Content Post The Joe Milton Experience All-22

[patsfaninpa]

If Bazooka Joe had done this in a pre-season game. We’d have all been very happy. Haters gonna hate.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

Milton showed nice touch on that throw to the front corner of the EZ that got broken up.

 

[PatsFan2]

Milton showed nice touch on that throw to the front corner of the EZ that got broken up.

I thought it was Dropped.

 

[gobesmug]

Milton throws for sub 100 yards and 3+ picks if Buffalo was trying (coaches and players) and fielded their full roster.

That's the dumbest take. No way to know what Milton would have done against the starters.

It's fine to remind it was against backups without a gameplan to shutdown Milton, but no one can say exactly how Milton would do in the starting position

 

[Grogan14]

If Joe Milton played in college like he did on Sunday, he would be the #1 overall pick in this years draft.

 

[TommyD4207]

If Joe Milton played in college like he did on Sunday, he would be the #1 overall pick in this years draft.

Anthony Richardson went top 5.
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me the difference between the two - other than Milton doesn't tap out of games when he's tired.

 

[mgteich]

If Andrews is healthy, I think he starts.

Robinson-Strange
Strange-Andrews

If Andrews is healthy, I choose Door Number Two.

I also sign Strange to a 3-4 extension to be our center for the future.

 

[PScottman]

I also sign Strange to a 3-4 extension to be our center for the future.

Maybe two year? He does have injury history to consider....

 

[mgteich]

Maybe two year? He does have injury history to consider....

The team and Strange understand the injury risk. The value of the contract would reflect that reality. The team would simply walk away from the 3rd or 4th year. Guarantees wouldn't be so high as to make the guarantee OK for a 2-year deal. Consider that we have a 2-year deal guaranteed with a 3rd year thrown in.

 

[KCSVEN]

Robinson-Strange
Strange-Andrews

If Andrews is healthy, I choose Door Number Two.

I also sign Strange to a 3-4 extension to be our center for the future.

I actually like that idea of keeping Andrews as backup in case Robinson fails.
I truly believe Strange will be better than Andrews as a starter. I also am not 100% sure Robinson will make the progress needed, though he has the potential and would be huge to have a young guy there.
Having Andrews able to step in and move Strange to guard if needed makes sense.

 

[Simpelton]

Let's see...

Extends the play with his legs
Rolls out into a useful position where he can see the field
Gives himself time and options, he can legitimately get a first down with his legs from the position he rolls out into, and it would have been a great play
But before he commits to a decision but uses his eyes
Sees Kayshon Boutte deep with nothing between him and the endzone
Makes a snap throw across his body, while moving, and puts it on target,
oh yeah, that's at least a 25 yard snapshot throw that he doesn't even have to really set his feet for and again, exactly where he wanted it to give Boutte the easiest touchdown he'll ever get in his life.


He just made a super difficult throw look easy despite a Bills defender hot on his heels, and was clearly using his head throughout the play, not just in the throw itself but in the seconds leading up to it. He gave himself every chance to make any number of successful plays just by using his feet and his head together, and then saw the one he wanted and executed one hell of a throw.

That and, he had the arm to hit Boutte in the first place, despite not being able to stop and set his feet. Not every QB even has a throw like that in their arsenal. Brissett doesn't. Maye probably doesn't, at least not on the run like that.

of the QBs we have, only Joe Milton makes that throw.

Of the QBs in the entire NFL, only a handful could reliably make that throw.

I wouldn't be too quick to fall back on draft slot prejudice here. If you'd told me that was Mahomes, or prime Russell Wilson in disguise, I might have been inclined to believe it.

It was only one play, but it was a damn elite play, and the way Milton set himself up, if the throw to Boutte wasn't there, there were other guys he might have been able to target, or he could have run for the first down if he could make one man miss.

And again, all this AFTER the pocket collapsed.

This kid might just be special.

 

[TommyD4207]

Let's see...

Extends the play with his legs
Rolls out into a useful position where he can see the field
Gives himself time and options, he can legitimately get a first down with his legs from the position he rolls out into, and it would have been a great play
But before he commits to a decision but uses his eyes
Sees Kayshon Boutte deep with nothing between him and the endzone
Makes a snap throw across his body, while moving, and puts it on target,
oh yeah, that's at least a 25 yard snapshot throw that he doesn't even have to really set his feet for and again, exactly where he wanted it to give Boutte the easiest touchdown he'll ever get in his life.

I said it at the time.
There are 3 people in the NFL who could make that throw. 2 of them were at the stadium that day.

 

[KCSVEN]

Anthony Richardson went top 5.
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me the difference between the two - other than Milton doesn't tap out of games when he's tired.

40 time: Richardson 4.43 vs Milton 4.53, Richardson is a better runner, his running translates in the NFL
Age: Richardson 21 when drafted, Milton 24
Add in Milton injury history.
Every team should look to draft a QB, every year, in the 5-7 rounds, and both these guys deserved to be in that area. Richardson was over-drafted.

 

[Simpelton]

I said it at the time.
There are 3 people in the NFL who could make that throw. 2 of them were at the stadium that day.

Russell Wilson could have made that throw before his legs got F'd up and he lost his scrambling ability. These days he can't extend the play like he used to and his accuracy has tanked.

Frankly that particular play, Milton reminded me of a young Chef Russ.

 

[KCSVEN]

It was only one play, but it was a damn elite play, and the way Milton set himself up, if the throw to Boutte wasn't there, there were other guys he might have been able to target, or he could have run for the first down if he could make one man miss.

And again, all this AFTER the pocket collapsed.

This kid might just be special.

Let's not forget Caleb Williams running around against backups in the preseason on that play he had for a TD. Yet he can't do it against starters.
Milton:
Arm strength, check
Mobility: check!
Processing: meh, a bit slow
Accuracy-not good but was good in that game against backups. Maybe mechanics have helped?

Processing and accuracy are way more important than arm strength and mobility. Processing and accuracy come way more into play against NFL starters than backups. Why Mac Jones can light it up in college but not in the pros.

Scouts get caught up in a play here and there. NFL QB is about consistency as almost all NFL QB's can make NFL throws in the right situation. Milton is gifted with an incredibly strong arm, but he needs more than that. Hope he can develop.

FYI, his first 2 reads on that play were open and he didn't throw it to them for some reason. He had 3 open receivers right away.

 

[Simpelton]

You can teach processing. You can teach mechanics to improve accuracy. you can't teach that shoulder Milton's got. Milton's arm is an order of magnitude better than Maye's based on what I've seen, and Maye's pretty good. He's got all the talent he needs, he just needs to get the head tool down.

See the thing is, these guys weren't just backups, they were the backups of one of the best teams in the NFL right now.

Milton played his preseason games against guys who'd be asking if you want fries with that sometime in the next few weeks. This wasn't that. This isn't the preseason, not even close.

These guys, a lot of them get playing time in an average Bills game, they're just playing bigger roles now because the starters are being rested. This was legit second stringers with a few of the less critical first string guys worked in. You could build a legit NFL roster out of that Bills team, and it might have won 6 games.

Needless to say, prior to this game, we had less than 6 wins.

Milton didn't beat backups. The Bills are arguably the second best team in the AFC and we're one of the very worst. Their backups are better on paper than our first stringers

That means, if you follow the logic all the way to its conclusion, that Milton carried our team to a win against a superior opponent.

 

[mgteich]

I actually like that idea of keeping Andrews as backup in case Robinson fails.
I truly believe Strange will be better than Andrews as a starter. I also am not 100% sure Robinson will make the progress needed, though he has the potential and would be huge to have a young guy there.
Having Andrews able to step in and move Strange to guard if needed makes sense.

I don't think that Andrews will start the season as a backup. He'd just retire.

 

[KCSVEN]

I don't think that Andrews will start the season as a backup. He'd just retire.

That's a ton of money to give up sitting on a couch.
Also, he would not know he wasn't the starter until camp was over. I'm speculating how it would be, IMO, once they broke camp.

 

[mgteich]

That's a ton of money to give up sitting on a couch.
Also, he would not know he wasn't the starter until camp was over. I'm speculating how it would be, IMO, once they broke camp.

I understand your position.

 

[mgteich]

That's a ton of money to give up sitting on a couch.
Also, he would not know he wasn't the starter until camp was over. I'm speculating how it would be, IMO, once they broke camp.

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I just don't think that Andrews would go through the pains of camp if he didn't have the understanding that he was the starter. Sometimes, just sometimes, a player worth over $40M will just decide to retire. Andrews has spent the year working with Jake. The team seems to have decided on Strange (presuming that he is extended).


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MESSSAGE
I hope you are fully recovered. We need you as a backup just in case Robinson isn't ready to start.
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ANSWER (BEFORE ANY CONTACT PRACTICES IN CAMP)
Thank you so much for the memories.
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BOTTOM LINE
The decision belongs to Andrews unless the team wants to give him his guaranteed money as termination.