Rumor or Speculation (IDK): Patriots shopping Amendola

[SalemPats]

I think this might be true. Which would be great news for Patriots fans

Danny Amendola, New England Patriots parting ways? - NFL.com

 

[Tunescribe]

Whatever man I did not mean it like that. I was making fun of the fact that people always label those players the next Welker. I was not trying to sound racist at all. I am not racist, homophobic or anything else. I apologize if it came across that way and I didn't mean to offend anyone including you.

I will accept your apology.

Here's the thing: in the past year I've seen too many comments on this board directed toward white players on the Patriots solely because they're white. As if this is made "OK" by the fact that whoever posts such comments is white as well. People claim that Amendola's race has something to do with his alleged lack of durability, or that BB has a preference for Caucasian slot receivers and offensive linemen because they appear to dominate those positions. It's all B.S.

I'm far from a P.C. freak but I get damn tired of this crap and will continue to call it out when I see it.

 

[Joker]

 

[MassPats38]

I think this might be true. Which would be great news for Patriots fans

Danny Amendola, New England Patriots parting ways? - NFL.com

This is just a rehash of the first article mentioned in the thread. It is a reference to Pompei's article adding a further opinion. If anything, this guy is just late to the party.

 

[supafly]

This is just a rehash of the first article mentioned in the thread. It is a reference to Pompei's article adding a further opinion. If anything, this guy is just late to the party.

That's the thing, I don't mind the idea of exploring trades (not that I can honestly see us getting good compensation selling at the low point), but ALL of these other articles are simply referencing the same Bleacher Report article.

 

[fnordcircle]

However you choose to soft-pedal this now, the fact you've done it is unnecessary and offensive.

Not funny in the slightest.

Manlet found.

 

[ausbacker]

I threw it in because it happened. People compare those players to Welker and have for years and it does have to do with the fact that they are white. I never here Randell Cobb or TY Hilton being called the next Welker. I was not race labeling at all I was actually poking fun at the fact that people always believe that. I don't actually believe it I think Reggie Dunn as just as much of a chance to be the next Welker as Moe.

But let's not pretend that people do not base that comparisons simplistically on their races.

It's probably because T.Y. Hilton and Randall Cobb play a large proportion of their football outside the hashmarks. Welker's best work was inside.

If the Patriots want to field a team of Eskimos, Chinese, Turkmen etc. I couldn't give a stuff. If they can play football they can play football.

 

[AzorianPats]

I find the labelling of white WR's to be just as annoying as that of black QB's. Before Welker, every white WR was considered the next Wayne Chrebet, except Eric Decker, he's the next Ed McCaffrey. If you ask me, guys like JE and DA remind me more of Victor Cruz, which is another thing, I never seen Cruz compared to Welker. Why's that?

I'm not an RG3 fan but props to him his rookie season, before a game against Carolina, the media was constantly comparing him to Newton. His response was something to the effect of his game being completely different, only thing in common they had was race. He (RG3) found his game to be more similar to Aaron Rodgers. Why couldn't he be the next Rodgers?

I was happy he turned it around and said that.

 

[convertedpatsfan]

One thing about Amendola that bothers me and always has is if he was such a terrific player, why Jeff Fisher just let him walk away. The Rams had plenty of cap space; they need offensive weapons as bad as any team in the NFL, why would they let him go. People forget that the Dolphins did not let Welker walk away they received a second and seventh round draft pick in exchange for him. The Rams let Amendola walk and received nothing. That is a red flag to me, in the NFL with tags, exclusive negotiation periods, etc. if teams have a good player they retain them.

It might be part of the evaluation, but I don't think it's conclusive one way or another. Lots of good players leave teams for lots of different reasons.

Injury history is actually a common denominator...after all, Peyton Manning was allowed to leave Indy.

He's not the only face of the franchise who has left for nothing. Julius Peppers also walked recently, as did Mario Williams.

Sometimes it's the money, like with Greg Jennings, Karlos Dansby, Vincent Jackson, Carl Nicks, Cortland Finnegan, and Brandon Carr.

This isn't to say DA was good or bad or worth it or not. It's just to say that a player leaving his original team doesn't necessarily mean he was a bad player.

 

[50-yard-line]

This is just a rehash of the first article mentioned in the thread. It is a reference to Pompei's article adding a further opinion. If anything, this guy is just late to the party.

Oh, it's more than that. It's a rehash of the Pompei article AND (the earlier Boston Globe) the Volin conjecture.

This is what separates sports media in Boston, New York, Philly...the media can create a story and that story has real-world ramifications on the people involved.

Reiss mentioned that he feels bad for DA having to read all this stuff.

One thing about this newest link: "A decade ago, Bill Belichick & Co. swooped in for the steal when the Cincinnati Bengals devalued stud running back Corey Dillon because his production nosedived while gutting it out on a torn groin of his own."

There you go, Brady6, right there...production nosedived because he gutted it out on a torn groin.

If the Pats trade Amendola for decent value, then it's a smart move. If they simply cut him...yuck.

 

[Brady6]

I will accept your apology.

Here's the thing: in the past year I've seen too many comments on this board directed toward white players on the Patriots solely because they're white. As if this is made "OK" by the fact that whoever posts such comments is white as well. People claim that Amendola's race has something to do with his alleged lack of durability, or that BB has a preference for Caucasian slot receivers and offensive linemen because they appear to dominate those positions. It's all B.S.

I'm far from a P.C. freak but I get damn tired of this crap and will continue to call it out when I see it.

My intent was not to label them; I was actually poking fun at the fact that media members consistently create these ridiculous comparisons to Wes Welker.

Danny Amendola
Julian Edelman
Jordan Shipley
Jamie Ebert
TJ Moe

Others have been labeled as that too, heck USA Today ran an article labeling Braxton Berrios an 18 year old Caucasian college recruit the next Wes Welker.

Is recruit Braxton Berrios the next Wes Welker?

I admit I should have been more explanative in how I went about posting, and should not have tried to find humor in a serious issue in the world. I do feel it is dumb that media members correlate skin color with slot receivers, Reggie Dunn could be the next Welker and Aaron Dobson could be the next Eric Decker, the only thing that is relevant is their physical makeup and size.

I also would like to apologize for the implication that you were doing this because of Joker. That was out of line and baseless and I do not believe you would actually do that.

Joker, I would sincerely like to bury the hatchet between us. I know that I have said some things as have you but I do respect you as a member and enjoy much of what you post in here. I also recognize that I can be excessive with topics; I lock into things like a dog with a bone and have no recognition for my belaboring of the point. Anyway, I am sincerely sorry for anything offensive I have said and hope that we can put this animosity behind us.

It's probably because T.Y. Hilton and Randall Cobb play a large proportion of their football outside the hashmarks. Welker's best work was inside.

If the Patriots want to field a team of Eskimos, Chinese, Turkmen etc. I couldn't give a stuff. If they can play football they can play football.

AB, I agree, I too do not care what the person’s skin color, sexual preference, and background is. I made a poor attempt at humor.

 

[Nunchucks]

I find the labelling of white WR's to be just as annoying as that of black QB's. Before Welker, every white WR was considered the next Wayne Chrebet, except Eric Decker, he's the next Ed McCaffrey. If you ask me, guys like JE and DA remind me more of Victor Cruz, which is another thing, I never seen Cruz compared to Welker. Why's that?

I'm not an RG3 fan but props to him his rookie season, before a game against Carolina, the media was constantly comparing him to Newton. His response was something to the effect of his game being completely different, only thing in common they had was race. He (RG3) found his game to be more similar to Aaron Rodgers. Why couldn't he be the next Rodgers?

I was happy he turned it around and said that.

Because Cruz is bigger, has more speed and more big play ability. Welker is an inside the box type player.

 

[Snake Eyes]

I find the labelling of white WR's to be just as annoying as that of black QB's. Before Welker, every white WR was considered the next Wayne Chrebet, except Eric Decker, he's the next Ed McCaffrey.

Oh c'mon, it's because those comparisons are so ridiculous that they're so much fun! This is why I want Jeff Janis so bad, he is the next Wes Welker

Why couldn't he be the next Rodgers?

Rodgers is a pocket passer that runs when it makes sense. Griffin has been very weak in the pocket in his 2nd season because that primary threat of him to run was removed. Griffin could be like Rodgers but he'd need to dramatically work on playing from the pocket.

 

[Kontradiction]

Oh c'mon, it's because those comparisons are so ridiculous that they're so much fun! This is why I want Jeff Janis so bad, he is the next Wes Welker



Rodgers is a pocket passer that runs when it makes sense. Griffin has been very weak in the pocket in his 2nd season because that primary threat of him to run was removed. Griffin could be like Rodgers but he'd need to dramatically work on playing from the pocket.

The main thing that scares me about Janis is the drops. If the team makes moves at WR and brings in a James Jones or a Golden Tate or a Sanders or a Ford (etc.) then I wouldn't mind seeing Janis drafted in the late rounds to let him develop so he's not thrown into the fire immediately. This team already had it's lion's share of problems with drops out of young WR's last year. I don't want to live through that again in 2014.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

The best thing the Pats can do to help both Amendola and /or Edelman is to sign someone who can go over the top! Welker's best years were when Moss was clearing out the middle, making sure the safeties had to first check to see that Moss was streaking down the field. The Pats have no one now, that opens up the short middle for the TE/WR. Think about it, if you had a true deep threat, Amendola, Vareen and the Gronk would all be match-up nightmares for a secondary.

Amendola had a great first game, and then he played hurt the rest of the year, I wouldn't sell him off to cheaply. I'm all for bringing back Edelman, but lets all remember, that until this year, the knock on him is was that he couldn't finish a season! Funny how a single year of staying healthy changes all that. For those of you old enough to remember, that was the big knock on Curtis Martin during his days with the Pats, then I don't think he missed a single game as a Jet! Hamstring pulls can be avoided by staying in shape/stretching everything else is just luck. Some guy puts his helmet on your knee (sob, Gronk) your going to be out. maybe Amendola played when he shouldn't have, his game is his quickness and with a pulled groin, that just doesn't exist!

I still like the Onion's idea of BB tagging Calvin Johnson as the Pats franchise player! Could you imagine if he ever played with Brady?

 

[1960Pats]

Absolutely correct. Race-labeling is racism, pure and simple.

I didn't find the comment offensive at all. If you hadn't brought it down this path it never would have been noticed. Not that you care or should, but I'm more offended by you blowing it out of proportion, no matter the reason.

I've taken the time to catch up to every post in this thread. I will continue on and see if it can stop slipping toward the sewer, where it seems a small minority want to take it.

I really am curious what Pats fans think about the topic that's supposed to be being discussed.

 

[1960Pats]

Curran posts here from time to time under the screen name of prentice mccray. Bedard also stops in from time to time as well, as does Shalize Manza Young.

They should stop by. There's a lot of good things here.

From my early days as an AOLe to now, I've learned that there are many people out here who know wtf they're talking about and how to say it, even if they aren't getting paid for that ability.

 

[Tunescribe]

I didn't find the comment offensive at all. If you hadn't brought it down this path it never would have been noticed. Not that you care or should, but I'm more offended by you blowing it out of proportion, no matter the reason.

More than one person noticed it and commented. If you wish to remain ignorantly oblivious to race labeling that's your choice. I didn't "bring it down a path," I simply pointed out that it has no place here.

 

[TBR]

What would Amendola's trade value be?

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

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