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It sounds like Sanders' pro day went well enough to corroborate his good film. I think Cleveland takes him at 2 because they are desperate for an inexpensive QB, and if they don't take him at 2 and think they can get him later:
- the Giants could take him at 3 (at least a 50-50 chance)
- the Saints would likely take him at 9 as their plan B to Derek Carr & Rattler
- the Steelers would take him at 21 or in the mid-teens, even if they sign Rodgers
- if he fell to the Rams in the 20's, they'd take him as Stafford's heir (he's 37)

If the Browns think they can trade down and still get him - e.g. with the Jags at 5 - the Giants are still there, as well as the Saints trading up with us to #4. Also I see Dart as another Pickett so he's not a replacement for Sanders as a r2 choice.

So I think the Browns are kind of locked into taking him.
 
Deon last night on some 2025 NFL Draft channel.

Sanders and Hunter should go 1 and 2 in that order. Sanders has shown 4 seasons of greatness on the field in Colorado and off the field with his rock steady leadership and maturity. Win or lose. Who ever gets Sanders will control the NFL for years to come.
 
It sounds like Sanders' pro day went well enough to corroborate his good film. I think Cleveland takes him at 2 because they are desperate for an inexpensive QB, and if they don't take him at 2 and think they can get him later:
- the Giants could take him at 3 (at least a 50-50 chance)
- the Saints would likely take him at 9 as their plan B to Derek Carr & Rattler
- the Steelers would take him at 21 or in the mid-teens, even if they sign Rodgers
- if he fell to the Rams in the 20's, they'd take him as Stafford's heir (he's 37)

If the Browns think they can trade down and still get him - e.g. with the Jags at 5 - the Giants are still there, as well as the Saints trading up with us to #4. Also I see Dart as another Pickett so he's not a replacement for Sanders as a r2 choice.

So I think the Browns are kind of locked into taking him.
Sanders will be a BUST.

Guaranteed Bust if the Browns take him because they suck at drafting QBs.
 
I am now totally convinced that Sanders will NOT be picked in the top 3 and we will not get Carter or Hunter (either would be ideal). So I guess I'll spend the next 2 plus weeks trying to rap my head around what we will do on day one.

Now I don't believe that anyone we will pick with #4 will be a disaster. It's just that it won't be the blue chipper who would help take away the pain of the 24 season.

Ward, Carter and Hunter are going to be the top 3, but who will be #4 will have at least a half dozen names and trade scenarios attached to it. When you draft in the 20's and 30's or even in the teens, you are rarely the subject of national attention in the draft season. Now the Pats are going to be in speculation heaven in the couple of weeks leading up to the day. Will they trade down? Will they take the OT? Will they take the DT, or the WR, or the Edge guy, etc

Strap 'em on guys. It's going to be a wild few weeks.
I think Pats go OT
 
I think Pats go OT
That of course, would be the safest pick. Campbell would get the least media and fan backlash. But do you pass up, say Graham would might be an annual all pro for someone who might end up being an average but solid starting LT or a very good LG.

If we do go LT, then I'm thinking Membou, who isn't as good as Campbell right now, but has the physical traits to have a higher ceiling and is only 20 years old. Do we have the Patience to live through the growing pains to get to his long-term potential.
 
The reality is that we have absolutely no clue what the Giants are thinking. Everyone outside of these organizations are still speculating at this point, even the most connected media members. As Belichick once stated, accurate information about what teams plan to do doesn’t start leaking out until 12 to 24 hours prior to the draft.

Some fans need to stop pretending that they are the GMs of these teams and stating that there are any absolutes or sure things when it comes to the NFL draft, with extremely rare exceptions (ie. the Manning/Luck/Lawrence years). This isn’t about what we would do at 3, or even what is logical. Nothing is 100% certain when it comes to the top of this draft, even Ward going 1 (if someone gave Tenn a stupid number of 2025 and 2026 draft picks, they would be willing to pass on him). Did some of you not watch offseason Hard Knocks last year or remember when the Giants paid Jones $40 per year? Schoen is more than capable of making an ill-advised decision. Also, if he and Daboll choose Carter (if Hunter goes to Cleveland), they are likely picking him for their replacements, because Carter as part of a three man edge rotation with Thibodeaux and Burns isn’t going to make move the needle enough for them to survive the chopping block next offseason. Sure, they could consider trading Thibodeaux if they take Carter but they would not be bargaining at a position of strength if they do and Giants fans would probably not be happy with the return.

Never underestimate what someone will do if he/she is desperate to void the unemployment line. If they pick Sanders, there is a chance that Daboll works could work some magic with him and having a promising rookie QB would give the HC and GM at least one more year of job security. It’s possible that this is a smoke screen and they are hoping drum up interest in pick 3 by pumping Sanders’ tires. Are they doing it as favor Deion? Probably not but you never know if there could be a quid pro quo situation. Could they also be thinking about the possibility that Sanders may drop into the mid first round and want to determine if he is worth trading up for from the top of the second? Maybe, but I don’t see him getting past New Orleans. A more likely scenario would be if they trade back a few spots but stay in the top 10.

In summary, it is not the most likely scenario but nobody should be shocked if they take Sanders at 3.
 
The reality is that we have absolutely no clue what the Giants are thinking. Everyone outside of these organizations are still speculating at this point, even the most connected media members. As Belichick once stated, accurate information about what teams plan to do doesn’t start leaking out until 12 to 24 hours prior to the draft.
I don't know. Last year the Pats said they knew weeks ahead that it was Williams and then Daniels. I think the info was pretty accurate at the combine last year based on the Giants Hard Knocks.

The consensus mocks had the top 4 picks nailed down well before the draft last year. Teams spend the entire year analyzing these prospects, they have a pretty good idea after the combine what they are going to target. I rarely see these supposed smoke screens.

This year the top 8 are all over 50% in the consensus mock draft. Pretty good consensus. The only thing to throw these off would be trades. Giants could trade down if they wanted Sanders as they could get him lower, and Pats could trade down if someone wanted Graham ahead of the Jaguars.

Teams are analyzing what others will do pretty early on.
 
I don't know. Last year the Pats said they knew weeks ahead that it was Williams and then Daniels. I think the info was pretty accurate at the combine last year based on the Giants Hard Knocks.

The consensus mocks had the top 4 picks nailed down well before the draft last year. Teams spend the entire year analyzing these prospects, they have a pretty good idea after the combine what they are going to target. I rarely see these supposed smoke screens.

This year the top 8 are all over 50% in the consensus mock draft. Pretty good consensus. The only thing to throw these off would be trades. Giants could trade down if they wanted Sanders as they could get him lower, and Pats could trade down if someone wanted Graham ahead of the Jaguars.

Teams are analyzing what others will do pretty early on.
I could’ve mentioned William in the same category as manning/Luck/Lawrence. When the Bears gave him their playbook well before the draft, that was a pretty good indication that he was going number one, if anyone had any doubt prior to that. You are right about Daniel’s but that’s still the exception rather than the rule. Until the night before or the morning of the draft, rumors were still flying that the Patriots were interested in JJ McCarthy, when by all accounts Maye was their guy all along. McCarthy was also being linked to the Giants right up until draft day.
 
Sanders will be a BUST.

Guaranteed Bust if the Browns take him because they suck at drafting QBs.
Nope. First Ballot Hall of Famer…yup. First ballot. But check back with me after the draft.
 
I never really got the Shedeur Sanders Slanders (gonna copyright that). He a really good QB. Had some great moments in college ball, and helped turn around two horrendous programs. If you look at stats alone, last year he was excellent, over 4100 yards, 37 TD passes and 10 INTs with basically one weapon, no running game, and an average line. He’s extremely accurate. He may not have the strongest arm, but it’s not weak.

I remember last year pre draft, some of these same draft “experts” on this site were saying they didn’t want Jayden Daniels because he allegedly had a weak arm. Bottom line, Sanders is a good QB, consensus #2 QB in the draft. If he goes to the Giants, he would do well, they have good weapons. I’m
 
Kirk cousins is a big factor here i think. I doubt flacco and pickett are Clevelands only plan at qb so there could still be a chance here if they don’t pursue kirk. Is atl really willing to hold onto cousins or are they just waiting until the draft finishes so kirk knows where he will be the guy.
 
At least 2 teams will go QB within the first 3 picks. Book it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ward and Sanders go in the top 3 and New Orleans tries to trade up to 4 or 5 to draft Dart. I wouldn't bet on it. But wouldn't be shocked either.

Hey, no one saw Nix going that high last year. Teams get stupid and desperate when it comes to QB prospects.
 
If Carter somehow is there at 4….run do not walk to turn in the pick
He would take the pats d to a whole different level
Great player. Will be a top 3 sack guy in next 2 years

I can not believe the giants or Browns would be stupid enough to draft Sanders in top 3
 
If Carter somehow is there at 4….run do not walk to turn in the pick
He would take the pats d to a whole different level
Great player. Will be a top 3 sack guy in next 2 years

I can not believe the giants or Browns would be stupid enough to draft Sanders in top 3
He would be throwing to Greatness on the Giants M Nabers. Regarding the Browns: J Jeudy had Great year catching passes from Winston.
 

Has there ever been a QB, people have turned on faster?

Part of me is thinking this is misinformation season he’s going top 10 easy.
 
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