Wolf on Lowe: “It’s been impressive to watch him progress”

[sb1]

I guess going from absolutely wretched to merely not very good counts as “progress”.

 

[Fubby]

I guess going from absolutely wretched to merely not very good counts as “progress”.

If where he’s at now is progress, then the starting point was what? Backup on a last place UFL team??

 

[signbabybrady]

He's definitely made progress. I was making this point last week and was hopeful the progress might somehow be enough but after Thursday's game it would seem at best he's gone from starting RT who doesn't belong on a roster to starting LT who should be a backup.

Good news there is still a ton of room for improvement lol.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I guess going from absolutely wretched to merely not very good counts as “progress”.

Wolf will win the GM of the Year award.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Here is the article ... on that and more:

Eliot Wolf praises Vederian Lowe, defends Patriots’ offensive line performance

“We’re pretty comfortable with our group right now.” How Eliot Wolf addressed questions about the Patriots’ unsettled offensive line.

www.bostonherald.com

“Vederian’s done a really nice job. He’s steadily improved,” Wolf said. “We said it last year, like, if he could just learn to — he has really good length to get his hands out, he would have a chance to ascend to that starter level. And he’s really started to do that this year, and it’s been, it’s been impressive to watch him progress. And we’re excited to continue working with him.”

 

[MrTibbs]

Here is the article ... on that and more:

Eliot Wolf praises Vederian Lowe, defends Patriots’ offensive line performance

“We’re pretty comfortable with our group right now.” How Eliot Wolf addressed questions about the Patriots’ unsettled offensive line.

www.bostonherald.com

TRASH...he doesn't even appear to be a quality backup.

 

[PatsFan2]

Wolf will win the GM of the Year award.

Lowe Blow One-if that's a kick in the gut directed at me.

 

[PatsFan2]

Then Biggest disappointment to me is Calvin Anderson it's telling if they have Lowe well ahead of him. It's looking like Anderson a sure cut!

 

[203Pat]

So far I have seen bad to worse.

 

[Wozzy]

Progressively get worse… pretty impressive.

Wolf is delusional…

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Lowe Blow One-if that's a kick in the gut directed at me.

LOL - you can read between the lines? HaHa.

Did you see Wolf's interviews during the 2nd preseason game and last Saturday? Not impressive. He does not command the room or inspire a lot of confidence. Are you still overly confident?

 

[PatsFan2]

LOL - you can read between the lines? HaHa.

Did you see Wolf's interviews during the 2nd preseason game and last Saturday? Not impressive. He does not command the room or inspire a lot of confidence. Are you still overly confident?

Alright maybe the howl got muzzled a bit nobody is perfect.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Alright maybe the howl got muzzled a bit nobody is perfect.

Maye looks good but that was the obvious pick at #3. Polk looks OK - not looking like a All Pro, but more like I said at the draft, Polk is a more athletic Meyers. Wallace has impressive feet, and looks stout, so I am surprised he does not get more chances at RT. I am not sure why Wallace is not in the mix more. I still doubt Wallace is a LT, but a RT starter would be a great pick. All the reporters think Robinson looks great, but it remains a perplexing pick if Onwenu and Sow are going to play RG and LG. Baker is an enigma, looks good but is on the third team. Overall, the draft looks OK. Maye is the key of course. It would be great if there was an All Pro in the group (that does not appear to be the situation), but there does not seem to be a bust either.

 

[borg]

Eliot Wolf on Vederian Lowe: “It’s been impressive to watch him progress”

 

[PatsFan2]

Maye looks good but that was the obvious pick at #3. Polk looks OK - not looking like a All Pro, but more like I said at the draft, Polk is a more athletic Meyers. Wallace has impressive feet, and looks stout, so I am surprised he does not get more chances at RT. I am not sure why Wallace is not in the mix more. I still doubt Wallace is a LT, but a RT starter would be a great pick. All the reporters think Robinson looks great, but it remains a perplexing pick if Onwenu and Sow are going to play RG and LG. Baker is an enigma, looks good but is on the third team. Overall, the draft looks OK. Maye is the key of course. It would be great if there was an All Pro in the group (that does not appear to be the situation), but there does not seem to be a bust either.

We have to let them play before we judge it's a long season. Polk have had a really nice camp he's come on strong like Maye.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Maye looks good but that was the obvious pick at #3. Polk looks OK - not looking like a All Pro, but more like I said at the draft, Polk is a more athletic Meyers. Wallace has impressive feet, and looks stout, so I am surprised he does not get more chances at RT. I am not sure why Wallace is not in the mix more. I still doubt Wallace is a LT, but a RT starter would be a great pick. All the reporters think Robinson looks great, but it remains a perplexing pick if Onwenu and Sow are going to play RG and LG. Baker is an enigma, looks good but is on the third team. Overall, the draft looks OK. Maye is the key of course. It would be great if there was an All Pro in the group (that does not appear to be the situation), but there does not seem to be a bust either.

On the Robinson pick...

Short term: Possibility remains Onwenu needs to kick out to RT and Robinson could fill in at RG.

Longer term: I don't think Onwenu sees the 3rd year of his deal here. He'll be set to have a $25M cap hit and they can save $17.5M of that via trade/cut. I think the only way they see it necessary to pay him that is if the RT situation is still unresolved and they need him there. Otherwise, I think they're hoping/expecting Robinson to be good enough at RG that they don't need to spend such an outrageous amount of money for a RG that's probably a tier below all pro caliber.

Rookies sign on for 4 years. My guess is they just see him as a starting caliber player at a draft slot where most guys are seen as lottery tickets more than guys you project with any real level of conviction as a starter. So they figured it was just good value that will pay dividends over the long term.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

On the Robinson pick...

Short term: Possibility remains Onwenu needs to kick out to RT and Robinson could fill in at RG.

Great idea but then the Wallace pick makes no sense. Either way signing Onwenu to a high priced contract and then drafting Wallace and Robinson is perplexing when we have lots of other needs.

Longer term: I don't think Onwenu sees the 3rd year of his deal here. He'll be set to have a $25M cap hit and they can save $17.5M of that via trade/cut. I think the only way they see it necessary to pay him that is if the RT situation is still unresolved and they need him there. Otherwise, I think they're hoping/expecting Robinson to be good enough at RG that they don't need to spend such an outrageous amount of money for a RG that's probably a tier below all pro caliber.

Rookies sign on for 4 years. My guess is they just see him as a starting caliber player at a draft slot where most guys are seen as lottery tickets more than guys you project with any real level of conviction as a starter. So they figured it was just good value that will pay dividends over the long term.

Maybe you are right that Onwenu will be let go in Y3 and Robinson and Wallace would be starting at RG and RT. But that is very early planning. Unless they think a lot of Jake Andrews to be the next Center, they could have filled the hole at future center (which is more pressing) instead of a 3 year plan at RG and RT.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Great idea but then the Wallace pick makes no sense. Either way signing Onwenu to a high priced contract and then drafting Wallace and Robinson is perplexing when we have lots of other needs.

Maybe you are right that Onwenu will be let go in Y3 and Robinson and Wallace would be starting at RG and RT. But that is very early planning. Unless they think a lot of Jake Andrews to be the next Center, they could have filled the hole at future center (which is more pressing) instead of a 3 year plan at RG and RT.

Even if they like the player, they probably can't afford to be so naive to just assume Wallace will work at RT. Players bust all the time. And who knows, maybe it's even possible he hits as a LT too. Also, you can't just assume that they could have filled the hole at future center just by drafting one. What was their evaluation of those players? We're talking about 4th rounders here. We're not talking top 10 picks. You can't just assume they saw long term starter potential for tons of guys at that point of the draft.

If they're was a center that they felt awesome about projecting as a good starter and they felt the same about Robinson and went with Robinson over the center, then I think they made a mistake. I just assume that's not the case because it's not really rocket science to say that. I just feel like that's such a painstakingly obvious call that any front office can see it.

IMO, it's foolish to treat the draft as just checking boxes of what positions to "address". If the guy you pick isn't good you didn't actually address anything. Just because they took Wallace in the 3rd, they can't just assume they're geniuses and he'll lock down LT or even RT. If you look up any team's best drafts of all time, most of them are going to have some busts in it too.

If our team was actually good and we had a lot of really good players under contract, I'd feel a little differently. That's when you can really start, to some degree, really targeting specific positions either for the immediate need or long-term succession planning. But our roster is such a blank slate that I don't think we should really be too worried about that. If Wallace and Robinson hit at RT then you free up money to spend elsewhere. We need an infusion of legit starting caliber players across the roster via the draft. How many guys on rookie contract do we have that you feel good about projecting as starters? Sow, Gonzalez, White, and is that it? And those guys the jury is still out on to some degree. Everyone else on the team as far as rookie contract guys go, I'd say the jury is still FULLY out on. There's no need for them to get greedy and try to not only draft good players, but also target specific positions. Just trust the draft board and take advantage of the roster being an open canvas where you can move pieces around and re-allocate money as needed.

 

[203Pat]

It is wild to me. Granted I am no Dante Scarnecchia, but Lowe looks like he's barely even an NFL player. He plays like a practice squad bottom of the roster guy and somehow we think he may start at left tackle? Arguably the second most important position on the offense?

 

[PatsFan2]

It is wild to me. Granted I am no Dante Scarnecchia, but Lowe looks like he's barely even an NFL player. He plays like a practice squad bottom of the roster guy and somehow we think he may start at left tackle? Arguably the second most important position on the offense?

We have to go with that Single RB set can't go Empty with Lowe on the left side. Let's hope AVP don't think otherwise.