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It must have been, that would explain why nothing was done.It was almost definitely 2006.
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Thats quite a different conclusion than I get. I see it as a kid saying I would never spill the milk, so it couldn't have been me Mom.He also said "I would never interfere in the contractual relationship of a player with another team", which if he admitted to tampering would be contradictory. I think his statement is a CYA and not an admission and especially not an apology.
You know, the simple fact that Johnson's comments have become a distraction before the Pats are playing a playoff game is enough to make him deserve some punishment.
Could be a distraction to Revis if he has to answer some stupid reporters' questions. Already landed on BB's plate.
There's a reason owners/GMs can't do this sort of thing. As someone upthread stated - imagine if Denver had been whispering to Talib before the AFCCG last year.
LMAO. Nope. C'mon, troll, 50% of those polled voted for "Second Warning" as the punishment most likely to be handed down.
Did Belichick get a "second warning"?
Thats quite a different conclusion than I get. I see it as a kid saying I would never spill the milk, so it couldn't have been me Mom.
He felt the need to make the statement because he knows it is tampering, so he is trying to say while I tampered, I would never do it on purpose. Doesn't matter.
There would be no reason to say he shouldn't have said those words, if he isn't apologizing.
So you can tamper with a player, then say you don't tamper so it isn't tampering?I'm not sure how this is different then what I am saying. He is saying he doesn't tamper so what he did wasn't tampering. It was his poorly wording that gave that misconception. He's now cleared the misconception and there is no tampering. At least that is how I interpret it.
I shouldn't have done that is about as close to an apology as you can get without the words "I apologize" in there.He felt the need to make the statement because there were people talking about it. If people think his intention was to send a message to the Revis camp and he doesn't at least try to correct that supposed misconception then some may think he endorses that notion. He is trying to correct the supposed misconception of his words. There is nothing close to an apology in his statement, only clarification. An apology entails having wronged another and his statement tries to claim that he hasn't wronged the Patriots
Revis said he tried to go to the jest first. Woody said he would have taken him if he knew Revis would have taken what the Pats paid him. 1+1 = 2. Simple IMORevis hasn't gone anywhere yet. And if we do lose Revis I doubt it will be because Woody said these things in a presser. I certainly think the Jets should be punished for their gaffe in procedure but it is hardly something to create a **** storm over. Realistically Woody's comments will have little to no impact on the Revis negotiations. If they are going to be punished it will most likely be for a procedural violation.
I'm not sure how this is different then what I am saying. He is saying he doesn't tamper so what he did wasn't tampering. It was his poorly wording that gave that misconception. He's now cleared the misconception and there is no tampering. At least that is how I interpret it.
He felt the need to make the statement because there were people talking about it. If people think his intention was to send a message to the Revis camp and he doesn't at least try to correct that supposed misconception then some may think he endorses that notion. He is trying to correct the supposed misconception of his words. There is nothing close to an apology in his statement, only clarification. An apology entails having wronged another and his statement tries to claim that he hasn't wronged the Patriots
You have a link to that? I remember it happened latter in the 07 season when the jest played in gillette. And mangina didn't turn the patriot camera man in, it was Tannenbaum the GM. I'm not saying your wrong i just don't remember it that way. If you had a link it would clear up the confusion.
You have a link to that? I remember it happened latter in the 07 season when the jest played in gillette. And mangina didn't turn the patriot camera man in, it was Tannenbaum the GM. I'm not saying your wrong i just don't remember it that way. If you had a link it would clear up the confusion.
So you can tamper with a player, then say you don't tamper so it isn't tampering?
I would like Darrelle Revis back. This is tampering.
I don't tamper. This does not reverse what he has said. Otherwise, teams could go around tampering with players, then say they didn't mean it. The damage is done. Whether you consider that damage legitimate or not, the NFL does.
By his words, he made a statement that could impact the Patriots negotiations with Revis because he indicated and interest in signing him and actually implied what he would pay. Sorry didn't mean to tamper doesn't change that.
I shouldn't have done that is about as close to an apology as you can get without the words "I apologize" in there.
It does not matter whether he issues a statement saying he didn't mean to do what he did. He did it.
He is not correcting a misconception. He did not take back the words. He realized he tampered and said I didn't mean to tamper, sorry.
The problem with that is no one is going to actually admit they were doing this due to the ramifications that would ensue by doing so. I think it was a mistake on his part but it was still a violation. However, I also think him backtracking and admitting it was a mistake is also going to mitigate and real punishment
I don't understand what you are saying.If you think his intention was to admit guilt and apologize then why didn't he just do so directly?
I don't expect much unless Kraft decides to push the issue. There will certainly be a fine, probably a loss of a pick and perhaps a swap of later round picks. If Kraft pushes hard, I would expect a swap of 3rd or maybe even 2nd round picks. Unfortunately I don't think Kraft will push hard. If this had anything close to the media coverage it would have if BB did this, I would expect good compensation. Sadly that type of media attention is only reserved for when the Pats or BB eff up.
It really should be this simple.In reality it doesn't effect anything really. Plenty of tampering goes on behind the scenes anyways. But johnson broke the rules in an obvious fashion and should be punished like others before him.
Mangini alerted the jets, Tannenbaum was the one who decided to go to the mattresses and bring in league security and make it a much bigger issue. The patriots caught the jets doing the exact same thing in a playoff game b the year before and simply removed the guy with the camera. Most teams were doing it Belichick simply screwed up by ignoring the memo and the extent of the real scandal was taping less than a quarter of one game, prior to that it cwas commonplace.
That said because the jets pushed that issue to the greatest extent possible, as well as compensation for Belichick, the Patriots should be as unreasonable as possible and be total pricks about this. I'll start. We want the #6 overall.
But the damage is done. He cant do what he did and back track without repercussions. Or everyone would. He was told not to say it, and he did.I think my post was pretty obvious that Goodell going to willfully ignore that this happened (or a slap on the wrist memo). Johnson backtracked pretty quickly and it would not surprise me if they accept his response that he didn't know and called Kraft immediately. Regardless if it's a league matter, if the Owner says it should be investigated its more likely to be rather than the owner being complacent and acting like nothing even happened.
Mangini alerted the jets, Tannenbaum was the one who decided to go to the mattresses and bring in league security and make it a much bigger issue. .
The patriots caught the jets doing the exact same thing in a playoff game b the year before and simply removed the guy with the camera. Most teams were doing it Belichick simply screwed up by ignoring the memo and the extent of the real scandal was taping less than a quarter of one game, prior to that it cwas commonplace.
That said because the jets pushed that issue to the greatest extent possible, as well as compensation for Belichick, the Patriots should be as unreasonable as possible and be total pricks about this.
I'll start. We want the #6 overall.
I don't understand what you are saying.
I am talking about what happened. I could care less about what he intended and whether or not he tampered has nothing to do with intent.
You seem to think he can say he didn't mean it so it isn't tampering. I disagree very strongly.
Otherwise everyone could tamper with every player then say they weren't trying to tamper and all will be well.