The Official Patriots vs. Panthers Post Game Thread

[Kdo5]

Jeff Howe ?@jeffphowe 2m
Defensive pass interference would have put the Pats on the 1, where they've scored TDs on just 5 of 17 plays this season.

Jeff Howe ?@jeffphowe 49s
The Patriots' 29.4 TD percentage on plays from the 1 is the fourth worst in the NFL this season.

Yeah that's totally true if we are talking about the fricking beginning of the season. On the 1 yard line is a HUGE advantage.

 

[Deus Irae]

But that's what I'm confused about. What if the interceptor had "dropped" the int or tipped it? Does that make a difference? In the game I previously mentioned...it was clear interference...but negated because of the tip...even though the contact was already being made prior to the tip. So what's the difference? And why does this have to be so complicated haha.

I'm sure if it was only gronk and the lb...it would have been a pretty clear cut call...but the fact that the interceptor was there changes it? I dunno honestly.

The interceptor is completely irrelevant, because he wasn't the one called for the penalty, and the illegal contact began prior to the interceptor contacting the ball. This is not a tipped at the line situation.

 

[SVN]

Exact same thought I had.

Just drive the receiver away from the ball. No flag because it's considerable uncatchable.

ITs a flag if its manning. Game wouldnt have ended today like it did if it was broncos. Guranteed.

 

[SVN]

also disapponted on the oline in the last play.brady shouldve had to rush the throw like that with a standard 4 man rush.

 

[Dodie]

From another angle Gronk didn't actually gave up on the play his feet got tangled



imo this is blatant PI call that should've been called smh anyway, let's move on to the Broncos that game is much more important

 

[Cookenbauer]

The interceptor is completely irrelevant, because he wasn't the one called for the penalty, and the illegal contact began prior to the interceptor contacting the ball. This is not a tipped at the line situation.

And in the game I mentioned (wish I could remember)....it wasn't tipped at the line. It was tipped in the front of the end zone. While the wr was being interfered with at the end of the endzone...and similarly, I'm pretty sure the contact was prior to the ball getting there as well.

Just curious. They could have gotten that one wrong too...and I may not remember all the specifics either.

 

[Joker]

Look!!! NOT HOLDING ON O'HARA EITHER!!!

MIRACLE WIN!!!

The REAL MVP of Super Bowl 42 - YouTube

 

[Kdo5]

ITs a flag if its manning. Game wouldnt have ended today like it did if it was broncos. Guranteed.

Brady and Manning both benefit fairly equally for penalties. Maybe Peyton has moreso in match ups with the Pats. It's not the QB in this case. I doubt it would've been different switching spots.

 

[PatsFan24]

Terrible no call. Even if the ball is ruled as not being catchable then there is still holding on the play. There can be a debate about what the call is, but there was clearly a penalty on that play. Patriots got hosed on that call.

 

[Joker]

We don't know what we're talking about...that's not holding...that wasn't pass interference...the clock magically loses full minutes because...well it's magic!

sick of this Goodelian Dog and Pony Show

 

[PatsFan24]

ITs a flag if its manning. Game wouldnt have ended today like it did if it was broncos. Guranteed.

This is crybaby garbage. It's fine to be upset with what happened but to say the Broncos would have gotten the call is based on no foundation at all. Silly. Though I do think the Pats might have gotten the call if they were the home team.

 

[JMC00]

From this angle it is clear as day Gronk could have made a play on that ball

 

[Christian]

When people say, "the ball wasn't catchable"...I don't understand. Was it likely he would've caught that ball? VERY UNLIKELY. Is it possible he could've at least attempted to make a play on it, given he wasn't MAULED? Yes. Very much so. But throw both of those scenarios out the window and think about this:

On a regular NFL play, let's say Brady throws a screen pass to Vereen that goes for a 35 yard gain. However, on the other side of the field, one of our Patriots held a defender...or maybe he grabbed his facemask...whatever the scenario is...what happens on the play? It is called a penalty. It doesn't matter if it has nothing to do with the play, it is still called. Why wasn't this the case here? Because it "didn't affect the play" it isn't called? Then that should be the case on every single penalty shouldn't it? Unbelievable screw job. That is 2x this year now. I'm not one to complain about the refs, but that's 2 games that were CLEARLY decided by the refs.

 

[SVN]

From another angle Gronk didn't actually gave up on the play his feet got tangled



imo this is blatant PI call that should've been called smh anyway, let's move on to the Broncos that game is much more important

How did the refree deem this uncatchable?

 

[MassPats38]

Tough way to lose, but good and angry is a nice way to start preparing for the Donkeys. Panthers showed they are no slouch.

Overall, an entertaining game showing what the Pats offense is capable of doing with some major pieces returned. The defense wasn't bad, although it looked like Talib needed to take his medication in the first quarter.

The penalties aren't worth getting annoyed about. The Pats have lost 3 close games, and 2 finished with a controversial penalty called or not called to the detriment of the Pats. Let's look forward to the "let them play" in the playoffs.

 

[BradyBranch39]

Clete Blakeman, playing quarterback:


I really, really hope he lost his starting job due to an unlucky string of well-thrown incompletions that were deemed uncatchable by referees.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Look!!! NOT HOLDING ON O'HARA EITHER!!!

MIRACLE WIN!!!

The REAL MVP of Super Bowl 42 - YouTube

Thanks for raising my blood pressure even higher than it has been Joker, I had put that last play out of my mind, after tonight and watching that again, I might not sleep tonight, anyone have an ambien?

 

[cmasspatsfan]

How did the refree deem this uncatchable?

After Gronk got pushed 10 yards further while he was making his cut the douche in the white hat determined he couldn't catch it, no *****, how could he catch it being pushed and bear hugged.
Lot's of bad game turning calls this week, not just the Pats, who have had their fair share for the year, the NFL has to fix this atrocious refereeing.

 

[Joker]

sorry...I should not have rubbed salt in old wounds...

 

[Deus Irae]

And in the game I mentioned (wish I could remember)....it wasn't tipped at the line. It was tipped in the front of the end zone. While the wr was being interfered with at the end of the endzone...and similarly, I'm pretty sure the contact was prior to the ball getting there as well.

Just curious. They could have gotten that one wrong too...and I may not remember all the specifics either.

You keep referring to a play I can't look at to compare, so I can't really compare them. All I can tell you is that there's not a 'tipped' exception to PI available here.