Schefter: Drake Maye to start vs Houston [Also reported by Rapoport, Reiss, Kyed and others]

[JoeyCee]

olannjng

 

[jimnance]

Just to be a smart a$s... Per the Journal of Orthopaedic & Sports Physical Therapy on Elite Ballet Dancers:

Professional dance companies have reported that as many as 67% to 95% of their dancers are injured on an annual basis.

The average ballet dancer is MUCH tougher than the average nfl player.
It's really not even close.
Most ballet dancers are performing with broken bones in either their feet or legs every time they dance.
When you consider the torque that is exerted on those legs and feet for several hours it is amazing.
Even more amazing? They can't take any kind of painkillers before a performance since the concentration required is so intense.
When a dancer breaks a bone or has a serious injury, they never tell anyone- they hide it. Why? Because ballet-dancing is so hyper-competitive that if a dancer misses any time because of injury or for any reason, their career is over. They'll never get their starting job back.This is something they have trained incredibly hard for all their lives, since they were little girls.
NFL players are ****ies compared to pro ballet dancers.

 

[Ring 6]

A lot of QBs are over drafted, it’s almost a pandemic of how short the NFL is on quality play from the position. I agree what separates the ok, from the good, from the great is how they handle pressure and adversity. We will never know for sure one way or the other but I firmly believe any player benefits from sitting, learning, and working on their issues without the pressure in starting. Once those issues are worked out then game experience is the best thing for them. Darnold got rushed into the starting lineup relying on those raw abilities and kept getting worse as Defenses learned his weaknesses. It wasn’t until he stopped starting, had the time to fix his weaknesses, THEN came back that the game experience was important and he looks like a decent QB again. Though to be fair having JJ certainly doesn’t hurt. I wonder what Darnold could have been if he had been drafted by a competent team that prioritized his development over looking good in the media.

Where we disagree is that QBs can’t learn those aspects of the game sitting on ithe sidelines. They can get more comfortable with the offense, but you can’t learn how to play the position at this level until the bullets are live.
Darnold would have been the same guy if he sat his rookie year, only a year behind. He wasn’t figuring those things out without game reps

He didn’t fix any weaknesses by sitting. He just ended up in a better situation. If he was in Carolina today, he’d be playing the same as when he was there. He was flawed. He didn’t get those flaws by playing. He eliminated them (to whatever degree) by playing. He took longer than most, but he was more ****ed up than most

I’ll put it this way
1) if he had sat for a year or 2,he wood not be as good today as he is because he would still need that experience.
2) if he sat as a rookie and played in year 2,he would have been better than his rookie year, but not as good as he was year 2 by playing year 1
3) playing Darnold may not have been best for the jets but it was best for Darnolds development m
4) the jets would be better today if they kept him and traded down
5) he was also affected by terrible coaching both in NY and Carolina

 

[Ring 6]

Yes, a Left Tackle in the Top 5 who could anchor the line for the next 10 years is the kind of thing that sets organizations up for the long-term, especially when it protects your #3 pick from last year whom you believe is the man to take us there. But it's not just the first round that you get that top 5 pick, it's EVERY round. I don't know why people don't understand this.

There is no real historical proof that picking 5th in every round gets you a better draft than picking 8th, 11th or 14th.

And the damage you do to your team by not trying to win and suffering through a 2-15 season is real, and much greater than the perceived benefit of picking a few spots sooner.

A 7-10 team making progress has a very different culture, and off season than a 2-15 disaster. In our case at 2-15 gm, coach and entire staff will have to make decisions that are win now or be fired.

 

[pazrul72]

Where we disagree is that QBs can’t learn those aspects of the game sitting on ithe sidelines. They can get more comfortable with the offense, but you can’t learn how to play the position at this level until the bullets are live.
Darnold would have been the same guy if he sat his rookie year, only a year behind. He wasn’t figuring those things out without game reps

He didn’t fix any weaknesses by sitting. He just ended up in a better situation. If he was in Carolina today, he’d be playing the same as when he was there. He was flawed. He didn’t get those flaws by playing. He eliminated them (to whatever degree) by playing. He took longer than most, but he was more ****ed up than most

I’ll put it this way
1) if he had sat for a year or 2,he wood not be as good today as he is because he would still need that experience.
2) if he sat as a rookie and played in year 2,he would have been better than his rookie year, but not as good as he was year 2 by playing year 1
3) playing Darnold may not have been best for the jets but it was best for Darnolds development m
4) the jets would be better today if they kept him and traded down
5) he was also affected by terrible coaching both in NY and Carolina

All of that is simply your opinion backed up by no evidence that you repeat over and over again like hearing it for the 100th time is going to change anyones mind. Which i find ironic when the very QB you are using as an example got BETTER after sitting and being a backup for awhile. So which is it? Circumstances matter and you can do things that help your QB, or QBs are great or suck purely on if they handle adversity or not so might as well throw them into the deep end?

 

[Ring 6]

All of that is simply your opinion backed up by no evidence that you repeat over and over again like hearing it for the 100th time is going to change anyones mind. Which i find ironic when the very QB you are using as an example got BETTER after sitting and being a backup for awhile. So which is it? Circumstances matter and you can do things that help your QB, or QBs are great or suck purely on if they handle adversity or not so might as well throw them into the deep end?

And everything you say is your opinion backed by no evidence that you repeat.

The Qb and the situation are 2 separate things.
QBs play better in better situations
QBs play better with experience

If Darnold had never started a game in his career he would ve making the same mistakes now he made in NY.

 

[stcjones]

One step closer to Joe Milton. The plan is going swimmingly.

Mayo is trying to keep his job and appease the fans….not sure this is the best move…..lost season but I don’t want him getting bad injury or getting rattled around like Mac which kills his development

 

[Hyped]

doesnt matter, moot point...

the nfl watched the clots trot out curtis painter in 2011 in their suck for luck campaign and did nothing...

The Colts ain't the Patriots...... even if BB/Brady are gone...the league doesn't love us...

 

[JohnJH]

I'll throw this question out there to my fellow PATSFANS: We know that Maye has been named the starter against The Texans. What would it take for Kraft/Mayo/Wolf to not start Maye for another game after the next one (or for any other games the rest of this season), if he doesn't get injured? Discuss.

 

[slash83]

Kyed reporting this was not a knee jerk reaction to the Miami loss.

 

[JohnJH]

Kyed reporting this was not a knee jerk reaction to the Miami loss.

And what do you believe regarding Kyed's statement believeslash83?

 

[Ring 6]

I'll throw this question out there to my fellow PATSFANS: We know that Maye has been named the starter against The Texans. What would it take for Kraft/Mayo/Wolf to not start Maye for another game after the next one (or for any other games the rest of this season), if he doesn't get injured? Discuss.

What if in his first 2 games he was a combined 25-47 for 254 yards and no TDs?

 

[upstater1]

I don't understand why they would broadcast this ahead of time. We used to keep the opponent guessing.

Whoever is leaking this is making it more difficult for Maye.

 

[signbabybrady]

I'll throw this question out there to my fellow PATSFANS: We know that Maye has been named the starter against The Texans. What would it take for Kraft/Mayo/Wolf to not start Maye for another game after the next one (or for any other games the rest of this season), if he doesn't get injured? Discuss.

 

[slash83]

And what do you believe regarding Kyed's statement believeslash83?

I’m 50/50, I would have been okay sitting him out 1 more week.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I don't understand why they would broadcast this ahead of time. We used to keep the opponent guessing.

Whoever is leaking this is making it more difficult for Maye.

Whoever? Rapaport reported it and we know that Pats management is Rapaport's source. Most likely someone instructed by the Krafts or RK himself.

Resale ticket prices were as low as $40 last week, so this is a panic move to drive fans back to Foxboro. RK does not want people guessing, he wants hype and hope to bring fans back.

 

[Horace's Ivories]

Just to be a smart a$s... Per the Journal of Orthopaedic & Sports Physical Therapy on Elite Ballet Dancers:

Professional dance companies have reported that as many as 67% to 95% of their dancers are injured on an annual basis.

My wife is an ex pro dancer and currently trains dancers - specifically injury avoidance and technique. Most ballet dancers overuse their SI joint - tons of jumping/lifting - dancing on pointe - injury central

 

[Pape]

Kyed reporting this was not a knee jerk reaction to the Miami loss.

*cough* ******** *cough*

the fact that they felt compelled to say it belies the statement

 

[goheels22002]

Great highlight clip. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a right handed Qb out that much zip on throws while moving to his left.

Maye was great off-platform at UNC and had good instincts about avoiding the rush at the college level. The NFL is a lot faster, but he's been around a pretty good defense for the past few months to have a feel for what he's about to deal with.

 

[goheels22002]

If they wanted him behind a healthy o-line he should have started week 1. This is the NFL. Perfect situations dont exist.

I never thought it was strictly about the offensive line. That was a consideration, but they need Drake Maye to do two things that a a rookie always struggles with: 1) know the playbook so well that in game circumstances they know what play they are hearing being called by the OC, and 2) reading the defense pre-snap and having an idea where the pressure is coming from.

Brady started out with a fairly basic job in 2001-2003, and became the best there ever was over his career. He learned a lot from being in the same room with Drew Bledsoe and I think we now know that Charlie Weis was good OC and teacher.

It's going to be fun finding out if Drake Maye and Alex Van Pelt are up to the task. I have tremendous confidence in Drake Maye and his ability to react to what is happening around him and make plays off platform that Jacoby Brissette could never do.