmen Policy. CEO of the 49ers.
Dutchmaster617 gave this post a "Dislike".
Evidently he feels the incompetent should be allowed to break rules.
It takes all kinds.......
The truth hurts.I didn't like your post either, but not enough to hit the dislike. Here it is;
Your "reasoning" is pathetic.
Just because they aren't good at what they do does not mean they are allowed to break the rules.
Most competent human beings learn that basic lesson before 4th grade.
I never like seeing anyone being insulted here.
That said because the jets pushed that issue to the greatest extent possible, as well as compensation for Belichick, the Patriots should be as unreasonable as possible and be total pricks about this. I'll start. We want the #6 overall.