Smoking that pack tonight

[BUSTAMOVE]

24-0 at halftime
My guess is you barely made it through a half pack

 

[dliverey44]

Yeah, Brady might have lost three Super Bowls, but in two of them, he scored the go ahead touchdown with a few minutes left in the 4th quarter, and in the other one, he set the Super Bowl record for yards, while also tossing 5 TDs

They are not the same

You're right they aren't the same, Mahomes has been to the AFC championship game every year as a starter. LOL

 

[signbabybrady]

You're right they aren't the same, Mahomes has been to the AFC championship game every year as a starter. LOL

Who has the longer streak of making AFC championships?

 

[TheRainMaker]

This will be the beginning of the end for the Chiefs unless they get some serious upgrades on offense. The Pats teams went on a 10 year drought, mostly because they didn't address their weaknesses and it kept getting exploited by some team in the playoffs.

The Chargers need to look at this and get offensive help for Herbert. Denver could also come out of nowhere next season if they build off their current team.

The Bills window I think are closing as well. That roster is dogshit and eventually teams like the Bengals will bounce back as well and the Ravens had no business losing to the Bills in the divisional round.

 

[Nikolai]

There’s a Mandela effect thing going with the second giants loss. Pats scored with 11:25 left in the third and went punt/pick/punt/downs the rest of the way

I think we blend the two Super Bowls together because Eli pulled another one out of his ass, and it would have been nice if the defense could’ve given Brady one of those, but unfortunately he didn’t score late in that game

Right right, good call.

That's why everyone wanted to blame Welker.

At least three more SB wins made us forget that one...or, at least, I forgot it I guess

 

[Nikolai]

You're right they aren't the same, Mahomes has been to the AFC championship game every year as a starter. LOL

You oughta back on out and go back to 36 hours ago when your boy was still riding the wave of make believe.

 

[aluminum seats]

Right right, good call.

That's why everyone wanted to blame Welker.

At least three more SB wins made us forget that one...or, at least, I forgot it I guess

No no, you’re not alone, everybody thinks that. I had the exact same thing in my mind until a couple years ago when I was just looking at the play-by-play of that game and realized damn, I remembered it wrong

 

[Bill Lee]

Jayden Daniels may have something to say about that.

He and Drake might emulate the Brady-Peyton rivalry. As long as the Patriot side follows the TB12 script I’m okay with that.

Cool thing about Brady-Manning was they were both in the same conference, at least until the Dolts took the opportunity to leave the AFC East.

The Dolts were in the AFC East because they were originally the Baltimore Colts.

Leaving Baltimore in the middle of the night was one scummy thing they did, and leaving the AFC East since they were tired of Bill and Brady kicking their ass every season was another.

**** that bunch of corn-fed hicks and their ****ing stadium filled with participation trophies.

 

[signbabybrady]

Cool thing about Brady-Manning was they were both in the same conference, at least until the Dolts took the opportunity to leave the AFC East.

The Dolts were in the AFC East because they were originally the Baltimore Colts.

Leaving Baltimore in the middle of the night was one scummy thing they did, and leaving the AFC East since they were tired of Bill and Brady kicking their ass every season was another.

**** that bunch of corn-fed hicks and their ****ing stadium filled with participation trophies.

Fun fact: That Colts banner is now at the Barstool HQ.

 

[Ross12]

Comparing the start of the Chiefs' "dynasty" to now vs. the same # of years of the end of the Patriots' dynasty:

Chiefs:
'18: AFC Championship Game loss (to Patriots)
'19: Super Bowl victory
'20: Super Bowl loss (not close)
'21: AFC Championship Game loss
'22: Super Bowl victory
'23: Super Bowl victory
'24: Super Bowl loss (not close)

Patriots:
'12: AFC Championship Game loss
'13: AFC Championship Game loss
'14: Super Bowl victory
'15: AFC Championship Game loss
'16: Super Bowl victory
'17: Super Bowl loss
'18: Super Bowl victory

The Chiefs and Patriots both won 3 titles across 5 seasons. The Chiefs had 1 more Super Bowl loss than the Patriots; however, both of the Chiefs' losses were not close, whereas the Patriots' loss was by a 1-score margin. The Patriots have 3 AFCCG losses vs. the Chiefs' 2, so it is a matter of being 1 game better in 1 season.

However, if you expand backwards by 1 year for each team - the '11 season for the Patriots was another Super Bowl berth (though a loss, but a close one), whereas the '17 season for the Chiefs was a Wild Card round loss (this was pre-Mahomes).

I'd say that all things considered, the Chiefs' run should be considered roughly equal to the back half of the Patriots' run. I would personally put the Patriots higher due to 28-3, having no blowout losses, and beating the Chiefs directly in 2018 in the AFCCG, but admittedly I am biased.

If you take the entirety of the Patriots' dynasty in totality from 2001 to 2018 into consideration, obviously the Patriots are better. There's no comparison. Of course, it remains to be seen how the remaining Chiefs seasons go, because potentially their run is not over. It certainly feels that way, though.

 

[aluminum seats]

Comparing the start of the Chiefs' "dynasty" to now vs. the same # of years of the end of the Patriots' dynasty:

Chiefs:
'18: AFC Championship Game loss (to Patriots)
'19: Super Bowl victory
'20: Super Bowl loss (not close)
'21: AFC Championship Game loss
'22: Super Bowl victory
'23: Super Bowl victory
'24: Super Bowl loss (not close)

Patriots:
'12: AFC Championship Game loss
'13: AFC Championship Game loss
'14: Super Bowl victory
'15: AFC Championship Game loss
'16: Super Bowl victory
'17: Super Bowl loss
'18: Super Bowl victory

The Chiefs and Patriots both won 3 titles across 5 seasons. The Chiefs had 1 more Super Bowl loss than the Patriots; however, both of the Chiefs' losses were not close, whereas the Patriots' loss was by a 1-score margin. The Patriots have 3 AFCCG losses vs. the Chiefs' 2, so it is a matter of being 1 game better in 1 season.

However, if you expand backwards by 1 year for each team - the '11 season for the Patriots was another Super Bowl berth (though a loss, but a close one), whereas the '17 season for the Chiefs was a Wild Card round loss (this was pre-Mahomes).

I'd say that all things considered, the Chiefs' run should be considered roughly equal to the back half of the Patriots' run. I would personally put the Patriots higher due to 28-3, having no blowout losses, and beating the Chiefs directly in 2018 in the AFCCG, but admittedly I am biased.

If you take the entirety of the Patriots' dynasty in totality from 2001 to 2018 into consideration, obviously the Patriots are better. There's no comparison. Of course, it remains to be seen how the remaining Chiefs seasons go, because potentially their run is not over. It certainly feels that way, though.

Good comparison, but honestly I don’t see how any bias you might have plays into it. Looking at those numbers what would be the argument that the Chiefs are better during those years?

 

[signbabybrady]

Comparing the start of the Chiefs' "dynasty" to now vs. the same # of years of the end of the Patriots' dynasty:

Chiefs:
'18: AFC Championship Game loss (to Patriots)
'19: Super Bowl victory
'20: Super Bowl loss (not close)
'21: AFC Championship Game loss
'22: Super Bowl victory
'23: Super Bowl victory
'24: Super Bowl loss (not close)

Patriots:
'12: AFC Championship Game loss
'13: AFC Championship Game loss
'14: Super Bowl victory
'15: AFC Championship Game loss
'16: Super Bowl victory
'17: Super Bowl loss
'18: Super Bowl victory

The Chiefs and Patriots both won 3 titles across 5 seasons. The Chiefs had 1 more Super Bowl loss than the Patriots; however, both of the Chiefs' losses were not close, whereas the Patriots' loss was by a 1-score margin. The Patriots have 3 AFCCG losses vs. the Chiefs' 2, so it is a matter of being 1 game better in 1 season.

However, if you expand backwards by 1 year for each team - the '11 season for the Patriots was another Super Bowl berth (though a loss, but a close one), whereas the '17 season for the Chiefs was a Wild Card round loss (this was pre-Mahomes).

I'd say that all things considered, the Chiefs' run should be considered roughly equal to the back half of the Patriots' run. I would personally put the Patriots higher due to 28-3, having no blowout losses, and beating the Chiefs directly in 2018 in the AFCCG, but admittedly I am biased.

If you take the entirety of the Patriots' dynasty in totality from 2001 to 2018 into consideration, obviously the Patriots are better. There's no comparison. Of course, it remains to be seen how the remaining Chiefs seasons go, because potentially their run is not over. It certainly feels that way, though.

What are the odds that Mahomes soon to be 30 can match the rest of what Brady did?

3 out of 4
18-1
The 2011 SB loss
And the 2020 SB win

Even if he can replicate all that there is no way for him to beat Brady in a SB or conference championship

 

[Ross12]

Good comparison, but honestly I don’t see how any bias you might have plays into it. Looking at those numbers what would be the argument that the Chiefs are better during those years?

What I was trying to say was that these two subsets of years should probably be considered equal, and that my bias makes me feel that the Patriots had a better run during that time. I can't envision any argument that would put the Chiefs ahead.

 

[Ross12]

What are the odds that Mahomes soon to be 30 can match the rest of what Brady did?

3 out of 4
18-1
The 2011 SB loss
And the 2020 SB win

Even if he can replicate all that there is no way for him to beat Brady in a SB or conference championship

I was just comparing team to team so I didn't include Brady's 2020 win with Tampa. The 2011 Super Bowl loss is somewhat "baked in" for the Chiefs already, if they hypothetically make the AFCCG next year but lose, that would still put them roughly on-par with the final 8 years of the Pats, as both would still have the same number of SB appearances, SB wins and AFCCG appearances. But anything short of an AFCCG loss would drop the Chief's 8 year period lower than that same period for the Pats'.

Extending out to the rest of the run for NE from the early days - yeah, the Chiefs would still need:
- 3 more Super Bowl wins
- 1 more Super Bowl loss
- 1 more AFCCG loss
- 1 perfect regular season

It's fine if there's a gap of a few years, because the Pats had such a gap, but I have a hard time seeing Mahomes reinventing his game and making that happen in his mid-to-late 30s when he can't run around anymore. The league will also have new "darlings" by that time.

If you compare him directly to Brady then you need to add yet another Super Bowl win to that list, as well as a direct defeat of Brady in a Super Bowl, which is not possible. So he'd need to actually surpass Brady in title wins to have an argument, which would mean 5 additional Super Bowl wins (8 total).

 

[maust]

I'd say that all things considered, the Chiefs' run should be considered roughly equal to the back half of the Patriots' run. I would personally put the Patriots higher due to 28-3, having no blowout losses, and beating the Chiefs directly in 2018 in the AFCCG, but admittedly I am biased.

I'd say that all things considered your consideration is sadly lacking the appropriate amount of tribalism and entirely too objective. You would 'personally put the Patriots higher' is some damn weak sauce sir. WE are US, the superior sons of New England, and they are just them, the inbred and ill mannered offspring of fly over state meth heads. The back half of the Patriots run was far superior, in fact it was epically epic SIR. Where is your sense of New England pride? I submit you need to look at the man in the mirror and seriously question his Patriotism you commie shill. (insert My Country Tis Of Thee audio here)

In the meantime, you had best return control of his account back to the real Ross. Don't make us send @One-If-By-Sea and @RobertWeathers or worse @Sam Bam Cunningham and Mrs Maust over there.

 

[dliverey44]

Who has the longer streak of making AFC championships

Brady has 8.

 

[dliverey44]

You oughta back on out and go back to 36 hours ago when your boy was still riding the wave of make believe.

My boy??

 

[Wozzy]

Patrick Mahomes looked like garbage at the end of the 2020 season when his offensive line was a walking mash unit of injuries.

He’s not regressing or getting worse, his team was worse… specifically his line. Brady looked bad when his line was bad. Every QB in history has.

No matter how many times QB fanboys here tell us one person was responsible for success in the ultimate team sport… they’re wrong. With poor blocking and team everyone looks mortal.

 

[signbabybrady]

Brady has 8.

 

[dliverey44]

I thought so, but not sure now. 2011-2018