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Davante Adams is a Beast last Three games 140 -132 and 133 I would give Gilmore help occasionally over the Top. Adams is Big and Fast!

He's playing as well as any receiver in the league right now. His ability to release off the line, his sharp cuts, and his alertness to work back to the QB on scramble drills make him very dangerous.



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Davante Adams has 52 catches for 690 yards and 6 TDs through 7 games, top-10 in all three categories league wide. In primary coverage, he's faced:

Kyle Fuller
Xavier Rhodes
Josh Norman
Tre White
Darius Slay
Marcus Peters
 
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Considering he looks like he's running in quicksand, my guess would be that he's pretty well banged up.

Maybe precautionary with Gronk giving him every other Day off. If he's absent tomorrow then we can worry some.
 
Interestingly since they last played in 2014, Brady has gone to 3 Superbowls. Lol the packers are sleeping and wasting away Rogers, they are the epidemy of an underperforming franchise.
 
You'll be screaming as loud as the rest of us when he hauls in a 20 yard seam in.

Then right after I would go blind like Ralphie in a Christmas story....What caused your blindness?? It's the Hollister reception.
 
Interestingly since they last played in 2014, Brady has gone to 3 Superbowls. Lol the packers are sleeping and wasting away Rogers, they are the epidemy of an underperforming franchise.

Maybe the real issue is that Rodgers is the epitome of an under performing QB. Brady found a way to drag bad defenses to the Super Bowl in 2011 and 2017. Rodgers has a hard time even getting his team to the NFCCG.
 
Maybe precautionary with Gronk giving him every other Day off. If he's absent tomorrow then we can worry some.
He was not moving well on Monday. Looked injured on Monday and now missing practice. Not a great sign. He and Gordon combined for 85 yards Monday. Will need more Sunday.
 
I’m really concerned about Gronk. He has simply not been close to the dominate presence we’re used to.
 
Just watching Gronk makes my back hurt.

He gets up from a hit the way I get out of bed in the morning. And that is NOT a good thing.
 
Maybe the real issue is that Rodgers is the epitome of an under performing QB. Brady found a way to drag bad defenses to the Super Bowl in 2011 and 2017. Rodgers has a hard time even getting his team to the NFCCG.

A fair point too, considering Rogers insane stat line. Someone of his caliber - Micheal Jordan like status - should have been able to carry his team to greater height a lot more.
 
A fair point too, considering Rogers insane stat line. Someone of his caliber - Micheal Jordan like status - should have been able to carry his team to greater height a lot more.


Another thing we hear a lot is about Rodgers and his INT ratio/percentage, and how he's the best in NFL history. But that's unfair to QBs who started before him, because of rules changes. So, if you start Rodgers when he became Rodgers (2009) and compare him Brady once he was recovered from his ACL injury (2010), in order to even the playing field, you actually get the same percentage (1.4%).

Aaron Rodgers Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Tom Brady Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com


I have nothing against Rodgers. It's not his fault that the media is so starved for drama that it's jumped from Brady v. Manning/Montana for G.O.A.T. to Brady v. Rodgers for G.O.A.T. in order to keep a (non) storyline alive. But I don't think we should just buy into the hype, either.
 
I’m really concerned about Gronk. He has simply not been close to the dominate presence we’re used to.
Yeah. The question is if this is a couple of lingering injuries he'll recover from or if things are breaking down and this is the beginning of the end.
 
I think I can help put some things into perspective for this game.

I did power rankings for every team this week, looking at how they play at home/on the road, depending where they’re playing this week.

The stats I look at are home/away record, their Intelligence Index, and their Total Team Rating.

First, looking at their Record, the Patriots are ranked 1st with a 4-0 record at home while the Packers are ranked last out of the 24 team playing this week with a 0-3 record on the road. Not much analysis needed for that.

The Intelligence Index is Bendability-Scoreability.

Bendability and Scoreability are both calculated by doing Yards/Points. Bendability is the Defensive Yards and Points, Scoreability is the Offensive.

A low number as a result is good for Scoreability, because the lower the number the more efficiently an offense scores (really how efficiently the team scores. Defensive/Special Team TD’s, turnovers, field position etc. play a part in Bendability and Scoreability). And the higher the number for Bendability, the stingier the team is at allowing scores.

The Patriots at home have a Scoreability of 12.16. So it takes them 12.16 yards to score 1 point and 85.12 to score 7. They have a Bendability of 15.19. So opposing offenses have to travel 106.33 yards to score 7 points. They have an Intelligence Index score of 3.03 which is ranked 8th.

The Packers’ Scoreability on the road is at 18.21. So it takes them 127.47 yards to score 7 points. Their Bendability is at 11.71, so it takes opposing offenses 81.97 yards to score 7 points. Their Intelligence Index score is -6.50 which is ranked 22nd.

The Total Team Rating is basically Passer Rating Differential for the whole team. Cold Hard Football Facts created Real Quarterback Rating which is Passer Rating with a QB’s rushes, sacks, and fumbles thrown in and it was wildly successful so I just applied it to the whole team.

The Patriot’s Offensive Rating at home is a 100.3 while their defense is an 84.5. So their Total Team Rating at home is a 15.8, which is ranked 5th.

The Packer’s Offensive Rating on the road is an 85.0 while their defense is a 99.8. So their Total Team Rating is a -14.8, which is ranked 20th.

The Patriots at home ranked number 4th overall in this week’s power rankings while the Packers on the road are 23rd out of 24 teams.

So on paper this should be a Patriots blowout.


But naturally it’s gonna be a high scoring shootout that comes down to the last second so what do I know
 
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He's playing as well as any receiver in the league right now. His ability to release off the line, his sharp cuts, and his alertness to work back to the QB on scramble drills make him very dangerous.



EDIT: The tweet is displaying strangely, so:

Davante Adams has 52 catches for 690 yards and 6 TDs through 7 games, top-10 in all three categories league wide. In primary coverage, he's faced:

Kyle Fuller
Xavier Rhodes
Josh Norman
Tre White
Darius Slay
Marcus Peters


BB is always about taking away your best player, so hopefully he does something to contain him.
 
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