Justified or not someone would have paid him.
Just like someone would have paid Stallworth. Stallworth has more upside than Moss and he is playing under a one year contract that pays him less than Moss and he is arguably better than Moss at this standpoint. Moss has a lot of black marks against him to get a big contract from effort concerns, talent diminishing concerns, and drug concerns.
I didn't say he wasn't a factor, I said he wasn't the only reason. Art Shell did plenty to get himself fired from a position he should not have been hired for in the first place. What he said on the radio was stupid but he truly sounded depressed.
You are making excuses for him. Moss has always thrown his coaches under a bus and he did it there. It was wrong and he should never had said it. He doesn't have the stones to suck it up. A lot of players on defense did.
So wasn't Red Mcombs, Mike Tice and all of the other malcontents on that team. He was hurt his last season in Minny not sure how he quit on them. I believe he quit on the Raiders, but saying he burned them isn't something I would agree to. Again one could argue they burned him by expecting Aaron Brookes to run the offense.
Funny, Stallworth and Horn didn't have a lot of problems with Aaron Brooks. Both those guys produced with Brooks throwing to him. I'm sorry, but Brady was burned by the Pats last year because they didn't give him any receiver other than Reche Caldwell for most of last year. I didn't see him quit. The Pats burned the defense in 2003 by releasing Milloy a week before the start of the season, but after one week of shock they pulled it together and performed like the best defense in Patriots history. You PLAY with the hands you are dealt.
Not every superstar is a leader and not every leader is a superstar. Superstar QB's are expected to be leaders but WR's? Most superstar WR's have the worst attitude on the team. Are you going to tell me Chad Johnson is a leader? He has a big mouth but I would hardly call him a leader.
How can a WR take the team on his back? He has absolutely no control over getting the ball. Brady has the ball in his hand every single snap and has total control over the offense and who receives the ball.
Moss and Carter carried the Vikings in 1999 when they had Jeff George as their starting QB. It is a lot harder, but it is possible. Besides, it's not my point. Brady had every right to complain or call it in and the media were baiting him for weeks to lay into the coaching staff. Brady just tried that much harder to get Caldwell and the rest up to speed and never said anything derogatory about the coaching staff. That is how you do it.
Dillon did that in Cincy. He was on horrible teams and he just shut up and played until the very end. That is why I have more respect for him than Moss, but I am no Dillon fan.
I'm not asking Moss to be Brady, but he can shut up and play the darn game like most of the players in the NFL. You don't think Torry Holt hated how Mike Martz destroyed what **** Vermeil built. He you have never seen him say a word or not give his all and the Rams have sucked for a few years.
Great for him, I think the Defense was the only part of the team that didn't pack it in. No that is what you think stars do. Its not just stars in football who pack it in when the season goes down the ****ter, Manny and Pedro both come to mind.
I could care less about baseball. We are talking football. Baseball isn't as much of a team sport as football is.
I guarantee you are well within the minority on this opinion. This is stretching it just a tiny bit. Keyshawn put up better numbers the past three years because he was in functional offenses. Are you honestly going to compare Brookes to Bledsoe? When Bledsoe has protection he is/was one of the most accurate passers in the league, his problems are a lack of mobility and over confidence in his arm. Brookes outright sucks at everything QB and Collins was having enough struggles to retire!
.............................................................Rec YPC TD
2006 Carolina 24th in total offense - Johnson 70 11.6 4
Oakland 32nd in total offense - Moss 42 13.2 3 in 13 games
2005 Dallas 13th in total offense - Johnson 71 11.8 6
Oakland 21st in total offense - Moss 60 16.8 8
2004 Minny 4th in total offense - Moss 49 15.7 13 in 13 games
Dallas 14th in total offense - Johnson 70 14.0 6
And talk about quiting on your team didn't Keyshawn sit out in Tampa until he got traded? I can't recall Moss doing that. In your opinion Johnson is better simply because he had more catches? Considering he played in better offenses with better QB's, wasn't double teamed, averaged less YPC and had less TD's and played in six more games?
Consider the QB card pulled.
We get it you don't like Moss, but you are pushing the envelope on this. Especially with the Keyshawn statement. I've never been a fan of Moss, but I think the media has overblown the issues with him. And as the other poster pointed out, he is in a Pats uniform so I will give him the benefit of the doubt. If he is a malcontent or screws up I will be the first one to tell you that you were right. But that isn't going to happen, because he won't be expected to be a leader on this team. Which is a good thing and he won't be the media's only focus in the Pats locker room.[/QUOTE]