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  1. scott99

    scott99 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    This is the bottom line. I don't care who the QB is, I just want them to win. I think even if Cam wins the starting job, Stidham will get to play some, due to Cam's history issues.
     
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    lancerman In the Starting Line-Up

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    Any scenario like this involved trading up. People would have freaked out at the amount of capital that would cost. Especially with Brady on the roster
     
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    lancerman In the Starting Line-Up

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    Don’t be foolish
     
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    amfootball Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Oh stop. We could have Lamar Jackson for nothing. We could have had Jordan Love for nothing. We could have bundled our plethora of picks this year to move anywhere we wanted but Bill drafted NO ONE. I mean how else do you think you find a franchise QB? In the draft. Not sure why Bill went brain dead at the most important position after drafting a QB every other year that we had Brady. My only conclusion is that he really thought Brady would stay on crap deals forever.
     
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    It isn’t. This team is not a 1-15 team - what it would probably take to get the first overall pick- in any way shape or form.
     
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    amfootball Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Never say never.
     
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    I also think if Stidham wins the starting job and if Cam can be persuaded to stay, Cam will get to play some, due to Stidham's inexperience that will likely manifest itself as being unable to anticipate taking a big hit. For example, like the sack/body slam that injured JG during Tom's suspension.

    Most all NFL teams need two legit QBs. TB12 gave us the luxury of avoiding that, but we are having a reentry into the real world now.
     
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    Only two rookie QBs under Belichick have thrown more than one TD in the preseason: Garoppolo (5) and Stidham (4).
     
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    So Ray was innocent.
     
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    Never. Confidently so. Not with this coach.

    Without this coach..possibly.
     
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    That’s great. I’m so proud of him for doing that in a game nobody tries in. He had one NFL experience in about as easy a situation as it gets, and he failed. That doesn’t mean he’s trash. But there is no reason to believe he deserved investment. Anecdotal evidence in games that don’t matter are useless
     
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    Looking at Cam Newton's stats his average typical season over 8 playing seasons is:

    - 3600 passing yards
    - 24 TD
    - 14 INT
    - 600 rushing yards
    - 7 rushing TDs

    If he can lower his annual INT and improve his passing % to 65% this would be incredible.

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    It's up to BB, but we have enough QB's on the roster now
     
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    Does Lamar Jackson help in 2018?

    This year, is Jordan Love really enough of an improvement over Stidham, especially given that Love was playing Mountain West teams rather than SEC teams, to justify a first-round pick?
     
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    I don't know why anyone would assume Love is a big upgrade on Stidham.
     
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    Yes we could have reached on a QB who was projected as the 5th best QB while we still had Brady instead of getting one of the best lineman in the draft
     
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    Via Reiss, the 2017 quote from Belichick on Cam:
     
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    Winning the afc east has become easier.
     
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    PS Never read the Patsfans game day thread. It will frighten you.
     
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    Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

    Newton has a very large uphill battle to make the team, let alone be the starting QB.

    Hoyer has multiple years in the system. Edelman is the only receiver he's got experience with.

    Stidham has a year in the system and supposedly learned the play-book extremely quickly. So much so that it might have been one of the reasons the Patriots felt they could move on from Brady. Stidham has practice experience with all the receivers except the rooks.

    Newton is a low-risk, high reward signing. He's coming from a completely different system. He's put himself behind the curve waiting so long to sign. He'll have about a month until Training camp to learn as much of the terminology and play-book as possible.

    Newton is coming in with a stigma of not being entirely a "Team" player. We've seen how Belichick can be with people who draw undo attention to themselves (Welker - Toegate). If Newton comes in and buys in to the "Patriot Way" and "Do YOUR Job" while learning the playbook, then he'll be successful here and earn himself a nice contract next year. Otherwise, he'll be gone before Training Camp is over and the Patriots will be none the worse.
     
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