Why did this team sign Tebow?

[Brady6]

Re: Re: Why did this team sign Tebow?

Tebow's motivational leadership and the momentum of finally getting out of the cellar pushed the defense to get better. It wasn't singlehanded but the unorthodox, smash-mouth playbook/QB was definitely a catalyst.

This statement is the best and in my opinion most accurate assessment of what Tebow did in Denver I have heard from any pro Tebow poster.

Demo - step your game up..

 

[Joker]

Details are parts of the whole, but I've noticed when guys who trash TT get corrected on them, they can always come back to "Tebow sucks and that's it." Popular opinion outweighs facts.

uh...Pats fans trashed Tebow last week because he played an entire half with a ZERO QB rating on 1-7 passing and an airmailed INT. That is FACT and popular opinion.

wait...5 posts??...oh, I get it.....Hi, Remucker!!! Brandy give you your itty bitty testicles back yet?

 

[fnordcircle]

Wonder what the haters will say now that Tebow had his best preseason game so far tonight.

 

[Joker]

I still think Tebow has already made this roster. I am hoping the staff plays him at least a half next week and uses the offensive sets I SAW them utilizing for him in the practices I WITNESSED. Otherwise, why would they spend so much time all camp working something they never intend to use?...that would be an impossibly ignorant strategy.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Re: Why did this team sign Tebow?

Wonder what the haters will say now that Tebow had his best preseason game so far tonight.

As SDI will vouch for I beat you to this terrible attempt at humor

 

[Gwedd]

That's garbage. That defense was good only when they played a bad team. You know in that run the didn't beat a single team over .500 right? How did they do against the lions? Patriots twice? How come tim pushed the defense to get better only against such great teams as the Jets, Chiefs, raiders, chargers, bears but couldn't do the same against the better offenses?

I'll answer for you. Because he didn't change a thing, they hit the easy part of the schedule, beat a bunch of crappy teams lost to the good ones and ended the same way they started the season 1-4. And they didn't win the AFC west, they sat at home needing San Diego to lose, which thy did.

8-8 and they win on a tie breaker. Whose the revisionist history guy?

But none of that matters. What matters is that Tebow & the Broncos won their division, and got into the playoffs, winning against Pittsburg, then losing to New England.

As Coach Belichick says, and has said, your first job as a team is to win your division. Doesn't matter how you got there, just get in. After that, we'll see what happens.

In the NFL, where perception is reality, Tim Tebow put the Denver Broncos on his shoulders and willed them to win. Doesn't matter how. Doesn't matter against what teams they played. Those players rallied around him, and believed in him, and when you watched those games, you saw the excitement in the player's eyes, and the belief in the faces and voices of the fans. That's what counts. Winning. Perception. The Storyline.

So Tebow got traded to the JESTS and was never used to any good effect. He was something that Ryan didn't want, and Sanchez didn't want, and was only tossed out from time to time to feign the belief that the organization cared about him. They never did, they never wanted him, and they misused him.

How will New England use him? I don't know. I can't say if they even will, though I do believe he'll be on the 53 roster.

What I do know is that, as a fan of New England, of Tebow, and of football, I am excited to see how this story unfolds.

 

[Awesomo 3000]

What's wrong with Tebow starts in his head, the last 2+ seasons have beat him down mentally I know that isn't a bone or ligament but it does take time to heal, when I first came back from Iraq it took be almost 2 years to figure out how to reassembles myself mentally, I think a year on IR being around a winning franchise, great coaches and a QB like Brady all while out of the media spotlight is exactly what Tim needs. He can rebuild mentally work on his game and have a true chance to succeed in 2014.

Finally! A post I can agree with completely, from you. I just hope he gets that year to recuperate a bit. Looks like he's gonna have to earn it this next week, but I hope he does.

I still think he could contribute this year in more "unusual" ways, if it was needed, but simply having a year to get out of the media spotlight and fix his head would do wonders, methinks.

 

[Joker]

Wonder what the haters will say now that Tebow had his best preseason game so far tonight.

they'll say today's 0 QB rating shows he hasn't improved.

 

[Boogs]

I still think Tebow has already made this roster. I am hoping the staff plays him at least a half next week and uses the offensive sets I SAW them utilizing for him in the practices I WITNESSED. Otherwise, why would they spend so much time all camp working something they never intend to use?...that would be an impossibly ignorant strategy.

Thanks. That's very interesting.

 

[Remarker]

Re: Backup QB Situation

That's to bad; I love 010405, admittedly he is a feisty one but he is actually on point with his football knowledge when he is having a non Tebow conversation. I hope trolls his way back soon.

He said he's a commercial fisherman. He may be in blue water.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Re: Why did this team sign Tebow?

So Tebow got traded to the JESTS and was never used to any good effect. He was something that Ryan didn't want, and Sanchez didn't want, and was only tossed out from time to time to feign the belief that the organization cared about him. They never did, they never wanted him, and they misused him.

This reminds me I noticed Ryan ripped Geno Smith in the media about a week ago and I started to wonder why is he so obsessed with Sanchez, I mean realistically when he gets fired it will be because of Sanchez.

I think Mark has compromising photos of Rex with some feet that aren't his wife's.

 

[TheGridironGeek]

That defense was good only when they played a bad team.

I agree. When they played a good offense, like the Pats, the Broncos D was wiped off the field. They gave up key touchdowns against some mediocre offenses too, like the Vikings and the Steelers. This greatly diminishes Tebow because if he only had a good, consistent defense, it would have been much harder...to win...wait, nevermind.

You know in that run the didn't beat a single team over .500 right?

The Steelers were over 500 but I guess it'd be inconvenient to bring that up. In any case, I'm one of those boring old codgers who says there are no easy teams to beat at the NFL level. Nobody agrees with me, of course, except NFL coaches.

How did they do against the lions? Patriots twice? How come tim pushed the defense to get better only against such great teams as the Jets, Chiefs, raiders, chargers, bears but couldn't do the same against the better offenses?

Against the Lions they put a pure option QB in a traditional NFL gameplan. It looked about the same as it would look if Tom Brady ran the flexbone.

Speaking of Brady, he could have put up 60+ points against the Broncos D in each of those two games if he wanted to, so it really makes criticism of the opposing QB a little moot.

Why do better offenses tend to score more points against everybody than bad ones? WHY? *cue "Questions" by the Moody Blues*

I'll answer for you.

I wish you wouldn't.

Because he didn't change a thing, they hit the easy part of the schedule, beat a bunch of crappy teams lost to the good ones and ended the same way they started the season 1-4. And they didn't win the AFC west, they sat at home needing San Diego to lose, which thy did.

8-8 and they win on a tie breaker. Whose the revisionist history guy?

I didn't really say anything about the AFC West or having a winning overall record. They went 7-4 after changing the playbook for Tebow. 2-5 prior.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Re: Why did this team sign Tebow?

Finally! A post I can agree with completely, from you. I just hope he gets that year to recuperate a bit. Looks like he's gonna have to earn it this next week, but I hope he does.

I still think he could contribute this year in more "unusual" ways, if it was needed, but simply having a year to get out of the media spotlight and fix his head would do wonders, methinks.

If you keep Tebow in any way with the team its knowing he is a project, for that reason and my belief that his confidence is the main issue at this time I'd just say sit him next week as well, and make the determination to keep him around what he does when he isn't in front of media and fans.

I'm looking at Tebow's situation in the same context of Rick Ankiel or even Daniel Bard.

 

[sb1]

Hehehhe, funny post. No more mention of Tebow being an old journeyman QB while Young looked like a young QB trying to develop ?

The one thing you are right about in your post is that there is no evidence at this time that Tim is the next Steve Young. That's absolutely correct. It's the FUTURE, which means that it is unknown. There's a remote chance that he might be. Or perhaps he might only be 75% the QB that Steve Young was. Or 50%. Or he might completely wash out.

Then again, the same thing can be said about every QB who gets drafted or is being "developed". With Tebow, the cost is low, around league minimum. Only real cost would be a roster spot. IF, IF, IF Bill and Josh see something there, they might decide that it's worth investing the time, dollars and roster spot.

There's nothing I said about Young or Tebow that is untrue.


And yes there is remote chance that Tim could turn into Steve Young. Just like there's a remote chance I win the Powerball. It could happen in theory but the odds are stacked so far against it makes it not worth contemplating the possibility.

 

[TheGridironGeek]

uh...Pats fans trashed Tebow last week because he played an entire half with a ZERO QB rating on 1-7 passing and an airmailed INT. That is FACT and popular opinion.

wait...5 posts??...oh, I get it.....Hi, Remucker!!! Brandy give you your itty bitty testicles back yet?

Yes. Also a fact that it was in the Pats' base offense. And if Tom Brady was asked to run the read-option, he'd have 7 carries for 1 yard and a fumble, and probably a couple injuries. What's your point?

Who's Remucker? And I don't know who Brandy is, but she sounds like a woman and a football fan. Feel free to send her my way

 

[Awesomo 3000]

Wonder what the haters will say now that Tebow had his best preseason game so far tonight.

I can't speak for the haters, but a full blooded Tebowite could possibly say

"He finally stopped regressing, and is now making a strong push for the #2 spot behind Mallett. If Tebow continues to improve like this, he may even be able to substitute in for Brady, when Brady gets tired, or wants to take a play off."

It's hard to argue with, because it's the undeniable truth!

 

[Demosthenes]

they'll say today's 0 QB rating shows he hasn't improved.

Then you say F'em and point out that Tebow is hardly the first QB to drop a 0 QB rating in a game. It's been done over 160 times since 1960 with QBs having 7 or more attempts.

 

[Joker]

Yes. Also a fact that it was in the Pats' base offense. And if Tom Brady was asked to run the read-option, he'd have 7 carries for 1 yard and a fumble, and probably a couple injuries. What's your point?

that looks like an unproven supposition of ludicrous construction in response to KNOWN fact.

sorry...I'm not playing any of these weirdo if/then = aliens games...

 

[Suddyfan]

I agree. When they played a good offense, like the Pats, the Broncos D was wiped off the field. They gave up key touchdowns against some mediocre offenses too, like the Vikings and the Steelers. This greatly diminishes Tebow because if he only had a good, consistent defense, it would have been much harder...to win...wait, nevermind.



The Steelers were over 500 but I guess it'd be inconvenient to bring that up. In any case, I'm one of those boring old codgers who says there are no easy teams to beat at the NFL level. Nobody agrees with me, of course, except NFL coaches.

Umm I said the run ... where they went 6-1... The next 5 ... 1-4 and yes they finally beat a winning team.

Against the Lions they put a pure option QB in a traditional NFL gameplan. It looked about the same as it would look if Tom Brady ran the flexbone.

Speaking of Brady, he could have put up 60+ points against the Broncos D in each of those two games if he wanted to, so it really makes criticism of the opposing QB a little moot.

No it doesn't you gave tebow credit for leading his defense to play better, yet he doesn't get any blame when they don't. So which is it? He either improved them or he didn't. I go with didn't because those wins were smoke and mirrors. Just like the 13 - 3 record for them last year. They beat nobody the last 10 games of the year, get a very good team at home and get ass kicked. Their defense isn't as good as people think.

Why do better offenses tend to score more points against everybody than bad ones? WHY? *cue "Questions" by the Moody Blues*

So you admit that part of them winning and losing was predicated on just how bad the team they played happened to be? Because if you do then your " tebow raises all ships" is garbage.


I wish you wouldn't.



I didn't really say anything about the AFC West or having a winning overall record. They went 7-4 after changing the playbook for Tebow. 2-5 prior.

1-4 in his last five. Please explain why?

 

[Joker]

Then you say F'em and point out that Tebow is hardly the first QB to drop a 0 QB rating in a game. It's been done over 160 times since 1960 with QBs having 7 or more attempts.

then you say...see? it's all been done before but never when a player has never even played in the game..

and then HE says...you see!!!!! Tim IS special!!!!

meanwhile...the Mayan calendar ticks down towards the next fake apocalypse