What is Joe Milton worth?

[stcjones]

I personally think he has huge upside and just depends on how many teams are quarterback hungry on or before the draft who may not want to spend a high pick on a quarterback and will go after Milton…… but it looks like a lot of people are talking about fourth rounder… If that’s the case, I would just keep them as your back up and keep him progressing here until the rookie contract expires or someone comes after him…

 

[PaulThePat]

Let's be honest, the only thing stopping JM3 getting to Canton is the bus fare.

 

[stcjones]

He was a 6th rounder.

He's better than every QB coming out this year except Ward and Sanders, is on an incredibly cheap 6th round contract for 3 more years, and showed he's improving dramatically. He turns 25 next month, entering his physical prime. He should be worth a 2nd. If you're a QB needy team considering Milroe or Dart in r2, why not trade for Milton?

Great post! Totally agree

 

[Triumph]

Why not keep him and develop Milton for the # 2 spot.

Flacco is only short term and Milton isnt costing anything to keep. Milton looked great vs 2nd and 3rd string players, but if some team has to have him I accept no less than a 3rd that could be a 2nd based on playing time. QBs arent growing on trees.

 

[sb1]

Again if I can get Milton for a third I make that deal every time.

The only good reason IMO to hold someone like Milton back is if you think he can win the starting job over Maye.

 

[PaulThePat]

The only good reason IMO to hold someone like Milton back is if you think he can win the starting job over Maye.

If there is anyone inside the Pats organisation who genuinely thinks this is possible then they should be told to clear their locker asap.

 

[lancerman]

5th. Maybe a 4th to a desperate team.

If he had played a couple of games and had done well vs 1st teamers then that would change everything.

This is where I am at. He's realistically worth a 5th on a paper. But some team who is desperate could maybe be talked into a 4th.

When you trade a second or third, you are trading for established starters with a track record

 

[Toofy]

I think 3rd round is a good round to get a backup QB and that's a real value of a decent backup QB for the current team. So if we can just get a 3rd round for him with 3 more rookie years left, you keep him.

You trade him for a 3rd rounder or lower on his last year of the deal.

At this point walk away if you are getting anything less than 2nd or swap of 2nd round for your 4th or 5th.

I know Milton is a okay backup. There is no guarantee that a 3rd rounder will amount to anything. 2nd round at least is a decent trade chip.

 

[Pape]

Is he better than Cunningham?

 

[Patsfan1645]

Interesting results so far...

i think some wildly overestimate his value based on the strength of a game where the other team didn't play defense...

Exactly.....One game against 3rd string players on a team that had no interest in winning the game. And we have people claiming he is worth a second round pick....lol!

A much larger sample size of his body of work was his college career and he lands in the 6th round of the draft yet one game makes him so much more valuable? Is he the next TB? I have my doubts.

 

[Sect140]

I would say a 5th round pick, however I want Vrabel and his staff to coach and develop him this summer and then see what he looks like in pre-season, see what he looks like after camps with Josh. Maybe he plays his way to 2nd string or plays well enough to warrant a higher draft pick.

 

[jdlboot14]

He was a 6th rounder.

He's better than every QB coming out this year except Ward and Sanders, is on an incredibly cheap 6th round contract for 3 more years, and showed he's improving dramatically. He turns 25 next month, entering his physical prime. He should be worth a 2nd. If you're a QB needy team considering Milroe or Dart in r2, why not trade for Milton?

I say he's better than Ward & Sanders - by far. Sorry, but the college hype is not going to age well for those 2 guys. If you're a team looking for a re-set at QB, you'd be 50% more likely to succeed with Milton than ANY rookie this year. Mainly because he's spent a year working out his kinks, and he has all the physical tools. He's worth a 2nd round pick, because you can hit the ground running this season, not wasting a year to figure out if you have a guy or not.
(not that I think Milton will turn into a top echelon QB, but he could give you 4 years of average competition)

 

[upstater1]

He's worth a 2nd because that's all the Patriots would accept to trade him.

In the NFL, you want wins. Look around the league. QBs are always getting hurt.

Maye missed a game this very past year.

You want to maximize your chance of winning every game, and no 4th rounder is going to maximize that opportunity like a competent QB could.

The important thing here is not Milton's valuation around the league. It is Milton's value to the Patriots, and that value is a 2nd.

 

[sturmrider]

To the Patriots he is worth a 2nd rounder to the rest of the league maybe a 4th. My reasoning on the Patriots value is simple when you trade Milton you are trading him and a draft pick because now you have to draft another QB to develop as a replacement. This is the only reason why he would be worth that 2nd rounder. If he didn't leave a vacuum as a backup it would be a different story.

Looking at the draft and the qbs available who knows one of those teams may say yes I will give you my 2nd round draft pick, but I have to admit I don't see it.

 

[yukon cornelius]

i think a 4th is reasonable......he's worth more than his draft value in that he'd likely be no worse than QB4 in this draft, it's that weak......ward, dart, maybe sanders above him.......and sanders is likely to be way over drafted.....

he was selected as QB9 last year.......a year where the top 6 QBs all would have been QB1 this year

so his value, despite being down one year of his rookie deal, is higher than his draft position.......the other factor is how many teams are QB desperate? that is in play at this point.........some might be willing to give it one more year (titans) in hopes of a better class

i think they can wait and get more for him after he shows a little more, has a little more time to develop........but there's no guarantee, more time might lower his value lol......

if you can get a 4, you jump imho........

 

[yukon cornelius]

He's worth a 2nd because that's all the Patriots would accept to trade him.

In the NFL, you want wins. Look around the league. QBs are always getting hurt.

Maye missed a game this very past year.

You want to maximize your chance of winning every game, and no 4th rounder is going to maximize that opportunity like a competent QB could.

The important thing here is not Milton's valuation around the league. It is Milton's value to the Patriots, and that value is a 2nd.

if maye goes down long term, the season is done.....you just hope you can still develop the young guys on offense........if you need someone to handle one game or limited time, there's plenty of vets that can handle the gig just as well, likely better.....

 

[upstater1]

if maye goes down long term, the season is done.....you just hope you can still develop the young guys on offense........if you need someone to handle one game or limited time, there's plenty of vets that can handle the gig just as well, likely better.....

People overemphasize that it was the Bills 3rd stringers, when the fact is they had half their starters out there, including their stars like Milano. Teams aren't that deep.

And beyond that, he was getting rushed out of the pocket and he was making his plays. A lot of his plays were not against a soft defense as much as they were broken plays.

Sure, the Bills may not have been playing hard, but you "plenty of vets" line is wrong. Brisset would not have been able to accomplish much of anything in those same circumstances and the same goes for Mariota or Rudolph, etc. Only a top tier backup would.

 

[hornetfb85]

Love that headline on the ticker:
Source: Patriots will likely consider trading Milton
We’ll no ****in s***
My source at Dixie’s Playhouse could have come up with that nugget

 

[Wozzy]

I’m holding Milton until Maye proves himself, and proves that he can eliminate the random brain fart interceptions.

Also Milton is an ascending asset, you don’t sell a stock at 8% if you see a clear trend that it’s still climbing.

If Milton is worth a 3rd now, what’s he worth a year from now when Maye proves he is a stud, Vrabel turns this into a premier operation again and Milton lights it up next preseason? A 2nd, a 1st?

A fully trained QB ready to start is worth a lot more. BB didn’t get the offer he wanted for JimmyG back in the offseason, so he waited until the last possible second and got the same compensation he got offered back in the offseason. If Jimmy had played those four games during the Brady suspension a first round pick was guaranteed.

Hold Milton, just in case, force someone to offer the moon out of desperation. QB’s are a premium position.

 

[Wozzy]

People overemphasize that it was the Bills 3rd stringers, when the fact is they had half their starters out there, including their stars like Milano. Teams aren't that deep.

And beyond that, he was getting rushed out of the pocket and he was making his plays. A lot of his plays were not against a soft defense as much as they were broken plays.

Sure, the Bills may not have been playing hard, but you "plenty of vets" line is wrong. Brisset would not have been able to accomplish much of anything in those same circumstances and the same goes for Mariota or Rudolph, etc. Only a top tier backup would.

People also overlook that Milton was a 24 year old rookie, like Bo Nix he was one of the most experienced QB’s in that draft class. He can improve but he’s pretty fleshed out to begin with. I liked him as a prospect late in the draft, like him now. Hold onto him, his value will grow.