Tua

[DaBruinz]

A LOT of current and ex-players including Raiders' Coach Antonio Pierce have come out and said that Tua should retire. That every play going forward risks his mental and physical health..

 

[UGAPatsfan]

This could get very ugly on purely the business side.

Let’s say he gets “cleared” (which already happened too soon once leading to him getting hurt again and the NFLPA firing the independent neurologist who cleared him).

But, he weighs the risk and decides not to play….technically the Dolphins could say he isn’t injured and not pay him.

It would be a legal battle that I’m not sure the NFL would want optically.

But beyond all that…kid should hang em up.

Nothing is worth basically guaranteeing severe CTE sooner than later.

Honestly, I can’t help wonder if it’s already too late for that.

 

[jeremy2020]

I have no idea why he went head first. Absolutely no reason to do that.

My opinion is that they were getting trucked and he was a big part of it. He's been owned by Allen who's well known for that sort of thing and answering question after question about being owned by Allen and the Bills all week. He was close to the endzone and he wanted it bad and like when anyone wants something too badly.. they make poor decisions. He had the 1st already. It made no logical sense so I assume it was emotional.

This could get very ugly on purely the business side.

Let’s say he gets “cleared” (which already happened too soon once leading to him getting hurt again and the NFLPA firing the independent neurologist who cleared him).

But, he weighs the risk and decides not to play….technically the Dolphins could say he isn’t injured and not pay him.

It would be a legal battle that I’m not sure the NFL would want optically.

But beyond all that…kid should hang em up.

Nothing is worth basically guaranteeing severe CTE sooner than later.

Honestly, I can’t help wonder if it’s already too late for that.

I'd assume they would have an injury settlement that would allow them to spread out the cap hit if he chose that.

 

[jdlboot14]

Imagine if Dolphins trade for Mac Jones.
If Tua has lingering effects, or long-term concerns, they need more than Skylar.
Jones would come full circle and follow Tua again. That'd be wild.
And while I have no sellers remorse, Mac could actually do decent in that offense with McDaniel.
Imagine.

 

[Jim Beankie]

Dang of all the people...

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

A LOT of current and ex-players including Raiders' Coach Antonio Pierce have come out and said that Tua should retire. That every play going forward risks his mental and physical health..

That could be considered tampering by Pierce. I'm not a big fan of giving anyone, especially someone you've never even met, medical advice.

I would hope he gets a second opinion from a doctor NOT PAID BY THE NFL.

 

[Pape]

He also needed to learn to play with a sense of self preservation after his college career ended with a catastrophic out of pocket hit. He’s the last player in the league who should be diving headfirst to get a first down in garbage time.

good point.

 

[rochrist]

That could be considered tampering by Pierce. I'm not a big fan of giving anyone, especially someone you've never even met, medical advice.

I would hope he gets a second opinion from a doctor NOT PAID BY THE NFL.

No it couldn't.

 

[vicspats]

It is easy for people with no skin in the game to tell other people what to do.

Tua has about 120 million reasons to keep playing.

That you McDaniels??

 

[vicspats]

Concussions are weird. Very case by case. I think Matt Hoffman (professional BMX) has enough concussions for 5 NFL players and he's still going. I bet Edelman has quite a few concussions. Hard to understand where that cut off mark is.

Also the severity of each will differ

 

[ahmed]

I slipped on ice and fell on my head and got a concussion about 16 months ago.

To this day I still have after effects. Any tiny bump on my head triggers headaches and dizziness (different from a regular headache) that last a couple days. I have a desk job and get headaches anytime I work on something that requires continuous concentration for a few hours.

I said he was insane to keep playing after last hit but so much worse to go back now that he has made a lot more money.

I was also extremely shocked the Dolphins gave him that much money in guarantees. Any doctor or person who has gone through multiple concussions will tell you this was only a matter of time. I was 100% certain he would not last the entire length of the contract given his size and way he plays.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I slipped on ice and fell on my head and got a concussion about 16 months ago.

To this day I still have after effects. Any tiny bump on my head triggers headaches and dizziness (different from a regular headache) that last a couple days. I have a desk job and get headaches anytime I work on something that requires continuous concentration for a few hours.

You have to think tua experiences these type of effects as well.

Doesn’t Brandon Carlo of the Boston bruins also struggle with similar effects from multiple concussions??????

 

[Stu Pidassle]

This could get very ugly on purely the business side.

Let’s say he gets “cleared” (which already happened too soon once leading to him getting hurt again and the NFLPA firing the independent neurologist who cleared him).

But, he weighs the risk and decides not to play….technically the Dolphins could say he isn’t injured and not pay him.

It would be a legal battle that I’m not sure the NFL would want optically.

But beyond all that…kid should hang em up.

Nothing is worth basically guaranteeing severe CTE sooner than later.

Honestly, I can’t help wonder if it’s already too late for that.

The NFL's desire to have the concussion problem go away is also part of the ugly business side. Unless there are clear findings specific to Tua's condition I don't think the league wants to open the can of worms that would come with a concussion related retirement. Almost any NFL veteran is likely to have demonstrable brain injury at some level. What is to stop anyone with an injury guaranteed contract from cashing in without risking further injuries?

 

[SammyBlueCat]

I did not see the game but when I saw the scrolling text at the bottom of ESPN I Immediately said "oh no".

Tua is a good guy.

 

[Water Boy]

If I'm the Dolphins I'm on the phone right now with Andy Reid to acquire Bailey Zappy.

 

[JohnJH]

It is easy for people with no skin in the game to tell other people what to do.

Tua has about 120 million reasons to keep playing.

Yes, he does have financial incentive to keep playing. On the other hand, if he does keep playing and gets another concussion(s), he puts himself closer to being in the Junior Seau category, and as I recall, that didn't end well for him. So the question then becomes: What's more important 1. More money (as he is already well to do and will still get part of his contract if he can't play again), or 2. His long-term health and quality of life.

 

[Triumph]

And just like that, the Dolphins are back in QB purgatory with the Jets right behind them. Amazing how that happens so quickly. Dolphins and Jets fans didn't have much time to ridicule Pats fans about our QB situation.

Jacoby looks like a safe bet now.

 

[JohnJH]

That could be considered tampering by Pierce. I'm not a big fan of giving anyone, especially someone you've never even met, medical advice.

I would hope he gets a second opinion from a doctor NOT PAID BY THE NFL.

He needs a Neuro Team that is apart from what the team wants, and has only what's in the best interest of his long-term health.

 

[Triumph]

Imagine if Dolphins trade for Mac Jones.
If Tua has lingering effects, or long-term concerns, they need more than Skylar.
Jones would come full circle and follow Tua again. That'd be wild.
And while I have no sellers remorse, Mac could actually do decent in that offense with McDaniel.
Imagine.

At least when Mac gets hit hard he grabs the other guys testicles.

 

[maust]

If I'm the Dolphins I'm on the phone right now with Andy Reid to acquire Bailey Zappy.

Zappe is a PS player, all the Dolphins need to do if they want him is claim him.