The Giants came to town! (Unofficial Post Game Thread)

[TheRainMaker]

When will the Giants come to their senses and go back to their uniforms last worn in the 90’s?

Their current uniforms are horrendous.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

 

[TheRainMaker]

He doesn't believe the vast majority of the things he says. He just says whatever plays off his counterpart and will get his show and himself as much attention, clicks, ratings, money, and fame as possible. Therefore, nothing he says has any value whatsoever even when he's occasionally right. That goes for most of those types.

Him and Shannon are actually quite funny together. They intentionally troll each other.

 

[patchick]

What a strange ride the WR position has been on over the course of this camp. Right now there's a clear big four of Edelman, Gordon, Harry and Thomas--wow. But I dare you to call anybody else a lock.

The other huge question to me is, of all things, exactly which special teams positions all of the ST standouts play. We can't carry all of these guys:

Bolden
Brooks
Calhoun
Crossen
Ebner
Munson
Olszewski
Slater

 

[Deus Irae]

What a strange ride the WR position has been on over the course of this camp. Right now there's a clear big four of Edelman, Gordon, Harry and Thomas--wow. But I dare you to call anybody else a lock.

The other huge question to me is, of all things, exactly which special teams positions all of the ST standouts play. We can't carry all of these guys:

Bolden
Brooks
Calhoun
Crossen
Ebner
Munson
Olszewski
Slater

Cuts are going to be more interesting than usual, especially if there are cuts after the cuts (or BB cuts down below 53 at the start). The TE position seems especially barren, and the backup center spot seems as if it's either Thuney or TBD.

Nicely enough, given the offseason, the WR spot has seemingly become a position of strength, as long as both Thomas' Achilles and Gordon's sobriety remain intact.

 

[NashuaPats]

D Thomas' performance was by far the best part of the game. He looked healthy and like a quality starting WR. I wasn't sure what to expect from him. I feel much more confident in our WR corps heading into the season.

 

[Zuma]

Cuts are going to be more interesting than usual, especially if there are cuts after the cuts (or BB cuts down below 53 at the start).

Yep....I suspect several will be cut tomorrow...per usual.

 

[Wheelman]

Just catch the ****ing ball Joejuan! God damn it! That ending sucked bad. I feel really sad right now. I really wanted this win.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Who is getting cut?

If I had to lower anyone's stock tonight... I hesitate to assign too much value to any of this because who knows what's going on behind the scenes, but Meyers' position looks a lot less secure than it did 2 weeks ago, though I still think he makes it. I wouldn't at all surprised if he's one of the last cuts though.

I think Berrios is all but gone at this point, since I genuinely can't think of a single reason to keep him over Olszewski. Props to @patfanken on that one, he was on here quite a while ago telling anyone who would listen that Olszewski was the one to watch there. I think Ferentz is gone too too, although I always thought he was a longshot at best and it took Andrews' uncertain status and Froholdt going down to give him any real chance at all IMO. Skipper, also, is pretty much gone I think. When I paid attention to him tonight he looked pretty bad, and I think it's safe to say the trade for Cunningham reflects the Pats being uncomfortable with him.

 

[BradyFTW!]

That is a very Skip Bayless thing to tweet.

 

[Deus Irae]

I think the conditional pick for Saubert will remain with the Patriots.

 

[BradyFTW!]

He doesn't believe the vast majority of the things he says. He just says whatever plays off his counterpart and will get his show and himself as much attention, clicks, ratings, money, and fame as possible. Therefore, nothing he says has any value whatsoever even when he's occasionally right. That goes for most of those types.

That's the most fascinating thing about Skip and Shannon. They're both ****ing idiots, so it's almost intriguing how they can consistently disagree in ways that make them both seem dumb as hell.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Brady’s his favorite QB. He thinks he’s the best of all time. However, he thinks Tom made BB.

He goes overboard at times, but his opinion is certainly of more merit than "plug anyone into the system and..." In short, I'd rather see a TB12 fan boy than a TB12 hater.

Fact: Belichick has a career losing record with TB12, and even in in NE it is 18-19 without TB12 starting. I'm glad someone recognizes that, even if you ask BB he'll tell you, it's mostly about the players, and in this case, one player that is extremely vital to the dynasty. I don't think Skip thinks Belichick is some buffoon or not a great coach; this is more reactionary to the dumb, jealous anti-Brady notion that the coach makes a quarterback. This isn't as complicated as many people make it out to be. Brady has essentially the same obstacles as every other quarterback each game; his receivers aren't "more wide open" than others. He throws short passes at a lower than average rate than most QBs. His success is by and large because he's just a phenomenal quarterback, and he should be recognized as that rather than some product of a great scheme. He's had three offensive coordinators who failed with other teams, and there's little doubt he'd succeed with another one if Josh left.

Rodgers just played his entire career with McCarthy until last year; Brees has been with Payton for like 12 years; Roethlisberger with Tomlin since 2006; Manning ran the same offensive scheme his entire career. Bottom line is that generally great QBs create head coaching stability - not the other way around. Except with Brady, according to so many talking heads who ignore all the inconsistencies.

I do think Skip is reaching here re: Stidham. The fact is, though, none of us know what the Patriots and Brady are planning to do after this year.

 

[Deus Irae]

I think that the only saving grace for Dawson, if he were to somehow make this roster, would be that was a 2nd round pick last year.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Just catch the ****ing ball Joejuan! God damn it! That ending sucked bad. I feel really sad right now. I really wanted this win.

Really?

 

[Deus Irae]

I think Miami will be a team to watch, with regards to teams snagging Patriots cuts.

 

[Kdo5]

Just catch the ****ing ball Joejuan! God damn it! That ending sucked bad. I feel really sad right now. I really wanted this win.

You’re kidding, right?

 

[BradyFTW!]

Really?

Of all our losses to the Giants, this definitely doesn't crack the top two.

 

[Redman443]

May be wrong but I’m getting the vibe that Hoyer is done. BB keeps the two QB rule going. For all of those concerned that Tom’s backup is a rookie, it happened in 2014 and we didn’t have a problem. I wonder if you could get a 6th or 7th for him.

 

[TommyD4207]

D Thomas' performance was by far the best part of the game. He looked healthy and like a quality starting WR. I wasn't sure what to expect from him. I feel much more confident in our WR corps heading into the season.

Well, "healthy". His explosion's not there, so I think his sub-4.4 days are behind him.

That said, he doesn't really need to be that guy. He needs to be Brandon Lloyd.