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I'm operating under the assumption that Baltimore will find a way to retain Ronnie stanley, in which case we have to look at the second tier of offensive tackles. I'm not stoked about Cam Robinson. Moore projects to be much more affordable than Robinson and, according to his PFF ratings, is not a significant downgrade, especially in the area of penalties. I can't say I have voluntarily watched a Steelers game that doesn't involve the Patriots in probably 8 years, can anybody say more about whether Moore is a viable option at left tackle? Can he play right tackle?
 
I'm operating under the assumption that Baltimore will find a way to retain Ronnie stanley, in which case we have to look at the second tier of offensive tackles. I'm not stoked about Cam Robinson. Moore projects to be much more affordable than Robinson and, according to his PFF ratings, is not a significant downgrade, especially in the area of penalties. I can't say I have voluntarily watched a Steelers game that doesn't involve the Patriots in probably 8 years, can anybody say more about whether Moore is a viable option at left tackle? Can he play right tackle?
Is Dan not Dam!!
 
I'm operating under the assumption that Baltimore will find a way to retain Ronnie stanley, in which case we have to look at the second tier of offensive tackles. I'm not stoked about Cam Robinson. Moore projects to be much more affordable than Robinson and, according to his PFF ratings, is not a significant downgrade, especially in the area of penalties. I can't say I have voluntarily watched a Steelers game that doesn't involve the Patriots in probably 8 years, can anybody say more about whether Moore is a viable option at left tackle? Can he play right tackle?
It's said Dan Moore gives up a lot of sacks and kinda struggles in Pittsburgh: if they let him walk that's telling. He's my least favorite of the Tackles available...my preference in this order is R Stanley - C Robinson or Jedrick Willis Jr.
 
I'm still hopeful for Stanley but for awhile now I've been hoping we can find one via trade. They just aren't there in free agency or this draft.

I don't know who is trading 1 either but we have to make it happen.
 
Steelers fans hate him, but probably a bit excessively at this point. He held off Broderick Jones, who was supposed to take his job a couple years ago. That’s a brutal division to play left tackle in, going against Myles Garrett and Trey Hendrickson, so the stats aren’t pretty.

He’s a left tackle who is likely going to get paid to be a clear starter. Fun fact…Chuks Okorafor was working at LT in 2021, but when it became clear that RT Zach Banner was not going to make it back from his ACL for week 1, that made rookie Dan Moore the next guy up and they decided to just keep Moore and Okorafor each at the position they had played the prior season.
 
Oh great another Stillers retread. OTOH so was Vrabel, that worked out great. Only two questions apply:

1. Is he better than Lowe or anyone else currently on the roster? I think he is, he couldn’t possibly be worse.

2. Is he better than anyone else they could acquire considering cost? I’d prefer Stanley like everyone else and don’t care what they have to pay him considering the vast amount they currently have to spend. I think Robinson has been better than Moore in the past so would lean towards him though he’ll likely get more money. I’d prefer Moore to Wills because Moore has done better though Wills likely is more talented physically. I can’t think of anyone else that I see coming into free agency that I think is better as a potential LT1 this season than Moore

So list me as a yes on this guy if they can’t land Stanley or Robinson or make the judgment that Moore is the better choice. I am willing to have trust in Marrone until I see evidence to not have trust. I felt the same way about Peters and Klemm. Hopefully Marrone is not the **** show those guys were.
 
Steelers fans hate him, but probably a bit excessively at this point. He held off Broderick Jones, who was supposed to take his job a couple years ago. That’s a brutal division to play left tackle in, going against Myles Garrett and Trey Hendrickson, so the stats aren’t pretty.

He’s a left tackle who is likely going to get paid to be a clear starter. Fun fact…Chuks Okorafor was working at LT in 2021, but when it became clear that RT Zach Banner was not going to make it back from his ACL for week 1, that made rookie Dan Moore the next guy up and they decided to just keep Moore and Okorafor each at the position they had played the prior season.
And Practicing against T.J. Watt.
 
If we don't get Stanley, which I don't anticipate, then just draft one. I don't want a Steelers reject and I'm not optimistic Robinson or Wills is an upgrade over Lowe.
 
I actually think Dan Moore is better than he gets credit for. He's not as good as Stanley, but he would be an upgrade over Vederian Lowe, and he's reliable. IMO, he's better than Cam Robinson even though the common consensus is that Robinson is better. If Stanley doesn't work out, I'd be pivoting to Moore immediately. I believe he also has some positional versatility, so if you end up drafting a LT, you can move Moore to RT.
 
If we don't get Stanley, which I don't anticipate, then just draft one. I don't want a Steelers reject and I'm not optimistic Robinson or Wills is an upgrade over Lowe.
Still some competition would be better than nothing
 
His grades on PFF aren’t awful, better than what we had last year.

But a brief scan of Reddit shows that Steelers fans absolutely hate the guy.
 
I actually think Dan Moore is better than he gets credit for. He's not as good as Stanley, but he would be an upgrade over Vederian Lowe, and he's reliable. IMO, he's better than Cam Robinson even though the common consensus is that Robinson is better. If Stanley doesn't work out, I'd be pivoting to Moore immediately. I believe he also has some positional versatility, so if you end up drafting a LT, you can move Moore to RT.
I think Robinson is better, but Moore has more upside.
 
I actually think Dan Moore is better than he gets credit for. He's not as good as Stanley, but he would be an upgrade over Vederian Lowe, and he's reliable. IMO, he's better than Cam Robinson even though the common consensus is that Robinson is better. If Stanley doesn't work out, I'd be pivoting to Moore immediately. I believe he also has some positional versatility, so if you end up drafting a LT, you can move Moore to RT.
please stop with the position versatility. All the OL drafted the last few years have been touted with position versatility. Can we just get someone who can play a position
 
please stop with the position versatility. All the OL drafted the last few years have been touted with position versatility. Can we just get someone who can play a position
Well it's all about context.

If you sign or draft a guy who has been playing RT but you say "hey, he's versatile, he can also play LT!" - that's kind of an iffy statement, because LT is the blindside and the pass rush is a lot tougher over there.

If you sign or draft a guy who has been playing LT but you say "hey, he's versatile, he can also play RT!" - that's much more believable because it's typically a downgrade in blocking assignment.

In this case, Dan Moore has been playing LT so it's not the same as what we saw last year with both Okorafor and Wallace, who were RTs trying to swap over. And besides, we'd be signing Moore to be the starting LT - he'd only move over if they somehow landed someone better later.
 
Well it's all about context.

If you sign or draft a guy who has been playing RT but you say "hey, he's versatile, he can also play LT!" - that's kind of an iffy statement, because LT is the blindside and the pass rush is a lot tougher over there.

If you sign or draft a guy who has been playing LT but you say "hey, he's versatile, he can also play RT!" - that's much more believable because it's typically a downgrade in blocking assignment.

In this case, Dan Moore has been playing LT so it's not the same as what we saw last year with both Okorafor and Wallace, who were RTs trying to swap over. And besides, we'd be signing Moore to be the starting LT - he'd only move over if they somehow landed someone better later.
Ok so you guys talked me into Dam Moore.
 
The point of getting Stanley, or even Robinson, is that they would protect Maye's blind side for 2 to 3 seasons while you hopefully have drafted a young and capable LT and have them ready to go by the time Stanley or Robinson have moved on or retired. Moore is obviously younger. Is he better than what we trotted out for LT last season? Yes. Is he a whole huge level up from that? No. But, if he's all that they can get and can eventually be flipped to the RT spot and perhaps be better at RT when we do get a solid LT, then that's what might have to happen. It's not optimal for sure, and I hope we're able to do better than Moore. Even then, I would not pay him anywhere near close to Stanley money. We'll see.
 
The point of getting Stanley, or even Robinson, is that they would protect Maye's blind side for 2 to 3 seasons while you hopefully have drafted a young and capable LT and have them ready to go by the time Stanley or Robinson have moved on or retired. Moore is obviously younger. Is he better than what we trotted out for LT last season? Yes. Is he a whole huge level up from that? No. But, if he's all that they can get and can eventually be flipped to the RT spot and perhaps be better at RT when we do get a solid LT, then that's what might have to happen. It's not optimal for sure, and I hope we're able to do better than Moore. Even then, I would not pay him anywhere near close to Stanley money. We'll see.

Yes, those two guys are about fixing the position short term; and making the rest of FA and the draft for flexible. We aren't looking for "upside" we just want to solidify the position in the short term. If you are getting Moore you are bringing him in as competition, he isn't a long term answer and he doesn't accomplish the two key needs.
 
It's said Dan Moore gives up a lot of sacks and kinda struggles in Pittsburgh: if they let him walk that's telling. He's my least favorite of the Tackles available...my preference in this order is R Stanley - C Robinson or Jedrick Willis Jr.
That's my boy!!!!!

 
Right now and in past years, our LT spot has been a crippling weakness that is so glaring it takes away from the development of the rest of the team. It makes it hard to develop other OL because you have to give such help to the most important spot. It speeds up the QB's clock. It means you have to be more plain and vanilla in play calling so you can't scheme guys open as easily.

I would say Dan Moore is on a level that LT is still a need and a position people will ***** about, but it'd be at a respectable enough level. It doesn't change the big picture need at LT, but it stops the bleeding to where the hole isn't so glaring that it takes away from developing others. That's an important improvement to make, even if not perfect. He's also young so you'd expect that stability to continue for the longest term.

Stanley or Cam Robinson would be actually solution caliber LTs, with Stanley being the better version. He's an actual pro bowl caliber LT, but he had a huge availability issue in his 20s and if that repeats in his 30s then you end up having to start the same backup caliber LTs we have the past few years anyway. Cam Robinson has had some availability and injury issues too, but less glaring.
 
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