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#Raiders source on Tommy Kelly: Helluva player at limited reps especially if motivated. Played too many reps in Oak (& price will be better)
I don't know. Dillon showed signs of decline his last year.
And again, we don't know if he was misused in a new system last uear.
I think you may be underselling it to say it is a Warren type of signing. Warren showed several years of decline and was decent in a limited role with the Pats.
I think Kelly could be far better in a limited and more important role (as a pass rusher).
Could be wrong, but you are making your evaluation on one year of production and we don't know for sure it was an age or motivation issue that caused his decline.
I haven't talked about Welker or the Patriots cheapness for a while just because that thread is always on your mind doesn't mean Im any more right or wrong then you Lord Shmessy. Hilarious how your response to me is to bring up stuff that I never said in this thread.
Ooh nice snark there I'm the most clueless person on the board because I don't agree with you. Maybe you should realize everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Hmmm. You should probably read that again. Clearly you didn't SAY that you believe he's been a bum his entire career, but you're acting like it. Go back and read your posts with a shred of objectivity and maybe you'll see it for yourself.
And of course you're not counting on it. I'm not surprised. The team could develop of time machine, sign Reggie White in his prime, and you'd still crap all over it.
No, what you are being is a **** for your relentless negativity on every move the Pats make.
Its one thing to question this signing, its another to bash it in post after post, while making poor unrelated analogies, and completely ignoring other people's legitimate opinions. So don't give us that crap about not being allowed to have an opposing opinion. Its perfectly fine to think that Tommy Kelly wasn't the best signing. Just back it up with more than the offal you are currently using for reasons
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I never understand why people automatically assume that any player we sign HAS to play an impact. role. Sometimes a signing is just another signing getting us to 80 Hope for the best and be prepared for the worst. But as of right now, the Pats will seem to have more talent and depth competing for those DL positions this year. More competition means better results. when the final team is rolled out.
I don't agree with that either.
However, the guy who wrote that hasn't been a one note piano the past 3 weeks, repeating his mantra over and over again.
Why are you here? Seriously? You never have anything positive to say. You're always complaining? Are your panties still in a wad over Moss being traded? Get over it already..
There is no mob mentality on this board. That is the talk of an incompetent fool.
Is Kelly a long term solution? No. And absolutely no one has said as much. You acting like he's a waste of a roster space without having seen him play shows your own pessimistic bias.
Maybe you should learn to read instead of spewing the way you do. Shmessy said nothing about you not being entitled to your opinion. But what people like yourself always EPICALLY FAIL to understand is that, by voicing your opinion, you are then entitled to hear the opinions of others. Whether you like it or not.
Do everyone a favor and follow your own advice instead of whining all the time. It would do yourself a world of good.
It just seems like your opinion can be pretty predictable.
Did you notice the posts I was responding to? Early in the thread, I was responding to posts comparing him to Haynesworth and calling him a bum not what he could be here in 2013. I talked about 2010 and 2011 without 2012 to show how he wasn't a bum and nothing like Haynesworth who mailed it in after he got paid.
Congratulations for making a "strong" argument by taking my posts out of context and giving them meanings that I never gave to them. BTW, I acknowledged multiple times even early on that last year was not a good year for Kelly.
Please come back to me with a valid counter argument without using cheap tactics like using my quotes out of context. I thought you were better than this. I guess not.
I guarantee you that Kelly will find his way into BB's doghouse with his tendency to jump offsides during the most inopportune times. 3rd and 4 etc. He must have done that 3-4 times this past year including twice in one game that I recall. He also tends to lose his head and get personal fouls and other penalties at the worst possible times.
I don't think he's going to have a all pro season but I don't understand why anyone would not like this signing, Wilfork is going to have two blockers on him at all times all Kelly has to do is push he's guy back anuff so that the QB cant step up in the pocket and the edge rushers can get to him
And how is that a bad thing or make me a "****"? If my opinion 2 months ago is that signing old guys past their primes like we have for years in order to fill holes that have not been filled for years is not going to work, why would signing an old guy, who is past his prime, going to make my opinion any different?
I actually do not even know what you or others who say this mean, should I be wishy washy with my opinions?
Armstead....If he can get his head out of his ass, straighten up and be ready to ball for a winner, look out. Wilfork-Kelly tandem would devour the inside.
Only downside is that both he and Wilfork are now in their 30s. I still want a young DT to develop.
As others have pointed out he was unable to push the guy back last year. And saying that's all he has to do is pretty unfair, if it was easy any JAG could do it.
Because there is nothing wrong with signing a player past his prime as long as the compensation is in align with what production you expect to get. Sometimes the pats hit and sometimes they don't.
That's simply not true. He's not a bum. For crissakes, at least display a semblance of being fair.
I love the know-it-alls in here who proclaim the team was crazy to sign a washed up veteran before he even plays a down.
Same were saying similar things about Andre Carter..... Tommy may end up like Haynesworth,or he may be more like Andre Carter.
Give him a chance to see what he has left before saying its a wasted roster move.