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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Look at the competition, Irsay, Davis, MAra,Snyder????? . MAybe Chiefs or Eagles ownership is as stableI don't know all 32 owners. Obviously Kraft has to be up there, but is he really the best? Awesome if true
Not a huge brag. They are competing w the likes of Cleveland, Indy, NYJ, ATL, Raiders, Jax, Texans... all total pieces of feces.Yup. We can make fun of the Krafts all we want. Still the best owners in the game.
Yes. That’s their problem. Hahaha. They had KC and they blew it. They’ve squandered years of « having more talent than most teams ».Funny thing is, if you read the Texans' boards, the one thing that they all agree with regarding filling the vacancies is no more fishing for replacements from the Patriots' pond.
2001 Brown, Patten, WigginsLet him go. Bring in someone who can find Cam a Wr
No, but not having good ones makes winning more difficult unless you also have a 1st-ballot HOF QB who can make chicken salad out of them.2001 Brown, Patten, Wiggins
2003/2004 Branch, Givens, Graham
2007 Moss, Welker, Stallworth, Watson
2009 Moss, Welker, Edelman, Watson
2010 Moss, Welker, Edelman, Gronk, Hernandez
2011 Welker, Edelman, Branch, Gronk, Hernandez
2018 Edelman, Hogan, Gronk
Does WR / Receiving TE excellence guarantee SB success ?
2019 BrownsNo, but not having good ones makes winning more difficult unless you also have a 1st-ballot HOF QB who can make chicken salad out of them.
Except there is some teeth to this one because the Patriots filed tampering charges against the Texans last season. Caserio can hit the bricks for all I care. BB picks the groceries at the end of the day anyway.Every time a coach or front office person is rumored to leave, the world is coming to an end. And it NEVER happens. I believe Dante Scarnecchia is a legitimate HOF candidate. Yet, the offensive line this season, under some adverse conditions, has been very good, in my mind.
To be fair, that's because the Patriots saw what happened the first time and decided to have assistants (Popovich and Bricillo) to train under him.Every time a coach or front office person is rumored to leave, the world is coming to an end. And it NEVER happens. I believe Dante Scarnecchia is a legitimate HOF candidate. Yet, the offensive line this season, under some adverse conditions, has been very good, in my mind.
Googs tried to change the system, too. Bricillo and Popovich are committed to maintaining Scar's system, too. (And I think he might still be helping them grocery shop, so to speak.)Agree with your first sentences but maybe Scar was SO good that his legacy is strong enough momentum for a couple seasons.
Patriot culture, absent a total future revolution, will always be value to team based good fiscal cap management. Talent misjudgement aside.
Draft mismanagement takes a few years to become obvious. This homer believes we could use some serious upgrade in draft assessment, particularly with WRs
By what measure? Because they hired belichick?Yup. We can make fun of the Krafts all we want. Still the best owners in the game.
That would be a major step backward.Maybe Caserio exits stage left and Dimitrioff enters stage right?
But we are judging personnel decision made with the GOAT on the roster. Surely had he not been here they wouldn’t have taken the same approach to the position that goes hand in handNo, but not having good ones makes winning more difficult unless you also have a 1st-ballot HOF QB who can make chicken salad out of them.
I asked that question too and got a non-answer saying he's better than Irsay and Snyder.By what measure? Because they hired belichick?
I asked that question too and got a non-answer saying he's better than Irsay and Snyder.
So we ask again: who are the top 5 owners in the league and why do you say Kraft is the best?
Yes, you're right and I think that supports my point.To be fair, that's because the Patriots saw what happened the first time and decided to have assistants (Popovich and Bricillo) to train under him.
You say that but what owner would you prefer over Kraft? You mentioned Khan, but he at least has the luxury for money not to be an issue. Spanos is a cheap prick. York let the players outrun the coach. Jerry needs to be in control. Green Bay has no owners. The Saints owners have the Church scandal. Mara hid his kickers spousal abuse and also got way too sentimental with Eli. Detroit has a history of pissing off generational talent.Not a huge brag. They are competing w the likes of Cleveland, Indy, NYJ, ATL, Raiders, Jax, Texans... all total pieces of feces.
I don’t have a lot of respect for Kraft. It mostly stems from his addiction to being in the in-crowd (the 32, celebs, baby face gfs) and his fake good guy persona. I might be in the minority.
He is better than Irsay. Weeeeeeeeeee.