What is wrong with Jacoby Brissett?

[sb1]

I have no idea what that even means, but it appears to be pretty much nonsense.
The guy had grade 2 AC shoulder separation. The question of that particular hit doing the exact same thing is subject to thousands of tiny random factors. Yes, he might have been hurt the same way. Or he might have been hurt worse. Or less. You have no way of knowing. Nor do you know anything about how JG was responding to his. But that's an injury that just isn't going to allow you to throw effectively if it hasn't subsided enough.
Not sure what you're playing for the Pats has to do with anything at all.

Then it sounds like you're not comprehending or maybe I'm not explaining it well. Either way the minute factors that go into getting hurt isn't that relevant.

I don't plan on posting or arguing further on this topic so this is the bottom line. JG got hurt on one decent hit that he took in that game. I've seen enough of Tom getting hit much harder than that again and again in a game to doubt he would have been put out of commission on the same hit which will happen dozens of times in a season. That's a concern. I've also seen enough of Tom and other top QBs playing through injuries and pain to doubt they would have forced his team to be put in the spot they were in in week 4. That's a concern. I doubt the team would have leaned on JG to play in weeks 3 and 4 unless they had reason to think he could have done it. That didn't happen. Therefore, concern.

I also see JG giving up 8 sacks in 94 career pass attempts. While I wouldn't call that sack prone just yet it's enough to be a concern. Sacks and hits get QBs hurt.

This is one of many concerns I have about JG as an option for this team post Brady. Any talk at this point that JG is or will be a superstar is laughably premature. I'm sure I'm not the only one who agrees. The end.

 

[rochrist]

What was Brady's completion percentage against the Texans?

Btw, limited game manager...sounfs like Brady in 2001 and 2002

Like this one from 2001, his fourth start: 33-54 364yds 2TDs 0INTs?
Or his fifth start: 16-20 3TDs 0INTs?
Or opening day 2002: 29-43 294yds 3TDs 0INTs?
Or his third start in 2002: 39-54 410yds 4TDs 1INTs?

And that was back when they were allowed to play pass defense.

 

[Nunchucks]

Way to cherry pick....dont forget that was after a year on the bench.....and he was called a game manager for much of his early career.

I am not trying to compare the two, but you guys are way down on Jacoby for no apparent reason

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Why is everyone dismissing the possibility that the Patriots could view Brissett as a long-term replacement for Brady?

When he was healthy and had a game plan designed for him in the Texans game I thought he showed well and he did so against the #1 defense in the NFL.

I agree that they could view him as the potential hier apparent, but unlike most posters... What I saw in that Texans game was a championship caliber team covering up his weaknesses and carrying him to a victory..

Outside of that long TD run, he looked very raw and erratic..

In the Bills game, he looked like an undrafted rookie...

I like the guy and am rooting for him to develop and get better.. but last year he didn't belong on the field.. he nearly blew the Miami game with a huge lead and miraculously they went 1-1 with him

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Apparently NE is not comfortable with him being our only backup next season, he's not it he's just a backup if he was on any other team no one would know who he is, waste of a 3rd rounder would of took him in the 5th round imo

Which to me says quite a lot.. because the Pats have been fine going with a rookie backup that they spent less than a 3rd rounder on multiple times throughout Brady's career...

Now they have a 3rd round QB and they don't trust him to be the sole backup.. that tells me they probably see Brisset as extremely raw and that he's more of a developmental project

 

[Nunchucks]

I suspect that they go with 3 no matter what, Brady could go off the cliff at any time and they will need that 3rd QB

 

[rochrist]

Way to cherry pick....dont forget that was after a year on the bench.....and he was called a game manager for much of his early career.

I am not trying to compare the two, but you guys are way down on Jacoby for no apparent reason

Ok, here's a wager for you. I'll bet that JG has a more productive career than JB. If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it, but I don't think I will be.

 

[Nunchucks]

Ok, here's a wager for you. I'll bet that JG has a more productive career than JB. If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it, but I don't think I will be.

I never claimed that Jacoby was better...jesus, just that he looked pretty good and was getting unfairly crapped on.

 

[deroc5050]

I am seriously in disbelief at how much people romanticize that Texans game.

He had 103 yards passing. He completed only 57.9% of his passes, and had a repulsive 5.42 yards per attempt, and a horrible-in-the-pass-happy-modern-era 72.9 passer rating (Brock Osweiler, who was probably the worst QB in football this year, had a rating of 72.2 on the year). Aside from that sweet bootleg where he picked up like 30 yards, this was a completely forgettable performance.

Yes, I know he was a rookie. Yes, I know he was a third-string player. He looked like both of those things. By the way people romanticize that performance, you'd think he dropped 5 TD and passed for 500 yards. He did not look "good", he looked like a limited game-manager. This was not a game where you thought, "wow, this guy has a bright future", it was a game where you thought, "wow, this is a third-string player that they are game-planning around".

I'm not saying Brissett can't develop into a good player. He is a bright kid, and we drafted him relatively high. But holy hell, nothing we saw in that Texans game is indicative of any of that, can we please stop exaggerating the performance just call a spade a spade?

yeah thats pretty accurate and obvious. He didn't turn the ball over but did pretty nothing else. I am not writing off Jacoby but he is a true unknown at this point.

 

[Tunescribe]

It would never be confirmed by the team...except of course he did have surgery right after the game...so, yeah

NashuaPats said it was announced before the Buffalo game that Brissett needed surgery on his thumb and it wasn't. What's your point?

 

[Tunescribe]

Of course all of it, and there was a lot of it, was uncomfirmed. Belichick doesn't give us anything. That's one of the realities of being a Pats fan. It was a fact that Brisset had a significant thumb injury. It was a fact that Garroppolo was stated as expected to play the day before the game. The rest was all speculation by all Boston media all week leading up to the game. You say you follow the team closely, do you honestly not remember that? There was so many attempts to read between the lines and there were reasonable different interpretations. Maybe, we disagree and/or maybe you weren't paying much attention that week.

You said it was announced before the Buffalo game that Brissett would need surgery. Not true. You said it was announced Garappolo was expected to start vs. Buffalo. Not true. That much I remember for sure.

 

[Jangles]

I'm all for optimism, but come on now

this is a classic case of overrating someone because they're on the team.

 

[NashuaPats]

You said it was announced before the Buffalo game that Brissett would need surgery. Not true. You said it was announced Garappolo was expected to start vs. Buffalo. Not true. That much I remember for sure.

 

[Nunchucks]

NashuaPats said it was announced before the Buffalo game that Brissett needed surgery on his thumb and it wasn't. What's your point?

It was reported by "sources" which turned out to be correct.

 

[RIpats88]

Remember jimmy had 2 years in the pats system when he started. Jacoby had training camp and a game and a half. Of course he was limited.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Remember jimmy had 2 years in the pats system when he started. Jacoby had training camp and a game and a half. Of course he was limited.

Training refines talent, it does not create it!

Stats may lie, but the tape never lies.

He is jag now with a ceiling of a backup,

 

[patsfan13]

Well IF JG is traded that will say everything about what BB thinks of JB, if JG isn't traded that will also say a lot about what BB thinks of JB.

Trading JG is the right thing to do. If JB were entering his 4th year and JG was coming off his rookie year I would say the same thing about rading JB.

BB saw a lot of JG as a rookie and has seen JB as a rookie, HE understands just each player is now and what they can be.

So watch what BB does instead of speculation by fanboys who haven't a clue.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Couldnt agree more, bb doesnt use a 3 on him if this isnt at least a pissibility. Give him another 2-3 years to learn under brady and we'll go from there.

 

[rochrist]

Couldnt agree more, bb doesnt use a 3 on him if this isnt at least a pissibility. Give him another 2-3 years to learn under brady and we'll go from there.

They will have drafted or maybe even two more QBs by then.

 

[Nikolai]

I'm very much wait-and-see with Brissett. But I have to admit that if BB didn't seem to like him so much, I wouldn't see the big deal.

BB does, so that piques my curiosity about what we will see from him in the future.