So how do you grade this year’s draft?

[Uptown]

Strange

?

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

If I had suggested a few months ago that the Pats should trade Mason for a late 5th round pick, and reach for a guard with a third round grade from a FCS school at pick 29, to replace him, you all would have come at me with pitchforks, now some of you are thinking this was a great move?

The best you can hope for is this kid in a few years is as good as Mason is, the cap savings are minimal once you consider Mason's dead money hit, and oh yeah, they wasted a first round pick and drafted exactly ZERO guys that will help in an effort to make the Bills actual have to punt.

This draft was a complete and total failure!!!

Even if every pick turns out not to suck, the Pats are a worse team today, than the one that could not make the Bills punt last year.

 

[Pape]

?

You said Strong... His name is Cole Strange

 

[PatsFan2]

I just realized something. The KC Chiefs are the anti-Patriots in this year's draft:

They either traded into our pick or selected right behind us:

1. For ex.: 1 (21) Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington. We could have had McDuffie, we traded down.

2. At 29, we went Strange, but we could have had (30) George Karlaftis, Edge, Purdue

3. At 50, we went Thornton instead of (54) Skyy Moore, WR, Western Michigan

4. & finally, we picked up a 4th rounder who turned into Bailey Zappe & a 2023 3rd rounder instead of taking (103) Leo Chenal, LB, Wisconsin

So it will be interesting to track McDuffie, Karlaftis, Skyy Moore and Chenal knowing that the Patriots could have landed any of the 4, and we could have landed 3 of them in one class.

We'll be comparing them: Cole Strange + Jack Jones (the Trent McDuffie equivalent), Cole Strange (Karlaftis), Tyquan Thornton (Skyy Moore), and Bailey Zappe + next year's 3rd (Chenal).

Dane Brugler of the Athletic thinks KC drafted the 2nd best class. The Patriots are 30th. Wild.

Right now on paper I have to lean to the Chiefs I thought they had a Great Draft I see some Day 1 Starters right there.

 

[Uptown]

You said Strong... His name is Cole Strange

I was referring to our rookie RB Pierre Strong…

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I am not so sure I am on board with this logic. Travis Jones is a niche player and many teams already have a guy like him. Patriots don't and apparently believe they don't need one, despite suck8ng against the run last year

We will see. Perkins did not get on the field last year which is not a good sign. I fell for the "good value" with Winovich and Perkins, glad we did not draft 3rd round "good value" again this year. Marcus Jones might not be an All-Pro but if he can get on the field and defend the slot, plus return punts and kickoffs, we are much better off than a traditional value pick.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I was referring to our rookie RB Pierre Strong…

Imagine what will happen when he realizes we have four Joneses.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I was referring to our rookie RB Pierre Strong…

Strange

 

[Uptown]

Strange

..?.. What’s with you guys?..

 

[crawhammer]

Dave from Boston, please tell me who that matters laughed out loud about the Strange pick?

Sean McVay and Les Snead laughed at the pick because they graded Strange as a late 3rd rounder and the Patriots reached for him at #29. If you want to believe they were laughing at themselves because they supposedly undervalued Strange then you're as dopey as you seem.

Belichick used a 1st round pick on a 2nd round player at best. The overwhelming consensus is the player may be good but he was taken way too early and certainly was not 1st round caliber.

Here's how some graded the Strange pick:

B- Vinnie Lyer, Sporting News
B- FOX Sports
C Pete Prisco, CBS Sports
C SB Nation
C- Yahoo Sports
D+ Kevin Hanson, SI
D Pro Football Focus
D Andrew Callahan, Boston Herald
D Phil Perry, NBC Sports
D Sheil Kapadia, The Athletic
D Chad Reuter, NFL.com
D USA Today
F Brent Sobleski, Bleacher Report

The cumulative grade there is a D+ as in poor.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Sean McVay and Les Snead laughed at the pick because they graded Strange as a late 3rd rounder and the Patriots reached for him at #29. If you want to believe they were laughing at themselves because they supposedly undervalued Strange then you're as dopey as you seem.

Belichick used a 1st round pick on a 2nd round player at best. The overwhelming consensus is the player may be good but he was taken way too early and certainly was not 1st round caliber.

Here's how some graded the Strange pick:

B- Vinnie Lyer, Sporting News
B- FOX Sports
C Pete Prisco, CBS Sports
C SB Nation
C- Yahoo Sports
D+ Kevin Hanson, SI
D Pro Football Focus
D Andrew Callahan, Boston Herald
D Phil Perry, NBC Sports
D Sheil Kapadia, The Athletic
D Chad Reuter, NFL.com
D USA Today
F Brent Sobleski, Bleacher Report

The cumulative grade there is a D+ as in poor.

No they didn't. Snead literally said "You know what's awesome about Cole Strange? He has one of the quickest first steps I've ever seen for an offensive lineman." SO try again

Those people you cited don't matter.

Dave from Boston, you failed again.

 

[crawhammer]

No, they don't give a a **** what the 'league consensus' is because 75-90 percent of the people working in the NFL are straight out idiots. 'League consensus doesn't know crap about what the Pats want or need in a player or how they plan to use the players they do draft.

Tom E. Curran of NBC Sports broke down games played and snap percentages for each of the Patriots draft picks since 2019. Only 2 of the 28 players drafted have played more than 75% of the snaps (Mac Jones and Michael Onwenu). Just 12 of the 28 have participated in more than 50% of the games played since they were drafted and only 5 of them have been on the field for more than 50% of the snaps in the games they played. 8 of the 28 players never appeared in a game. Makes you wonder if the Patriots know what they want?

Here's the raw data from Curran's report:

Mac Jones (Rd 1, 2021): 100% games, 96% snaps
Christian Barmore (2, 2021): 100% games, 55% snaps
Jake Bailey (5, 2019): 100% games
Michael Onwenu (6, 2020): 96% games, 77% snaps
Chase Winovich (3, 2019): 91% games, 34% snaps
Kyle Dugger (2, 2020): 87% games, 63% snaps
Justin Herron (6, 2020): 85% games, 43% snaps
Joejuan Williams (2, 2019): 73% games, 23% snaps
Rhamondre Stevenson (4, 2021): 70% games, 34% snaps
N'Keal Harry (1, 2019): 67% games, 53% snaps
Josh Uche (2, 2020): 63% games, 31% snaps
Damien Harris (3, 2019): 55% games, 27% snaps
Anfernee Jennings (3, 2020): 42% games, 33% snaps
Byron Cowart (5, 2019): 38% games, 31% snaps
Devin Asiasi (3, 2020): 30% games, 28% snaps
Dalton Keene (3, 2020): 18% games, 40% snaps
Hjalte Froholdt (4, 2019): 16% games, 11% snaps
Yodny Cajuste (3, 2019): 14% games, 17% snaps
Jarrett Stidham (4, 2019): 14% games, 11% snaps
Cassh Maluia (6, 2020): 6% games, 2% snaps
Ronnie Perkins (3, 2021): 0%
Cam McGrone (5, 2021): 0%
Joshuah Bledsoe (6, 2021): 0%
Will Sherman (6, 2021): 0%
Tre Nixon (7, 2021): 0%
Justin Rohrwasser (5, 2020): 0%
Dustin Woodard (7, 2020): 0%
Ken Webster (7, 2019): 0%

 

[crawhammer]

No they didn't. Snead literally said "You know what's awesome about Cole Strange? He has one of the quickest first steps I've ever seen for an offensive lineman." SO try again

Donkey, they like the player... they were prepared to draft him... at 104.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Donkey, they like the player... they were prepared to draft him... at 104.

And that’s why they were laughing…because they liked him and had no chance to get him at 104. Sorry to keep schooling you, Dave from Boston.

 

[Uptown]

I don’t necessarily agree with the criticism that our draft is receiving, but at least it’s somewhat understandable. However, the flak that GB is receiving (especially from their fans) is Wild..

-Walker (GA)
-Wyatt (GA)
-Watson (NDSU)
-Rhyan (UCLA)
-Doubs (NEV)
-Tom (WF)
-Enagbare (SC)

They even drafted some nice athletes in the later rounds as well.

Introducing the Green Bay Packers 2022 draft class

The Green Bay Packers made 11 picks during the 2022 NFL draft. The class started with Georgia’s Quay Walker in the first round and finished with Nebraska's Samori Toure in the seventh round. Introducing the full Green Bay Packers’ draft class for 2022:

packerswire.usatoday.com

 

[SHOWTIME15]

 

[amfootball]

I would give it a C-. Really head scratching.

 

[amfootball]

They did nothing to beef up a run defense that was bad last season. They did nothing to put speed on the field to actually you know try to force Buffalo into a punt. Yeah I understand they can put more safeties more athletes on the field but like I said, nothing was done to add beef up front to protect those players. So to answer the question, it was a horrible draft.

Spot on. Was QB a need in the 4th round? Another RB? A guard with the first pick? I don't understand it all.

 

[crawhammer]

And that’s why they were laughing…because they liked him and had no chance to get him at 104.

They scouted the player because they had no chance to get him at 104?? You obviously don't realize how dumb that sounds. You think because the Patriots reached for the player in the 1st round that the Rams concluded their player evaluation was wildly wrong? The Rams had Strange valued at 104... their evaluation of the player doesn't change because some other team obviously overvalued the player. Seriously, get a clue.

 

[PatsFan2]

I don’t necessarily agree with the criticism that our draft is receiving, but at least it’s somewhat understandable. However, the flak that GB is receiving (especially from their fans) is Wild..

-Walker (GA)
-Wyatt (GA)
-Watson (NDSU)
-Rhyan (UCLA)
-Doubs (NEV)
-Tom (WF)
-Enagbare (SC)

They even drafted some nice athletes in the later rounds as well.

Introducing the Green Bay Packers 2022 draft class

The Green Bay Packers made 11 picks during the 2022 NFL draft. The class started with Georgia’s Quay Walker in the first round and finished with Nebraska's Samori Toure in the seventh round. Introducing the full Green Bay Packers’ draft class for 2022:

packerswire.usatoday.com

Must be DeVante Adams detractors we would have been very happy with either of the First Two. C. Watson is basically in the same boat as T. Thornton 9 Route WR's at the moment boom or bust hoping boom for both. Romeo Doubs is a Steal: the Pats saw him Three times and didn't pull the trigger oh well.