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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.The Garrapolites will never be:
A) Happy with trading Jimmy to begin with
B) Satisfied with only a 2nd rounder in return as they maintain he had 1st rd value across the league.
I’d say he’s on extremely thin ice. They can cut ties with him after this season if he stinks it up. Before his injury, he was throwing up some ducks which was talked about by the local media during the offseason. Aside from staying on the damn field, the one other weakness he needs to address is his arm strength.
Back in the day when you bought a dime bag you didn't just proclaim how much bud you got - there was also commentary about the seeds and sticks ... so the full value of the pick is just IMO and we'll know how much bud, seed and stick we got a few years from now.
Mack and OBJ are proven, durable NFL players. Jimmy was not and still isn't.I didn’t like the return but felt it was the right decision to trade him.
They got a high second round pick for a player who months later became the highest paid in the NFL at the most important position. I don’t think it’s wrong to question whether they could have gotten more value; it’s well known he was traded to the Niners in the middle of the night with other teams unaware he was available. You don’t think they could have gotten better draft value, especially with a conditional pick/conditional upgrade?
From the viewpoint at the time of the trade in 2017, if the Niners were to franchise or extend him, that’s $20M+. A first round pick is the starting point for draft compensation for a player of that value. Mack got two firsts and OBJ got a 1st and 3rd. Why not require at least a conditional first round pick if you value a player at a higher salary than both of those guys.
Mack and OBJ are proven, durable NFL players. Jimmy was not and still isn't.
I maintain Bill waited until the 11th hr to keep him and once that dream died he traded him to SF which allowed him to mitigate his risk and get Hoyer. Also because it was the trade deadline, Bill lost a bit of leverage in negotiations.
I do not believe the other teams that say they didn't know he was available. It was because BB either/and had a deal with SF and didn't want to trade him to other teams (in AFCE, CLE or other teams he doesn't like).
In closing, I have never felt Jimmy was "worth" 1st rd pick nor could they have gotten one (The Browns and SF were full of it)
SF got some oregano IMO.
Pats have received 0 contribution from anyone involved in the Garropollo trade. Zero, nada, zilch. You're telling me Josh Rosen, who f#cking sucks and never had a game the quality of Jimmy G's vs Arizon or his half vs Miami, gets a second and a fifth and Jimmy G nets only a 2nd.
Sure Bill turned it into 3,458 4th and fifth round picks, but seriously, a player of Jimmy G's caliber (much better than Josh ****ing Rosen) should've netted a player who contributes...can't wait to watch Duke Dawson cover punts..
I don’t think it’s wrong to question whether they could have gotten more value; it’s well known he was traded to the Niners in the middle of the night with other teams unaware he was available. You don’t think they could have gotten better draft value, especially with a conditional pick/conditional upgrade?
I think it's ridiculous to think that the Patriots didn't do everything possible to judge Garappolo's market value and deal accordingly.
The possibility of wanting him in the NFC could make it more complex regarding value.
They got a 2nd round pick for JAG. That's all. They didn't get a bunch of players. They got one pick. What they did with that pick is a separate issue. It's the same with the pick they traded away for Brandin Cooks. They didn't get Brandin Cooks for Ryan Ramczyk. They got him for a first round pick.
I didn’t like the return but felt it was the right decision to trade him.
They got a high second round pick for a player who months later became the highest paid in the NFL at the most important position. I don’t think it’s wrong to question whether they could have gotten more value; it’s well known he was traded to the Niners in the middle of the night with other teams unaware he was available. You don’t think they could have gotten better draft value, especially with a conditional pick/conditional upgrade?
From the viewpoint at the time of the trade in 2017, if the Niners were to franchise or extend him, that’s $20M+. A first round pick is the starting point for draft compensation for a player of that value. Mack got two firsts and OBJ got a 1st and 3rd. Why not require at least a conditional first round pick if you value a player at a higher salary than both of those guys.
The second round pick was an asset that BB masterfully manipulated into the players mentioned earlier, your sour grapes notwithstanding.
Too early to say how it will come out, but do your thoughts change at all?
No. We weren't going to pay Jimmy G as the backup and I don't think he will ever be an elite QB. Good trade.
After all that, I think I'm ready for a "land war in Asia".