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You may be right on Ferentz being elevated, but Zappe's on the minimum.
Talk about having those payouts ass-backwards...
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You may be right on Ferentz being elevated, but Zappe's on the minimum.
Mostly because he WASN'T traded. And just what WERE the offers that, again, weren't conjectureAnd you know this, how
Again, my conversations with Bill are PRIVATE. But I have the evidence right at hand. #1 He wasn't traded before the draft because and #2 because he was traded at the deadline. Please show me a deal that was offered for a 1st prior to the draft. You know you can always make one up..... I'll believe you. So will everyone else.Again, how do you know? Did you have convos with Bill?
Really? You know this HOW?????. I've now looked through google on 3 iterations of the search "the logistics of the JG trade to the niners 2017 and not ONE of them say who "started up the conversation"You do know that Bill called San Fran, right? SF didn't call Bill.
Don't presuppose answers like you only have the RIGHT ones. What we do know is that NO one is on record offering a #1 for JG. What we DO know is that JG was of more value to the Pats than he was compared to what they were offered at the draft.You are accusing me of exactly what you are doing. I never said they were offered a #1. I just asked a simple question of Jimmy's worth prior to the draft as opposed to midnight of the trade deadline. I think you know the answer but I know you will keep yacking that I am saying that I am not to try to fit your presupposed narrative
Smug answer that has no meat. Again you definitely COULD have signed Brady for the $25MM/ and he could have played on a thread bar cap strapped team with no offense and little defense, about like what you had in 2000. Yeah, that is what we all wanted to see. THAT would be doing the GOAT a service. Thanks for 20 years of service, but we ran out of gas for your swan song. Yeah, I want YOU building our teams. INSTEAD we axed the franchise tag and wished him best of luck to cherry pick a great offense for himself, even thru in Gronk, no charge. No we REALLY screwed Tommy.How about keep the GOAT QB instead who just delivered the org its 6th ring. Just a thought.
No they don't. Just when things don't turn out like you hoped.. Who knows, maybe the errors and screw ups Mac made last season will be just adversity that will make him more mature and a better QB long term.Good heavens. So throw away an entire season, the most important in Mac's development while he waited for Bob? You really believe this?
Because the guy you WANT long term and wants to be here, just wasn't available in 2022 and you have to figure out something short term. No one worth his salt will come under those conditions so you take a shot on guys you have in house and hope for the best. It isn't likely going to be a championship year anyway.. You hope for at least some progression, and get the opposite. Now you have the guy you wanted all along and a long term succession plan in place.How about just go and spend on a quality OC for the long term instead of literally throwing away a season and a critical year of Mac's development.
And my point was to show he HASN'T. But you think Bill sucks as a coach and GM and all the Pats 20 years of UNPARALLELLED success was done by others.What? The whole point of my posts were how Bill has mishandled the QB position since 2017. Please try to keep up.
The one part of this that makes sense is that he would've had to talk to SF. After all, he would need a QB2 and Hoyer was the best/only plausible option at that point.Really? You know this HOW?????. I've now looked through google on 3 iterations of the search "the logistics of the JG trade to the niners 2017 and not ONE of them say who "started up the conversation"
If Mac goes down our backup is a guy who has never played in an NFL game and just came to our team last week.
Or maybe bill feels with the toughest schedule we are screwed either way if Mac goes down
A player can be elevated (I think) 3 times, but once he's sent back to the squad he is unprotected.
I am *begging* you to look up and see what players actually get in compensation when it comes to draft picks. Your ideas of what players actually get in draft compensation is incredibly warped. A lot of times, letting a player go and getting a 3rd rounder in compensation is *better* than what you could get for a draft pick. For example, arguably, you could have done this with Steph Gilmore but (a) Belichick did the guy a solid and (b) it turns out he wouldn't have gotten a 3rd for FA compensation, due to the nothing contract he signed (because he's washed).You are accusing me of exactly what you are doing. I never said they were offered a #1. I just asked a simple question of Jimmy's worth prior to the draft as opposed to midnight of the trade deadline. I think you know the answer but I know you will keep yacking that I am saying that I am not to try to fit your presupposed narrative.
We actually *do* know the answer to this, and she actually has it completely backwards.Really? You know this HOW?????. I've now looked through google on 3 iterations of the search "the logistics of the JG trade to the niners 2017 and not ONE of them say who "started up the conversation"
During his appearance on the “Pardon My Take” podcast, Lynch confirmed Jay Glazer’s 2017 report that he actually did inquire about Brady before being laughed off the other end of the phone by Bill Belichick.
Via “Pardon My Take”:
PMT: Did you ask for Tom Brady?
Lynch: I’m not supposed to talk about that.
[laughter]
Lynch: Yeah, we were calling about Jimmy, and we did have that conversation and got quickly rebuffed. I figured, ‘You know, what the heck, you’ve got to take your shot, right? You can’t score if you don’t shoot.’ So I had to summon up the courage — and yeah, Bill laughed at me. He basically hung up on me, but hey, I took my shot.
I think two players can be elevated and demoted without being exposed to waivers. I Googled it too and the article was written in August 2023.
That's true, but once back on the squad he's a FA, so that rule mostly protects the player from being forced to play where he doesn't want to go.
The Patriots have no protection, other than there's one less avenue for the player to leave.
Yes but a team can protect up to four players on the practice squad.
I must have missed this. Didn't see that on your link. Could you please provide one?
I think your statement has a lot of merit.I don't know if it was as much of a "regression" as his flaws as a limited QB being exposed for everyone to see. This is the real Zappe, it's who he always was. Like I said earlier this year if he somehow become our starter then something went terribly wrong at the QB position.
Four players can be protected each week, so they can’t be signed by another team off their practice squad.
NFL practice squad, explained: Rules, pay, roster limit, and more
Everything you need to know about your team’s second team.www.google.com
I think it’s 3 or 4 times and he can be protected on the practice squad.
No worries. I assumed you were right!I missed this. So what's the difference between being on the roster and protected on the practice squad?
Apologies to Mike.
I do not need to look up anything. Trading a player prior to the draft vs midnight of the trade deadline is not going to net you the best value. I mean that's football 101.I am *begging* you to look up and see what players actually get in compensation when it comes to draft picks. Your ideas of what players actually get in draft compensation is incredibly warped. A lot of times, letting a player go and getting a 3rd rounder in compensation is *better* than what you could get for a draft pick. For example, arguably, you could have done this with Steph Gilmore but (a) Belichick did the guy a solid and (b) it turns out he wouldn't have gotten a 3rd for FA compensation, due to the nothing contract he signed (because he's washed).
This ^ is simply wrong.Bill has completely mismanaged the QB position since 2017 when he didn't trade Jimmy in March. It has been a clown show ever since ...
Did you just dream up that scenario or do you actually have reports to back up any of that conjecture?This ^ is simply wrong.
They tried to trade Jimmy that offseason, Jimmy was available in trade for months, they announced a first round pick was the compensation they were looking for.
Nobody offered more than what they received at the trade deadline. Nobody wanted to give more for a QB who played one and a half games and got hurt. They decided to pull him off the market a week before the draft and wait to see if someone was desperate at the trade deadline, nobody was so they traded him for the best available offer.
They had Brady in 2017 and beyond... how is that mismanaged?
If you make me provide proof, you're going to look silly. Jimmy was on the open market and available for trade months prior to the draft that season. It was announced by Schefter, Lombardi and Curran that the Pats were looking for a first and a 4th round pick.... nobody made that offer.Did you just dream up that scenario or do you actually have reports to back up any of that conjecture?
Because the beat reporter from Cleveland reported repeatedly that the Browns were willing to offer a #1 for Jimmy that entire offseason.
No. You look silly already ...If you make me provide proof, you're going to look silly.
Okay, you asked for it...No. You look silly already ...