Vinatieri ribs BB in his HOF speech

[State]

Nixon now has a better reputation than Belichick. Just sayin.

 

[rkarp1]

how much of Adam V's inauguration is due to being an elite level FGK and how much is due to longevity?

 

[State]

For certain, he made the greatest kick in playoff history against the Raiders (I'll never forget it; what a game!)

Greatest field goal of all time considering the circumstances. I wonder when it'll be eclipsed. Could be years yet.

 

[rkarp1]

Nixon now has a better reputation than Belichick. Just sayin.

it's sad
Bill is a national laughingstock

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

I know this is controversial, but I don't believe he deserves to be in the Hall. He was one of the best of alltime, but arguably not the best ever. For certain, he made the greatest kick in playoff history against the Raiders (I'll never forget it; what a game!), but otherwise he wasn't "clutch" . He missed a lot of kicks in the playoffs (made about 81% of his kicks, to rank about 20th on the list overall). We forget his multiple misses like against Carolina in the Superbowl. Missed a 23 yarder and an extra point against the Chiefs when they lost by three points against the Chiefs in the divisional round for Indy. He was excellent but not substantially better overall and not automatic in the playoffs. If you want to add a kicker he would be the choice, but he is, in my mind, a little overrated. Better than Tucker? The Hall of Very Good....

He doesn't deserve to be in the HOF because a better kicker who is not yet eligible is not in the HOF?

That's like saying it's a travesty that Drew Brees is in the HOF before Brady. Well, there's a reason for that.

And as it's pointed out later in this thread, kickers are more accurate across the board now. Very good QB stats from the 1990s and 2000s would in a lot of cases be considered below average in today's NFL. That's the nature of the sport.

 

[Thelonious]

Nixon now has a better reputation than Belichick. Just sayin.

"Sayin'" what?

 

[mosi's man]

He was 7/10 in Super Bowls and played until 2021, across a couple eras. Don't get me wrong, I think he was very, very good. The kick against the Raiders was the greatest kick in NFL history, but overall he was very good, not great and, I think, based on that kick, was labeled as more "clutch" than lots of other kickers when his record speak otherwise. If we let him in for the Raiders/Rams, does Eli Manning get it as well? I don't think so on either. Not saying I'm right, but I don't think it's a slam dunk.

 

[Wozzy]

He was 7/10 in Super Bowls and played until 2021, across a couple eras. Don't get me wrong, I think he was very, very good. The kick against the Raiders was the greatest kick in NFL history, but overall he was very good, not great and, I think, based on that kick, was labeled as more "clutch" than lots of other kickers when his record speak otherwise. If we let him in for the Raiders/Rams, does Eli Manning get it as well? I don't think so on either. Not saying I'm right, but I don't think it's a slam dunk.

Adam hit two kicks in that snow game, the 45 yarder in a blizzard that got them to overtime, then the 23 yard game winner.

Oh yeah, then he slammed the door in overtime on the Rams in the Super Bowl with a 48 yarder.

I think it’s safe to call him “clutch.”

 

[Raccoonsuit]

He played 24 years in the NFL and 10 years with the Patriots so more than half his career was elsewhere.

I knew this already but it's so weird that this is true. Played until he was 47!

 

[State]

Remember when he caught Herschel Walker from behind? Unbelievable.