Update: Krafts honors girl who was booed at Colts Game

[alamo]

Disagree all you want. You can't tell me she won't think of that for the rest of her life. Will she need therepy? Of course not. But the fact remains she was affected especially at her age. She thought it was funny? Why do people laugh at a wake then? It's just a natural reaction to protect ones self from great sadness or fear. I'm not making "more" out of this, but a little compassion and understanding goes a long way. She 's a kid for gods sake.

"The fact remains" is no fact at all, it's your opinion which is not supported by the published interviews with her.

Why do people constantly refer to her as a "child" or "a kid" as if she's a 6 year old? It's demeaning to her. Yes, a 14 year old meets the strict dictionary definition "A person who has not attained maturity or the age of legal majority" but not the more common usage "A person between birth and puberty". If you use the same definition almost every person who has at times been attacked here for their actions in High School or College could be considered a "child", e.g. Darren McFadden, Randy Moss, Marcus Vick, etc.

 

[alamo]

Anna may "rock" but she's about to be used for a merchandising campaign.

I hope you don't really believe that this manipulation of the symbols of uniform and allegiance has one damned thing to do with the humanity of a little girl's feelings. If you believe that then you probably will vote for a liar and thief in the next election, because liars and thieves create the same illusions - the illusions that they know we want to see.

We want to see it so badly that we'll deliberately falsify the circumstances to fake our own selves out. This whole thing is about one-upping the Colts in a lame attempt to make the Patriots organization look like saints. PATHETIC, and this girl, Anna, should tell them to stick it.

Oh, but she wants the cheers of the crowd too, so she'll gladly allow herself to be manipulated and used. She'll delude herself into believing that the fans actually care about her. There will be this big outpouring of phony love and everybody will go home thinking that they all took part in something special. What is going to be special is the kraftiness of the illusion.

No you think I don't like Bob Kraft. I didn't say that. I don't like some of Bob's allegiance to Corporate Values, sure, but I don't think he's all bad. I didn't make it out to be black and white - that is something that lame brains like to do. I just can't imagine thinking that this dog and pony show is for real, and that Bob's motives are about the girl.

You are completely over-the-top cynical. The benefit to the team is miniscule, "one-upping the Colts in a lame attempt to make the Patriots organization look like saints" is ridiculous. There isn't a sports team in the country who wouldn't do something like this to honor one of their fans in a similar circumstance. You could have attacked the whole PPK program in the first place, but then you'd be unable to single out Kraft.

 

[JaxPats]

"The fact remains" is no fact at all, it's your opinion which is not supported by the published interviews with her.

Why do people constantly refer to her as a "child" or "a kid" as if she's a 6 year old? It's demeaning to her. Yes, a 14 year old meets the strict dictionary definition "A person who has not attained maturity or the age of legal majority" but not the more common usage "A person between birth and puberty". If you use the same definition almost every person who has at times been attacked here for their actions in High School or College could be considered a "child", e.g. Darren McFadden, Randy Moss, Marcus Vick, etc.

Do you have kids? I have six. I think that qualifys me as having a pretty good read on what kids feel at that age. 65,000 screaming "adults" who are booing her has to affect her in some negative way. If you can't understand that, I feel sorry for you. I doubt in her young life she has experienced anything even remotely close to that. I also thought she handled it pretty well, at least on tv.

 

[FrontSeven]

Be prepared to be bombarded by people who think it's blasphemy to even think that Kraft is all about making money. You should be throwing rose petals at Kraft's feet if you ask them.

I think (no quote included) that you are talking to me?

Right, I'll get skewered because I disrupted the illusion. They want to watch David Copperfield make an island disappear and go home believing that the island disappeared. They don't want to know how the trick is performed - that would be too brutal and humiliating.

The trick is performed by first having a nose to sniff symbolic and mythical conflicts that you think you can leverage. The wildebeast-brains will fall for this every time. Why do you think America loves oil wars? They paint a villian on the screen, and we're good to go.

The Colts fans painted the villain. Now all that's left to do is swoop in and leverage the image to corporate and mythical advantage.

What's ironic is that drunk Patriots fans would have done the same EXACT thing to a girl wearing a Colts jersey. This is a circumstantial wind-fall only, one where people delude themselves into believing that they are morally superior to fans of other teams. What a crock.

 

[alamo]

Do you have kids? I have six.

Yes, I do, though not quite that old. But I think you severely underestimate the girl. She wasn't plucked from the coziness of her sheltered living room and put directly into the chorus of boos. She went through a whole sequence of competitions and experiences culminating in the trip to Indy. All of that has undoubtedly given her the experience and context to handle this with little ill effect if any at all. Unless she is traumatized by being mentioned on Sportscenter

Right, I'll get skewered because I disrupted the illusion.

Your simplistic and biased approach is the real reason.

What's ironic is that drunk Patriots fans would have done the same EXACT thing to a girl wearing a Colts jersey. This is a circumstantial wind-fall only, one where people delude themselves into believing that they are morally superior to fans of other teams. What a crock.

That certainly is true, as you can see from many of the posts here. But your posts load up a simple point like that with a lot of grandiose self-serving BS.

 

[JaxPats]

Yes, I do, though not quite that old. But I think you severely underestimate the girl. She wasn't plucked from the coziness of her sheltered living room and put directly into the chorus of boos. She went through a whole sequence of competitions and experiences culminating in the trip to Indy. All of that has undoubtedly given her the experience and context to handle this with little ill effect if any at all. Unless she is traumatized by being mentioned on Sportscenter


Well lets hope so. She seemed as I said ok on tv. Not that old yet huh? Boy, are you in for a ride. LOL. How many do you have?

 

[CTPatsFan]

Major props to the girl for having the proverbial "balls" to wear her Pats jersey, with pride, in the belly of the beast. She deserves recognition for that alone. Or maybe all of the contestants wear their home teams jersey? IDK, seems like a good move by Kraft no matter what. It's a win-win.

Now if the tides were turned and it were a girl wearing a Colts jersey here, not only would I boo but I'd probably throw a snowball at her, too. JUST JOKING! Rash Generalization Alert!

 

[PantsB]

By the way you don't need hypotheticals. I've been to games where they brought out the P,P&K winners. I've seen kids who wore rival jerseys (Miami, NYJ and GB soon after the 96 SB IIRC) and they weren't booed. It was more because no one cared than anything to be honest but ...

 

[CTPatsFan]

Do you have kids? I have six. I think that qualifys me as having a pretty good read on what kids feel at that age.

And I thought I was foolish with four!

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Do you have kids? I have six. I think that qualifys me as having a pretty good read on what kids feel at that age. 65,000 screaming "adults" who are booing her has to affect her in some negative way. If you can't understand that, I feel sorry for you. I doubt in her young life she has experienced anything even remotely close to that. I also thought she handled it pretty well, at least on tv.

Certainly doesn't qualify you as an expert on birth control.

Different things effect different people differently. She seemed okay to me. Maybe your kids are more sensitive then others and would have started crying. She actually seemed to enjoy he extra attention she got that night.

Some Patriot fans actually enjoy the fact others are jealous.

Her reaction does not excuse the rude behavior of the drunk adults. But she won't be in therapy 20 years from now over this.

 

[bpeter17]

They may have booed the girl in Indy, but I doubt they beat the hell out of anyone in a Chargers jersey on Sunday...

 

[Joker]

She was laughing?...yeah...nervous laughter...in the hope that things didn't get even uglier. Nice of you to slough it off as good natured "funnin"....it wasn't funny, it was DESPICABLE...and BTW, WE don't boo kids up here...moonheaded nosepickers and psychotically jealous GM's, yes.....little girls,no.

 

[SavioKid]

Of course we boo kids up here: I use to see it all the time with kids wearing Habs shirts (that's Canadiens for non-hockey); Spankee shirts & Jets stuff. And I saw it worst than booing! Don't come across that we are all 'high and mighty' royalty class citizens or something since the Bostonians I grew up with were loud mouth Irish Italian catholics! (which I was one but have mellowed out)
Point is: some initial boos would of easily been interpreted as aginst the jersey & then some aplause at the end would be expected / appropriate even! i would definitely do that to a Colt jersey

 

[JaxPats]

"If my son wore a Colts shirt in your stadium, I would hope that you would give him the same boo's. "


I bet your son is very proud of you. Does he call you dad or a**hole.

 

[Dojo Chargerfan]

Kraft is first class all the way.

 

[NEPat]

Of course we boo kids up here: I use to see it all the time with kids wearing Habs shirts (that's Canadiens for non-hockey); Spankee shirts & Jets stuff. And I saw it worst than booing! Don't come across that we are all 'high and mighty' royalty class citizens or something since the Bostonians I grew up with were loud mouth Irish Italian catholics! (which I was one but have mellowed out)
Point is: some initial boos would of easily been interpreted as aginst the jersey & then some aplause at the end would be expected / appropriate even! i would definitely do that to a Colt jersey

Oh no!!! How dare you say that Boston fans would subject a mere child to taunts and boos! Don't you know that only happens in the unclassiest of all unclassy cities, Indy? Boston fans would rather die than boo a kid wearing a rival jersey, subjecting her to a life full of tears and therapy. For shame.

 

[AStack75]

It was all in fun for wearing a Patriots shirt in our stadium. This would be no different in any other stadium that had such a great rivalry. Hell, everyone was laughing and having a good time with it.

That's how I took it. But a lot of people here whether it's because of the fact that it was a kid who apparently needs to be protected or the fact the Colts fans deemed themselves classier than Patriots fans, think it's the most uncalled for thing in the history of booing and that Indy fans (and Pats fans like myself who didn't think it was a big deal) should be burned at the stake.

Some people just take themselves way too seriously and there's nothing you can do about it.

 

[Joker]

sorry Savio..you're from Southie?

I'm from Prov, half Irish/half Italian

I've NEVER booed a child in my life and my friends and I would give a really hard time to any cretin who did, when we were younger.I thought crap like this ended in the 80's....oh wait...Indy IS 25 years behind the times...that explains it

 

[SavioKid]

sorry Savio..you're from Southie?

I'm from Prov, half Irish/half Italian

I've NEVER booed a child in my life and my friends and I would give a really hard time to any cretin who did, when we were younger.I thought crap like this ended in the 80's....oh wait...Indy IS 25 years behind the times...that explains it

Please .. there is a difference between 'booing' and giving a kid the business with bordeline antagonize into a fight / beer thrown on / etc....U would know a half-hearted boo and what it meant! I wouldn't bring 'church' manners into a game since I had enuf of that growing up but I wouldn't pick on an easy target unrelentingly!! (From Eastie ..catholic schools ..half-n-half too)

Indy is a bunch of rednecks but that booing is definitely showing their jealously of how great the PATS are & will be (as long as Brady sticks around)!!!

 

[bpeter17]

That's how I took it. But a lot of people here whether it's because of the fact that it was a kid who apparently needs to be protected or the fact the Colts fans deemed themselves classier than Patriots fans, think it's the most uncalled for thing in the history of booing and that Indy fans (and Pats fans like myself who didn't think it was a big deal) should be burned at the stake.

Some people just take themselves way too seriously and there's nothing you can do about it.

amen.

tell me what happens when some 14 year old girl walks onto the field at fenway in an arod jersey - she doesn't get booed? Are you people kidding me?


Beat the sh*t our of jags fans who are minding their own business? Sure

Boo a kid? No way, what kind of people do you think we are!