The official post-MNF HAWT TAEKS thread

[PatsDeb]

We were awful. Not much to take away from this game. Hopefully it was our annual bad game and not the beginning of a downward slide due to injuries finally catching up to us. Go Patriots.

 

[New England Pride]

Horrible post.

54 games 268 catches 3700 yards 25 TDs.

Part timer?

Most of that production came in a vertical offense. My post says that cooks is nothing more than a vertical receiver. I stand by what I said. Cooks routes aren't good and his ability to stem defensive backs outside and come back across there face is non existent.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Most of that production came in a vertical offense. My post says that cooks is nothing more than a vertical receiver. I stand by what I said. Cooks routes aren't good and his ability to stem defensive backs outside and come back across there face is non existent.

You can stand by your post all you want. The problem is you look terrible doing it.

You said nothing of the sort in you original post about how Cooks is just a vertical receiver.

Cooks' route running is fine.

He runs other routes very well.

If you want to argue how he is at a disadvantage in 1:1 balls vs taller Dbs then that is a reasonable position to take.

To say he is a part-time receiver is ridiculous

 

[luuked]

Here's a hot take. Cooks doesn't have the skill set to be a full time receiver. He's to small to cross over a dbs face on a slant. He's not strong enough or tough enough to go over the middle. Only a matter of time until Cooks is just in the receiver rotation as just the "deep guy." He is completely innefective in the red zone. Too small and his routes are not good.

You took the hot take nature to the extreme but I dont completely disagree with some of what you are saying. I have posted something similar into another thread:

I am getting the feeling that apart from the obvious routes (deep go, comebacks, deep slants ect.) Josh & co just cant make Cooks fit into the offense in an organic way. In games where he can be used as the (soon to be) expensive chess piece that he is Cooks can get his targets and yards. However in games where -- for whatever reason (e.g. Gronk is not available) -- we need him to step up and do more than that we just cant make it work.

And I dont mean it as an insult to Cooks at all. I think he is having a fine season and maybe it is entirely on me but I thought that at this point we would be able to use him in way more versatile ways than go-routes and comebacks. I honestly believed that he could become a weapon that can be used similarly as the Steelers do with AB if we can just get him into space but it just doesnt work.

And then Brady still somehow decides to focus on him. I have noticed 1-2 plays where Dola was open in the middle but Brady had already decided that he wanted to go to the sideline where Cooks was.

Jesus the entire game felt so weirdly off on offense..

I dont know how much of a hot take it is.. but I guess my downvotes will tell me soon..

Either way I am not sure what to think of Cooks so far.. so many positives but I just cant shake this feeling of disappointment..

 

[RobertWeathers]

@KontradictioN I think these type of threads are really good. Kind of makes the posters accountable for their actions and their posts in the GDT. Only banned one poster last night, but probably could have banned at least 5 or 6.

Kudos to @Elijah for predicting last night's outcome. Not too many people saw that coming. Hope you're right about the Steelers game as well.

I think that is a lot different than posters saying "game over" after we are trailing 6-0 in the 1st quarter. Talk about quitting on the team...wow.

More banning is required. There were some real jerks on last night. I logged off as I couldn't take it anymore.

 

[SVN]

Maybe you missed the OP where I said as clear as day that posters in this very forum can be included in this thread.

Oh no, i wasnt talking about that. Just a general comment thats al.

 

[luuked]

More banning is required. There were some real jerks on last night. I logged off as I couldn't take it anymore.

I have mostly left the live threads behind. After 2 years of giving out downvotes and trying to reply to ******** I just gave up. I miss the insightful posts but the other 80% are just getting too silly.

I suggested it to @Ross12 last season before the Texans game but I honestly wonder if a separate non-hot take live thread would be sustainable for the posters that want to talk about what they are seeing in near-realtime but dont want to be subject to the verbal vomit in the general live thread.

If not I would be curious if a Slack channel or something might be an option.

 

[Kontradiction]

Oh no, i wasnt talking about that. Just a general comment thats al.

Ah okay. My apologies then.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I have mostly left the live threads behind. After 2 years of giving out downvotes and trying to reply to ******** I just gave up. I miss the insightful posts but the other 80% are just getting too silly.

I suggested it to @Ross12 last season before the Texans game but I honestly wonder if a separate non-hot take live thread would be sustainable for the posters that want to talk about what they are seeing in near-realtime but dont want to be subject to the verbal vomit in the general live thread.

If not I would be curious if a Slack channel or something might be an option.

Slack channel is an excellent idea

Insightful/Level-headed Commentary one channel (invite only by the mods)

*****fest/Idiot/Panic-stricken/Entitled wack-jobs another channel (everyone)

 

[Nikolai]

I don't do the GDTs and haven't for many years.

I'm not sure I'd be allowed an invite to the other one because, as one would tell you from my chat history during games, I spend about 80% making mostly irreverent jokes.

 

[PatsDeb]

More banning is required. There were some real jerks on last night. I logged off as I couldn't take it anymore.

Self-banning is the way to go. I went on the game day thread once years ago and that was it for me (although I did pop in and leave a comment last night when McD had Brady in a shot-gun snap on 3rd &1 & Brady predictably (I am talking about last night only) threw to Cooks who was completely covered and the ball clanged to the ground - I was so pissed at that play call - pretyt much sums up the night). I could never last in the game-day thread for any length of time. Besides having to put up with all the nut jobs and negative Nancys, I don't know how it doesn't interfere completely with your ability to watch the game. Put down the computer & live in the moment. Except for last night, watching the game is usually so enjoyable on its own.

 

[ashley]

More banning is required. There were some real jerks on last night. I logged off as I couldn't take it anymore.

Yeah, I hear you RW, usually I am pretty patient, but some of the posts got to me as well. I was thinking it's been really good lately, but I guess that's what happens when you have an 8 game winning streak and the team hasn't been behind in a game in over a month...not much to complain about.

 

[Kontradiction]

Yeah, I hear you RW, usually I am pretty patient, but some of the posts got to me as well. I was thinking it's been really good lately, but I guess that's what happens when you have an 8 game winning streak and the team hasn't been behind in a game in over a month...not much to complain about.

My advice would be to ban DefenseRules from the thread before the game even starts.

 

[luuked]

Slack channel is an excellent idea

Insightful/Level-headed Commentary one channel (invite only by the mods)

*****fest/Idiot/Panic-stricken/Entitled wack-jobs another channel (everyone)

Maybe an official PatsFans.com Slack Server is something @Ian wants to think about as a chat alternative. I dont want to just setup a server myself and syphon users off the website and its live thread if we maybe could have something official.

 

[ashley]

Yeah Kontra, I think if I see any more "game over" posts in the 1st quarter, they will be gone.

My advice would be to ban DefenseRules from the thread before the game even starts.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yeah, I hear you RW, usually I am pretty patient, but some of the posts got to me as well. I was thinking it's been really good lately, but I guess that's what happens when you have an 8 game winning streak and the team hasn't been behind in a game in over a month...not much to complain about.

There is zero to complain about. I can go on and on about some of these goofballs need to gain some perspective but I'd be wasting my typing.

 

[Tony2046]

Pittsburgh is going to hurt this team next week, and if by some miracle we make it to the SB the NFC is gonna clean our plates.

Should have franchised Jimmy as insurance.

King Air Pilot shat his pants with this post.

 

[SVN]

 

[PatsBoy12]

@KontradictioN I think these type of threads are really good. Kind of makes the posters accountable for their actions and their posts in the GDT. Only banned one poster last night, but probably could have banned at least 5 or 6.

Kudos to @Elijah for predicting last night's outcome. Not too many people saw that coming. Hope you're right about the Steelers game as well.

I think that is a lot different than posters saying "game over" after we are trailing 6-0 in the 1st quarter. Talk about quitting on the team...wow.

How is this different than any other GDT?



I'm glad Ian hasn't made me a moderator because my trigger finger would be heavy. I'd be banning left and right . . . maybe ban myself at times. LOL

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

So, if we finish 13-3 will that make this a bad season because we lost to Miami in Miami?

Heck, even 12-4 is a great season.