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Patriots Pregame Thread Week 4 discussion: Panthers @ Pats

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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No Chizzy again. What do we have to lose by giving the kid a shot?
The game.
Obv the coaches trust Pop more.
 
No Chizzy again. What do we have to lose by giving the kid a shot?
It's one of two things: he's as good as people want to believe or player politics.
 
Ben Brown reminds me of Karras a lot.

Can hold his own at the point of attack, but incredibly immobile,

Do not expect a running game today.
 
Ben Brown reminds me of Karras a lot.

Can hold his own at the point of attack, but incredibly immobile,

Do not expect a running game today.
I’m still hopeful about the running game. Has been a huge disappointment so far and they will continue to struggle without a more efficient running game.
 
It appears there will be no meaningful consequences for Rhamondre and no shot for Chism at replacing pick-your-ineffectual-WR. Maybe if Rhamondre REALLY ****s up, Vrabel will give him a game ball. Apparently that's Tough Guy's idea of discipline. This better work, or there are going to a lot of fully justified doubts expressed re Vrabel's approach to coaching the team. Both losses are the result of lack of focus and discipline. That's on your coach, who, it seems, might be more of a squish than we ever would have expected.
 
This game is going to tell me a lot.

Panthers defense is solid, special teams are VERY good, offense is terrible.

This is a very winnable game for a team GETTING BETTER EACH WEEK.

We are about to see if that is happening or if it’s just a lot more empty words.

I was in favor of Vrabel’s hiring, but the discipline and football smarts have not improved at all thus far.

I can live with growing pains and losses.

I can’t watch the same old dumbass **** we’ve seen for 4 years.
 
I was in favor of Vrabel’s hiring, but the discipline and football smarts have not improved at all thus far.

I can live with growing pains and losses.

I can’t watch the same old dumbass **** we’ve seen for 4 years.
We thought Vrabel would bring discipline and smart football, but so far the penalties and turnovers have been excessive. Let's hope it stops today.
 
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